9 Clarence Place
Cinque Port Arms date unknown.
Above coloured photos circa 1980 by Barry Smith.
Above photo showing pub in Whitbread's days.
Telegraph sign August 1991.
Above with thanks from Brian Curtis
As an outlet of Walker, previous to 1814, the sign was
"Coach and Horses" and
this name is again listed in Pigot's directory of 1823.
An examination of the beams in the sixties of the twentieth century, led to
the conclusion that the property was over three hundred years old. A pair of
slippers with turned up toes, as worn by the jesters of the day, was
discovered in the brickwork. Further corroboration was provided in January
1982 when internal alterations brought to light a large fireplace or
inglenook of the early sixteenth century. Perhaps also of interest, was the
opinion of the experts at the time that the cellar may well have been part
of a previous building. It certainly shows on Harbour Board maps of 1624 but
it is not possible to confirm its connection with the trade that year.
The thoroughfare itself had been known as King's Head Street but by 1676 it
was referred to as Crane Street or Crane Quay. The houses opposite the pub
were fronted by a quay thirty five feet wide. They were taken down between
1812 and 1814. Some may have survived to 1822. I would not know if it
applied to those particular houses but up to 1812 the leases in that area
were for twenty one years. After that, many were for sixty one years. Prints
do exist, one may still have its place on the wall here, which show boats
moored opposite the inn.
From the Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports General
Advertiser, Saturday 4 May, 1850. Price 5d.
On Monday evening at 7 o'clock, a jury was empanelled at the
"Cinque Ports Arms," at the Pier, before George Thomas Thompson, Esq.,
Coroner for the Borough, on the body of James Diplock, aged 40 years,
one of the men employed in the "diving" department at the Harbour
of Refuge Works, who met his death in the morning of that day by
injuries sustained from falling from an elevated portion of the Works.
On the assembly of the jury Mr. William Parrish was appointed foreman;
and they having been severely sworn, a view of the body took place,
after which the depositions were made:-
James Morris - I am engaged with the diving bells at the New Harbour
Works. I knew the deceased, who was also a diver. This morning, the
deceased, with myself and others, was at the works. We were engaged in
removing some timber on the top of the pier, a and the deceased ascended
to the stage of the "traveller" in order to make a "taught" a
chain which was used to prevent its being put in motion by the wind or
other causes. His accent was in the customary way. Whether his foot
slipped or not I cannot say, but shortly afterwards fell from the stage,
passing by the timber on to the stonework, which was just a few courses
above the foundation. I think he fell from 20 to 30 feet; and I and
others went down directly to pick him up, but before we could do so a
wave washed him from the spot, and he floated on the water, motionless,
from 15 to 20 minutes ere we could get to him. Deceased was then taken
to the engine-house, where Mr. E. Sibbit, surgeon, was already in
attendance, and the usual means of restoration was resorted to, but
without success. The fall was purely accidental.
William Mantle, labourer at the works, corroborated the above
evidence, and stated that restorative means were used by Mr. Sibbit for
upwards of an hour and a half.
No other evidence being required by the jury, the Coroner summed up,
and a verdict to the following effect was afterwards returned:- That the
deceased, James Diplock, was killed by an accidental fall at the works
of the new pier.
The deceased was a married man, and had a family of two children. At
the close of the investigation Mr. W. Wakeley, the pay clerk at the
works, stated that he had instructions from the Messrs. Lee, the
contractors, to discharge on their behalf the expenses attending the
internment of the deceased, and he had no doubt some provision would be
made for the bereaved wife and children.
So to 1859, when the business, yard and stabling was on offer. Its 61 year
lease had commenced in 1834. Either then, or privately afterwards, Leney
would have gained control.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 18
INFRINGEMENT OF LICENSE
Thomas Middleton, the landlord of the "Cinque Port Arms," pleaded
guilty to having his house open at half-past seven o'clock on Sunday
morning, when some travellers were there drinking. Defendant said the
hovellers came to his house to share their money, after having been at
there the whole night, and the Magistrates thought the justice of the
case would be met by a fine of 2s. 6d. and costs, 11s. which he paid.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 19
Charles Jans, a Frenchman, was charged with drunkenness and
disorderly conduct and wilfully breaking a window at the "Cinque Port
Arms Inn," Clarence Place. Mr. Middleton, the landlord of the "Cinque
Port Arms," said he had no desire to press the charge if the prisoner
paid the amount of the damage, and the man having undertaken to do this,
the Bench admonished the defendant, and ordered him to be discharged.
From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer,
20 November, 1868. Price 1d.
James Horn, a boatman, was charged with being drunk and disorderly
and annoying the complainant, Thomas Middleton, in his business. It
appeared that the defendant had gone to the house of the complainant,
the "Cinque Ports Arms," and requested to be served with beer when he
had already had more than enough. The complainant declined to comply,
when he became very violent and wanted to fight. The complainant,
however, called in the police and had him removed.
