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Earliest 1832

Old Commercial Quay Inn

Latest 1906

16 Commercial Quay

Old Commercial Quay Arms

The Old Commercial Quay is shown above on the left of the picture next to the "Mariner's Arms". Beyond the three-storey house are seen premises, in the course of demolition, which were formerly another licensed house, the London Packet. After three private houses came the large but forbidding-looking Pentside Baptist Church, later used by the Mission to Seamen. The properties shown above were demolished in 1930 for improvement of the quays.

Old Commercial Quay 1860's

IT'S amazing what some people find when taking down old wallpaper, tidying Cupboards, renewing the glass in a picture frame or clearing out the attic This picture of the Old Commercial Quay, facing Wellington Dock, and dating back to the 1860's is just one example of such a find. The picture is embossed with the name of the former Bench Street photographer J. G. Whorwell but is evidently a copy of the original because he simply wasn't in business as early as the 1860's.

Sharp's Commercial Quay public house, on the right of the picture  helps to date the picture as being from about 1861. Richard Sharp was an innkeeper at Commercial Quay in that year. Sandwiched between two and three-storey properties on the left is the single-storey workshop of a ropemaker and dealer in marine stores by the name of Dennis. The three-storey Dutch-style building towards the centre of the picture, similar in appearance to Dover's public library, was evidently very old.

 

This outlet of Leney faced the dock side and possessed a 61 year lease from Dover Harbour Board which had commenced in April 1867. £400 was spent on improvements in 1893 but nevertheless the licence changed hands eighteen times in twenty years up to 1906 so the closure that year would not have surprised anyone.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer, 31 May, 1867.

John Smith Norris, the landlord of the "Commercial Quay" public house, charged with infringing his license, was dismissed on paying the costs.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 14 November, 1873.

LICENSING BUSINESS

George William Pettit applied for permission to sell at the “Old Commercial Quay,” but as it was elicited that the outgoing tenant was dead, and the administration of his affairs had not yet taken place the application was ordered to stand over.

 

 

DOVER EXPRESS first week OCTOBER 1906 reported the following:- Canterbury Sessions decided to close, under the Compensation Act, six Dover pubs including the "William and Albert", "Three Compasses", "Duke of York", The "Wellesley", The "Old Commercial Quay" and the "Half Moon".

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 16 February, 1906. Price 1d.

OBJECTION TO OLD COMMERCIAL QUAY

In this case the tenant, James Gilbert, was unable to attend, and a certificate from Dr. Howden stated that he was recovering from pneumonia, was put in. Mr. Knocker appeared on behalf of the owners, Messrs. Leney and Co. the grounds of the notice were that the license were unnecessary, and that the house had been ill-conducted.

Inspector Fox stated that the license had been transferred to James Gilbert on the 6th October 1905. there had been seven tenants in the last 10½ years, and about 18 changes in the last 20 years. There were five other licensed premises within the immediate vicinity, the furthest being 76 yards away. There had been convictions against the premises in 1879, 1881, 1885, and 1895.

The Chairman said that in regard to previous convictions, it would be better not to press them unless the premises were being conducted in an improper way at the present time.

Mr. Knocker said there had been no conviction within the last six years.

The Chairman said that ground of objection would be withdrawn from the notice.

Mr. Knocker said that under those circumstances he did not propose to address the Magistrates, or to make any objection to the notice.

THE MAGISTRATES DECISION

After a short consultation in private, the Magistrates turned to the Bench. The Chairman said “The following houses will be referred to the Kent Compensation Committee of the Quarter Sessions in due form: The “William and Albert,” The “Three Compasses,” the “Wellesley Inn,” the “Old Commercial Quay,” the “Duke of York,” and the “Half Moon.” The licenses for these houses will run until the time when the compensation is paid, and then the licences will cease. With respect to the “Devonshire Arms” and the “Lord Roberts,” and the “Nottingham Castle,” they will be withdrawn from the list.- These licences will be renewed in the ordinary way.

 

 

Compensation was agreed in October that year and Leney received £850 and the tenant £70. It continued as a private dwelling.

 

LICENSEE LIST

JACKSON W 1832

BARTON John S 1847 (Commercial Quay Inn) Bagshaw's Directory 1847

TAYLOR William 1852 (Commercial Quay Inn)

TAYLOR Matilda1854 (Commercial Quay Inn)

SHARP to Mar/1861 Dover Express

MARKS Mr W Mar/1861+ Dover Express

NORRIS John Smith 1867-70

PETTET George William 1874 Post Office Directory 1874

DYASON Mr dec'd Jan/1874 Dover Express

DYASON Mrs J Jan/1874 end Dover Express

INSKIP William 1875

JOHNSON John 1875

KITTELL John William 1877

LONAN Charles 1877

McIVER Kennett 1878 end

McKAY Daniel 1878 end

MURGATROYD Edward 1879

MACKAY John 1881-82 Post Office Directory 1882

Last pub licensee had COLE George 1883-85 end

Last pub licensee had FAGGETTER Lewis 1885-96 Post Office Directory 1891

MASLEN Henry P 1896-July/1900 Next pub licensee had Kelly's Directory 1899Dover Express

Last pub licensee had COLBREAY George Horace July/1900+ Dover ExpressPost Office Directory 1903

Last pub licensee had DOLBEAR James 1900 Next pub licensee had

COCHRANE William 1900 end (Commercial Quay Inn)

CARLEY Henry 1902 end Post Office Directory 1903

JONES 1902-5 end

JONES W 1902-05 end

GILBERT John 1905-06 end

 

Bagshaw's Directory 1847From Bagshaw Directory 1847

Post Office Directory 1874From the Post Office Directory 1874

Post Office Directory 1882From the Post Office Directory 1882

Post Office Directory 1891From the Post Office Directory 1891

Kelly's Directory 1899From the Kelly's Directory 1899

Post Office Directory 1903From the Post Office Directory 1901

Post Office Directory 1903From the Post Office Directory 1903

Dover ExpressFrom the Dover Express

 

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