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60 Folkestone Road before 1913  also
121 Folkestone Road
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From an article in the Dover Mercury 27 January 2000 by Joe Harman.
THIS photograph of Folkestone Road appears to have been taken about
1865.
The building on the left is obviously The Engineer public house, which
was there according to the census of 1871.
The one over to the left is almost certainly Laburnham Cottage as this
shows up on a map of 1859 with Sultrana Villa beyond it.
The latter is now the Mildmay Hotel and this was built for Mr Rowland
Rees as well as Canton Villa, which is linked with his former service as an
architect in Hong Kong.
He was the surveyor for the Dover Harbour Board and later became Mayor of
Dover.
Looking at the picture, closely, you can see the outline of Westmount,
which was built in 1865 by Philip Stiff. At a later date, Beaumont Terrace
was built where the white railings are pictured.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer,
31 October, 1879. Price 1d.
CLARENDON STREET
To the Editor of the Dover Express.
Sir, - it is high time something was done to improve the approach to
this street by way of the "Engineer" public-house. At present it is
inaccessible after a shower of rain by foot passengers having regard for
a clean appearance, while as for getting a perambulator into the
Folkestone Road it is quite out of the question. The street itself is
nearly as bad. Notwithstanding the heavy wear to which the road has been
subjected during the last year or two, I believe I am correct in stating
that nothing has ever been done to it in the way of repairs, and the
impression is that nothing will be done until the street is completed.
As this cannot be for many months to come, residents are beginning to
contemplate whether with considerable dismay the prospect before them
when the winter has finally set in.
Being of opinion that this is the state of things which ought not to
exist in relation to a thoroughfare used by some hundreds of
inhabitants, is the apology for troubling you - or your obedient
servant,
A SUFFERER.
Dover, October 1879.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer,
21 November, 1879. Price 1d.
CLARENDON STREET
To the Editor of the Dover Express.
Dear Sir, - With your indulgence I beg again to direct attention to
the dreadful condition of the approach to this street. It is not only
inaccessible with any degree of comfort, but is absolutely
dangerous at night, the deep ruts and the absence of any lamp making it
difficult to get a safe footing. Whether the buildings in connection
with the road are to be finished within a month or within a year, the
present convenience of the inhabitants ought no longer be ignored.
By and bye someone may slip down and break a limb, and then everyone
will be asking why the road is not allowed to remain in so a dangerous
condition.
is it because the population of the Clarendon Estate do not belong to
the "Upper Pen?"
Thanking you for the favour of publication,
I remain, dear sir,
Your obedient servant,
A SUFFERER.
Dover, November, 1879.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer,
12 December, 1879. Price 1d.
CLARENDON STREET
To the Editor of the Dover Express.
Dear Sir, - Will you kindly allow me one more trespass upon your
indulgences with the object of representing another very real grievance
which the residents of this street have to prefer; and not the resident
only, but every person having business or other connections with the
street. It regards the numbering of the houses. It seems that instead of
being number consecutively from the buildings first erected, several
batches of houses are numbered according to the whim of the owners, and
thus we have a chaos of numbers which - like Milton's excess of light -
serve rather to obscure than to guide. If this indiscriminate numbering
were intended as a mere exhibition of artistic confusion, it might be
allowed to pass without any comment save that suggested by its obvious
merits; but I wish to point out that it involves a grave inconvenience.
People are continually calling at the wrong houses, giving the occupants
and themselves a vast deal of unnecessary trouble. At night the evil is
aggravated by the absence of lamps, and the heaps of rubbish and other
obstructions in the newer half of the street.
It is indeed increasingly evident that the interests of this street
have been grossly neglected; or more accurately the interests of the
people who have been obliged to choose a residence in it. I say obliged,
because it is a great hardship for a great many, having their employment
at the Pier District, to reside there at all; but a hardship which I do
not see how it is possible to obviate, unless it were considered more
benevolent to utilize the meadow near Archliff Fort for cottage building
than as a recreation ground.
The origin of the evil rests with the Council, inasmuch as it allowed
the railway companies to eject inhabitants from the Pier District,
before adequate provision had been made for them in some other part of
the town. How is it is so obvious a difficulty was not anticipated, and
properly met? Is the Council aware that people have been allowed to
occupy houses in this street which were minus doors, windows, water
closets, and in one instance even a fire grate? yet such which I am told
is a fact.
But it is useless to dwell upon the past, except in as far as it
seems necessary to bring home responsibility to those with whom it
rests. The thing is, to make reparation for the injury that has been
inflicted, and this I imagine the Council can best do by playing a
close attention to the interests of the street, now and in the future.
I remain, dear sir,
With many thanks,
Your obedient servant,
A Edwards.
Clarendon Street, Dover, 1879.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer,
16 January, 1880. Price 1d.
CLARENDON STREET
To the Editor of the Dover Express.
Sir, - Anyone would hardly infer from the Town Clerk's language
describing the roadway leading from the "Engineer" public-house, as "an
old foot-path that might be temporarily repaired," that this same
roadway is the natural and convenient approach to Clarendon Street, yet
such is the fact that it ought to have been distinctly stated , so that
the public might not be mislead, and possibly put to inconvenience.
The approach by way of Selbourne Terrace involves a circuitous walk
over a rough road of at least fifty yards, further, and is, indeed,
impracticable for horses.
I am, sir,