It appeared that the defendant was very well behaved when sober, and
was the means of supporting an aged mother. The Magistrates, under these
circumstances, took a lenient view of the offence, and discharged him
with a caution.
From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer,
10 June, 1870. Price 1d.
INFRINGEMENT OF LICENSE
Thomas Middleton, landlord of the "Cinque Port Arms," charged with
infringing his license by having customers in his house on Sunday last,
was fined 10s. and costs, 10s. 6d., and cautioned that if he was not
more careful as to the way in which the house was conducted the chances
were that he would lose his license.
From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer, 4 August, 1871. Price 1d.
Henry Horn, charged with being drunk and obstructing Mr. Middleton, of
the “Cinque Ports Arms,” in his business, yesterday, was fined 10s. and
costs; in default seven days’ imprisonment.
From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer, 6 September, 1872. Price 1d.
ANNUAL LICENSING MEETING
APPLICATION FOR EXTENSION OF TIME
Mr. Wollaston Knocker appeared in support of an application made by Mr.
Middleton, landlord of the “Cinque Port Arms,” Clarence Place, for the
extension of the hours during which his house might remain open, under
the 26th section of the Act, which gave the Magistrates power to grant
special licenses for the convenience of markets, theatres, or those
“following any lawing trade or calling.” For ordinary purposes of
refreshment the “Cinque Ports Arms” might be regarded as the nearest
house to the Admiralty Pier, and he need not remind the Magistrates that
a number of persons were in their “lawfull calling” during the night in
connection with the arrival and departure of the trains and packets.
Boats arrived and departed at all hours, and upon the South-Eastern
Railway trains left at 1.40 and 4.45. In attendance upon these packets
and trains were a number of licensed porters and others, and it would
really be a matter of great inconvenience to a numerous class if they
were prevented from obtaining refreshment during the night. He therefore
applied, on behalf of Mr. Middleton, that his house might remain open at
all times except between the hours of 1 and 2 a.m. Mr. Knocker concluded
by handing in a memorial signed by the ticket porters and others
employed during the night who were in the habit of obtaining shelter and
refreshment at the house of the applicant.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 22 May, 1889.
At the Police Court on Monday, William Fitzgerald was charged with
breaking a pane of glass, value £1, at the “Cinque Ports Arms,” Clarence
Place. Stephen Harvey, landlord of the “Cinque Ports Arms,” said the
prisoner came into his house the worse for drink. He asked for beer, but
was refused. He then used abusive language, and refusing to go was put
out. The defendant afterwards put his fist through the glass door and
broke it. The prisoner, who had been previously convicted, was fined
10s., damage £1, and costs 7s., or in default of payment one month’s
Four a.m. opening was allowed here from 1874 and that became three thirty
two years later. Plans for structural alterations were approved in 1921.
Together with its neighbour the
"Rose and Crown" this stood in the midst of
8 vast freight clearing area in the seventies and eighties. 1986 saw the
closure of the Latter and it remained empty and derelict until mid 1988 when
it was repaired and refurbished and became part of the "Cinque Ports Arms".
The original order for the stopping up of part of Clarence Place, Elizabeth
Street and Council House Street was made in October 1968. The demolition of
Beach Street and the flats in Seven Star Street, which was first formed in
1607, was carried out in 1975.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 16 December, 1910
REFRESHMENT LICENCE FOR CHRISTMAS LETTER SORTERS
Mr. Hyde, licensee of the "Cinque Port Arms," Clarence Place, applied
for permission to be open from 12.30 a.m. to 3 a.m. on the nights of 23rd
and 24th December, for the purpose of supplying refreshments to the Post
Office staff engaged in sorting at the Town Station, the number of
Christmas letters, etc. making a heavy increase in the work.
It was stated similar permission was given last year, and the
application was again granted.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 6
October, 1922. Price 1½d.
An extension was granted to the "Cinque Ports" R.E. Club for a whist
drive on Friday.
From the Dover Express 20 December 2007 by Yamurai Zendera
'Del Boy' not happy unless behind a bar.
A JOVIAL pub landlord described as a real-life
"Del Boy" has died.
Roger Paul Greaves, 66, who for the past 15 years
ran the Cinque Port Arms in Clarence Place, passed away in hospital on
Monday, December 10.
Mr Greaves' daughter-in-law Tracey, who is married
to his only child Steve, 39, paid tribute to a "real character".
Medical secretary Mrs
Greaves, also 39, said: "His claim to fame was selling a poppy to a
German - that was the sort of person he was.
"Then there was the time
they'd knocked down one of the walls in the pub to renovate it, and he
sold the rubble to American tourists off the cruise liners by telling
them it was chalk from the White Cliffs of Dover.
"He was a real
character, a wheeler dealer like Del Boy you could say."
mother-of-two added: "He was a real family man who will be sorely
"The night before he died he told his business partners if there
was ever a time he could not do his job, he didn't want to live. He was
not happy unless he was behind the bar."
Avid Arsenal fan Mr Greaves was
born in Suffolk on April 20 1941 and had two sisters.
The family moved
to East Anglia from Dover during the Second World War and returned when
he was five.
He attended Barton Road
School before starting at the Dover Engineering Works. He then had a
short stint in the building trade and later worked on cross-Channel
ferries before taking over the Cinque Port Arms with two business
partners in 1992.
Mr Greaves' funeral took take place at Barham
Crematorium on Friday 21 Dec 2007 at 2.40 pm.
From the Dover Mercury, 17 September, 2009.
Docks historic pub saved from fire.
By Beth Easton.
DOZENS of fire-fighters from across Kent battled to stop a fierce fire
spreading at a historic pub in Dover's western Docks.
Six fire engines
were called to tackle the flames at the Cinque Port Arms, which is almost
400 years old, on Friday evening.
Landlord Michael Milburn has praised
crews for saving the pub after the blaze broke out in a separate porch at
"It has totally destroyed the back part or the building but we're on
top of it," be said.
"Luckily the wind was blowing away from us so that
saved us and stopped the pub filling with smoke.
"It's business as usual
but it's going to need a lot of alterations.
"Thanks go to the fire service for getting it under control."
The pub was
busy at the time the fire broke out, and customers and staff were
evacuated from the three-storey building along with those from the nearby Customs office.
The landlord, who lives above the bar, along with a number
of staff, could not satisfy fire officers there were adequate means of
escape for those living there.
He has been served with a prohibition order to ensure he improves safety
The landlord said: "It was lucky it was early evening when it
Kent Fire and Rescue spokes-woman Faye Kavvadias said the fire
was thought to be an accident, with sparks from smoking materials causing
"Ninety per cent of the building adjacent to the pub was
destroyed and 10 per cent of the main building was affected.
fought really hard to prevent the fire spreading to the main building."
7.45pm, the operation was scaled down.
Police were at the scene for traffic
Crews left two hours later but attended again at 2.45am to check
it had not reignited.
From the Dover Express, 17 September, 2009.
Cigarette end blaze damages pub
Above photo by Alistair Brenchley.
A CARELESSLY discarded cigarette is believed to have caused the fire which
destroyed a Dover pub on Friday (September 11).
Kent Fire and Rescue Service was alerted to the blaze at the Cinque Port
Arms in Clarence Place at 6.41pm.
At the height of the fire, five engines
and a height vehicle were called to the scene to stop the flames
The blaze is believed to have started in one of the pub's outbuildings and
is not being treated as suspicious.
Customers were evacuated from the premises.
Ten per cent of the pub, which
included the back porch, toilet roof and some window frames, were
destroyed by the fire.
A Kent Fire and Rescue Service spokesman said: "The fire-fighters worked
really hard to bring the fire under control and ensure it did not cause
even more damage than it did."
From the Dover Express, 17 September, 2009.
PAIR PLAN TO CHANGE PUB'S BAD REPUTATION
After big refurbishment The Cinque Port Arms reopens
Report by Yamurai Zendera
THE new leaseholders of The "Cinque Port Arms" in Dover plan to make
its bad reputation a thing of the past.
Couple Andy Snelgrove and Kat Beaty have spent the last six weeks
renovating the pub situated at the Western Docks in order to reinvent it
as a family friendly venue offering food and drink and a place to sleep.
The 29-year-old Kat said: "About 20 years ago when it first started it
was very successful, very busy.
Just in the last six years it went downhill. It was more known as a
drugs house after hours. But we have clamped down on that and we have no
tolerance for drugs.
"It's going to be changed back to having a good reputation for good
food and drink and clean bed-and-breakfast accommodation and rooms to let.
A place where families with young children are welcome."
Kat and Andy 61, had a massive refurbishment job on their hands when
they began but Kat said it was their dream to run their own pub since
getting together two years ago.
She said: "We wanted to work together and spend more time with each
"The opportunity came up and we took it.
"I used to work with my brother in a restaurant near Brighton and Andy
was a truck driver but he's had previous experience of owning pubs on and
off for the last 20 years."
The couple, who met in Dover through a mutual friend, believe they can
succeed where many other pubs have failed since the smoking ban came into
Kat said: "I think we can make a good go of it and get it up again. We
want to push the food sales. There are a steady stream of customers like
builders, truckers, the customs officers and cruise terminal users."