Your obedient servant.
A. E.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer,
16 April, 1880. Price 1d.
CLARENDON STREET
To the Editor of the Dover Express.
Sir, - Now that the din of the electioneering is hushed, local
matters may command attention.
Since, thanks to your interest, the neglected condition of Clarendon
Estate was made public, the paths in Clarendon Street have been paved,
and the road partially made. This is a genuine benefit for which I, for
one, am extremely grateful; but unfortunately its value is in a great
measure discounted by the circumstance that the approach to the street
remains as it was - a rough road at the best of times, and in bad
weather slimy, miry, and absolutely dangerous.
A good pavement is in itself an inestimable boon, but if you have to
wade through fifty yards of mud and slush to reach it, the advantage is
not very apparent.
There is no excuse for further delay, as the builders' carts have
long since been diverted to the other end of the street; the word of
authority alone is wanted to perfect a benefit at present grotesquely
incomplete.
I am, Sir, your obedient servant,
A. E.
Clarendon Street,
Dover, April 15, 1880.
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OUTING: An all-male outing from The Engineer corner pub in Folkestone Road |
On the corner with Malvern Road, the number was once sixty. That part of
the road formed about 1870 and during the present century various terraces
have been incorporated into the numbering of the road. The bar portion, like
the "Imperial Crown" has the appearance of a single storey extension made at
some time. Rumour does have it though that the cellar here is enormous by
comparison.
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All set for a day's outing - to the races perhaps -
about 1912. Note the solid tyres and the gun carriage type
wheels of the two open-top charabancs, one of them a Pullman, for this
all-male party. One child also posed for the picture, sitting on grandad's knee on the front seat. The buses are pictured outside the
Engineer Inn, of which the men were presumably customers.
Standing on
the corner of Folkestone Road and Malvern Road, the Engineer was one of
many local public houses which used to sell the beers produced at
Leney's old brewery, between Castle Street and Townwall
Street.
Information taken from John Bavington Jones' book "A Perambulation of
the Town, Port and Fortress of Dover", 1906. (Reprint in The South
Kent Gazette, 12th November, 1980.) |
An outlet of Leney which passed to Whitbread.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 4
February, 1938
ENGINEER BUS SIGN
Councillor Gates said that some months ago the bus stop sign outside
the "Engineer" was knocked down by a motor-car and since then it had
been lying in the yard of the Christ Church Mission hall. He did not
know whether the Surveyor had had any official information that the sign
had been knocked down.
The Surveyor said he did not know anything about it .He did not know
whether there was any special reason why it was not replaced. He would
look into it.
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Above the Engineer circa 1980 (Photo by Barry Smith).
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Above Engineer circa 1987 (Photo by Paul Skelton)
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From the Adscene 28 November 1996.
TWO heady nights of live music will hail the grand opening of the
new-look Engineer.
The popular Dover pub becomes bigger and better, with
a £53,000 facelift including a 40 per cent bigger bar area.
Kicking off
the opening celebrations tomorrow night (29 November) will be the
popular Traf Blues Band. On the following nights it's the turn of
talented soloist Mark Landon, who has regularly entertained passengers
on board Stena Line ferries.
Throughout that evening all pints of
draught beer are £1.50 and large main-line spirits,
such as vodka and whisky, are charged at a knock-down £1.80.
The Pubmaster-owned premises will see in the New Year 1997 with music from
Pepperfish, a lively band whose cover versions include Oasis and REM
material.
The new era for The Engineer will also shortly usher in a full menu of
tasty meals, including pub lunches and bar snacks.
The extra space will also mean a larger pool table, which is free daily
until 6pm.
Even without all this you will see a transformation, with the building's
sparkling new internal and external decor.
The Victorian-built pub, on the
corner of Folkestone Road and Malvern Road, was able to stay open while
refurbishment was carried out, with the work area screened off. It is a
long-established cornerstone for the Clarendon and Priory communities,
but is by no means a closed shop.
It also welcomes passing trade and has a multi-national edge through
foreign tourists from nearby bed and breakfast hotels dropping in.
Germans, Dutch, Swiss, Americans and
Japanese have all come in to enjoy an evening pint and the friendly
atmosphere of The Engineer.
The pub's landlord is Glen Virtue, who took over in March 1995 after
eight years' experience running the nearby Alma.
Mr. Virtue has also bought the Trident Guest House, at the corner of
St. John's Road and Folkestone Road, and will rename it The Engineer Guest
House at the end of the year.
The Engineer is open 11am to 11pm Monday to Saturday and noon
to 10.30pm Sunday.
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From the Dover Express, August, 1999
POLICE officers were called to Folkestone Road to prevent an
outbreak of violence as a group of around 40 asylum seekers laid siege
to The Engineer pub.
Cops were called in after residents feared a pitched battle in the
streets after an assault on a 21-year-old immigrant earlier.
Officers with dogs sealed off the road while the crowd was calmed and
four people were arrested.
The landlord of the pub, who was hosting a party to celebrate his
first anniversary in charge of the business, later said he had not been
aware of the trouble brewing outside until police had burst in.
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Photos by Paul Skelton 19 June 2008.
Top photo is of the frontage coming down.
Bottom photo shows building work in the garden over the skittle alley
where the pear tree used to be. |
Closed (April 2007).
Above photo appeared in the Kent online newspaper, November 2009 and was
an advert for Geering and Colyer stating; "Newly converted flats, two
bedrooms, rear garden, fitted kitchen, £99,950."
No mention of their very spacious beer cellar though. |
LICENSEE LIST
TAMS James 1872-84+
 