The couple expect to complete refurbishment work next month, although
the pub is already open for business.
From the Dover Express, Thursday 13 January 2011.
From the Dover Express, Thursday, 10 November, 2011. 60p
PUB TO DONATE TO LEGION
A pub has announced it is to donate part of its Sunday lunch profits
to the Royal British Legion.
The "Cinque Port Arms" in the western Docks is putting on a
Remembrance Sunday dinner from midday to 4pm on November 13.
The three-course meal includes a glass of wine and is priced at
The pub is giving 20 per cent of its profits as a donation.
From the Dover Express, Thursday, 1 December, 2011. 60p
PUB GHOST BOOK'S GOT SPIRITS GALORE
Author finds histories of haunted boozers
Report by Mike Sims
FROM tales of a man killed in a pub and thrown down a well to details of
the ghostly Lydd pub previously owned by a man called Lepper, a new book
about haunted watering holes features ten across Shepway and Dover.
Donald Stuart, the Journalist turned author who has completed Haunted
English Pubs 2011, visited more than 1,000 towns and villages including
Sandgate, Elham, Lydd, Hythe, Dover, Deal and Aldington and discovered
haunted yarns galore.
Mc Stuart, who is a member of the Ghost Club, said: "With many of
England's ancient pubs disappearing, this is a timely account of some of
their paranormal associations."
Tales include the Fish Lady at the "Ship Inn" In Sandgate, a woman who
appears reeking of fish, and a solider in Victorian uniform In the same
The "Bell Inn" in Hythe has a
'grey lady' who died during childbirth haunting its cellars. The "George
Hotel" in Lydd has the ghost of young officer John McKenzie who was
killed in a battle between smugglers and revenue men and the "King's Head"
in Deal is haunted by a man wearing cricket clothes, according to the
Mr Stuart, 76, said: "I have
not set out to prove or disprove the existence of such claims. I have
merely recorded what has been reported in myth and legend over the
Other accounts in the book include locked and bolted doors bursting open
in the "King's Head" in Hythe, several phantom children in Victorian dress
gracing the "Walnut Tree"
in Aldington and a haunting comedian in the "Cinque Port Arms" in
Dover - the only pub in England to have the ghost of a comic.
JELL Henry 1791 (Clarence Place)
ATKINS 1805 (Clarence Place) This name also appears
at the "Black Pig" the same year.
1823 called Coach and Horses
EASTES R 1828-30
KEMP James C 1832-39+
ROBINSON Jacob 1840+
DENNIS Ann 1847
BRACKENBURY W P 1848
OAKENFUL Henry 1851
FLETCHER Richard Thomas 1858-59+
FLETCHER Sarah Elizabeth 1862 end
MIDDLETON Thomas 1862-78
KNIGHT John Frederick Mar/1877+
HARVEY Stephen 1882-91+
KINGSMILL Richard 1895-1903+
HYDE J 1907-Aug/11
SHINGLETON William Albert Aug/1911-20
HARRIS Arthur Herbert 1920-24+
HOBBS Herbert Edward 1926-Aug/27
BRITTON Mrs Harriet 1930-32 end
GLADDEN Henry Edward 1932-Jan/33
WOOD George Parks Jan/1933-Dec/33 (Clerk of Messrs. Fremlin bros, Ltd)
HOGG James Percy Dec/1933+
WICKS W T 1937-40
HICKS William Thomas 1937-June/40
HOVER James William June/1940
GROUNDS William Arthur 1940
CLAYTON Arthur Blake 1948-51 end
BRILL Edward George 1951-60 dec'd
BRILL Mrs Elizabeth E 1960-74 end
FULLER Harold 1974-80
McHUGH Dominique 1980-90 end
GREAVES Roger Paul 1992-2007 (dec 10 Dec 2007)
MILBURN Michael 2008-09 (Closed for short period)
SNELGROVE Andy & BEATY Kat July-2010+
James William Hover in 1940 of 31, Leyburne Road, Dover, was brewer's
From Batchellor's New Dover Guide 1828
From the Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34
From the Pigot's Directory 1839
From the Pigot's Directory 1840
From Bagshaw Directory 1847
From Melville's Directory 1858
From the Post Office Directory 1874
From the Post Office Directory 1882
From the Post Office Directory 1891
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1895
From the Kelly's Directory 1899
From the Post Office Directory 1901
From the Post Office Directory 1903
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1909
From the Post Office Directory 1913
From the Post Office Directory 1922
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1923
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1924
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1932-33
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1938-39
From the Kelly's Directory 1950
From the Kelly's Directory 1953
From the Kelly's Directory 1956
Library archives 1974
From the Dover Express