HEMMINGS Charles 1891

KOHLHAMMER John 1895-99+
 
BUCKINGHAM Frederick to Dec/1903
 
QUESTED Edward William Dec/1903-Jan/07

SARJEANT Harry Jan/1907-Mar/12
(Formerly telegraph engineer)

SPRATT William Mar/1912-27 end
    
PEIRCE Charles 1927-40 dec'd
   
PEIRCE Miss Ethel Mildred (Minnie) (daughter) June/1940-48
 
JAYNES Charles (Wag) 1948-49 end
PEIRCE Charles A H 1949-66+
  
GILCHRIST Mrs Joan 1969-73
GILCHRIST Malcomb M 1974-79 dec'd
Whitbread Fremlins
GILCHRIST Mrs Joan 1980
FULLER Harold 1980-92 end
GRANT Neil & Peggy 1992
VIRTUE Glenn March 1995
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the Post Office Directory 1874
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the Post Office Directory 1882
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the Post Office Directory 1891
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1895
From the Kelly's Directory 1899
From the Post Office Directory 1901
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the Post Office Directory 1903
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the Post Office Directory 1913
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the Post Office Directory 1922
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1923
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1924
From the Post Office Directory 1930
From the Post Office Directory 1938
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1932-33
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1938-39
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1948-49
From the Kelly's Directory 1950
From the Kelly's Directory 1953
From the Kelly's Directory 1956
Library archives 1974
From the Dover Express
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