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From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer, 6 September, 1872. Price 1d.

ANNUAL LICENSING MEETING

The annual meeting of the Dover Magistrates under the Licensing Act of last season for the purpose of renewing ale-house and beer-house licenses was held on Monday last in the Sessions House, the Mayor (R. Dickeson, Esq.,) presiding, and the following Magistrates being also present: S. M. Latham, Esq., J. G. Smith, Esq., S. Finnis, Esq., Dr. Astley, T. E. Brook, Esq., and W. R. Mowll, Esq.

ALE HOUSE LICENSES

Mr. Stillwell said that before he read the list of these licenses he would state an alteration it was intended to make in the course of procedure. Instead of the licenses being brought to the applicants for renewal, as heretofore, it had been arranged that the licensees, as their names were called, should pass into the Grand Jury Room, where a couple of his (Mr. Stillwell's) clerks would be in attendance, and would hand them their respective licenses, after they had given the names of the owners of their houses, it being necessary under the new Act that the name of the owner of the house, as well as the name of the person licensed, should be endorsed upon the license. The Magistrates wished him to mention another matter, viz., that for the future it would not be necessary for an applicant for renewal of license to attend personally. It would be necessary, however, notwithstanding that provision, that some one would be present to make the application, as otherwise the license would not be renewed. He mentioned this to prevent any person being put to the trouble of going to Broadstairs to get their license renewed simply because they had misread the section of the Act of Parliament.

It being found that the approaches to the Grand Jury Room were so crowded that it would be very inconvenient for the proposed arrangements to be carried out there, a table was provided in the outer hall, and as the names of the applicants for renewal were called and responded to they left the Court and received their licenses in the manner indicated.

There were no objections on the part of the Police to the renewal of any of the licenses; and very little of public interest transpired in this part of the proceedings. A six days' licence was granted to Mr. Lewis Adams for his restaurant in Snargate Street.

The beer-house licenses were all renewed, without objection.

PERMISSION TO SELL SPIRITS OFF THE PREMISES

Licenses to sell spirits and liqueurs off the premises under the provisions of the 69th section of the Act were granted to the following applicants:- Mr. W. Pell, grocer, Snargate Street; Mr. George Page, grocer, Bench Street, Mr. F. W. Mowll, wine and spirit merchant, Strond Street; Mr. E. Thiselton, grocer, bench Street; Mr. W. Binfield, grocer, Last Lane; Mr. G. C. Rubic, grocer, Biggin Street; Messrs. P. S. and S. Court, wine and spirit merchants, Snargate Street; Messrs. J and W. Lukey, wine and spirit merchants, Bench Street; Mr. E. Wooton, grocer, 14, Trinity Square, Margate; and Mr. E. Richardson, grocer, Biggin Street.

REFRESHMENT HOUSE LICENSES

Mr. B. A. Igglesden, confectioner, of Market Square, applied to sell wine on the premises.

Mr. W. Mowll appeared in support of the application, and Mr. Fox, on behalf of Mr. C. Pain, of the “Fountain Hotel,” and other licensed victuallers' carrying on business in the neighbourhood, opposed.

The necessary notices having been proved by Mr. E. Coleman.

Mr. Mowll said that it would not be requisite for him to take up the time of the Bench for many minutes in support of the application. Mr. Igglesden was well known to their worships. As they were aware, he carried on business of a confectioner; and he asked for this license in order that persons frequenting his shop might, if they felt so disposed, take a glass of wine with their bun or tart.

Mr. Fox said he opposed the application on behalf of the persons he had mentioned on the ground that such a license was not necessary for the conduct of Mr. Igglesden's business. He had not a word to say against the fitness of Mr. Igglesden to hold such a license; but he did not think that because he sold pastry he should necessarily sell wine. If his customers, after eating their pastry, desired anything to drink, there were a number of houses within a very few yards of Mr. Igglesden's shop – the “Fountain,” the “Antwerp,” the “Garrick's Head,” and others. From the recent policy of the Legislature the Bench would gather that it was desired to restrict instead of to increase licenses houses; and one of the clauses of the last Act provided that after this year no house below a certain value should receive a license. On these grounds he urged their worships not to grant the application.

Mr. Mowll said he did not know whether he was entitled to reply; but he would just ask the Bench if it was likely Mr. Igglesden's customers would buy pastry in his shop, and then adjourn to the “Garrick's Head.” (Laughter.)

The Bench granted the application

Mr. Cullen Marsh made application for a refreshment license for the Royal Baths. He reminded the Bench that one of the rooms facing the sea, frequented by visitors as a reading room, had been also used as a refreshment room, and wine sold, last season, under the direction of the manager of the “Imperial Hotel.” The hotel was now closed; but visitors still needed refreshment, and complained much of the inconvenience of being unable to obtain it. His object, therefore, was to establish a refreshment counter similar to that which existed last year, and which, as he pointed out, was a source of great convenience to visitors.

Mr. Fox, in opposing the application, on behalf of Mr. Todd, a licensed victualler, carrying on business in Townwall Street, and on behalf of other licensed victuallers in the same neighbourhood, said that the selling of wine under the license of the “Imperial” was an irregularity, and could not be urged as a president. He disputed the necessity of a wine license in this case on the same grounds he had urged in the last, and not at all from any hostility to the applicant. He would also point out that it had been against the policy of the Bench to grant any licenses whatever to premises on the seafront, and he thought that if they departed from this salutary rule great inconvenience might ultimately perhaps be experienced.

The Magistrates granted the application.

POWERS OF JUSTICES UNDER THE NEW ACT

Mr. Boys said he had been requested by the Magistrates of Margate to ask a question with respect to the power of justices under the new Licensing Act as to the closing of public houses; and he had no doubt he should obtain a satisfactory answer. He found that under the Act 21 days' notice must be given of any alteration of the hours of closing. Mr. Hammond, one of the Margate Magistrates had brought under the notice of the Bench that, while the houses under the jurisdiction of the Margate Magistrates were closed at 11, those in the liberties, under the jurisdiction of the Dover Bench were not closed till half past. So that in reality about forty or fifty houses in close proximity in the borough of Margate did not close till half-past eleven. Mr. Hammond at the same time pointed out that no notice had been given.

Mr. Stillwell said that he did not understand from the Act that any notice was required in fixing the hours; but only for the alteration of time after it had once been fixed. The Act gave the Magistrates power to order the houses to be closed at the hours specified under the Act or at other times within certain limits, and this part of the section was silent as to notice. In the event of the hours now fixed being altered, notice would of course have to be given; but in fixing the hours he did not think notice necessary, and that, he believed, was the construction put upon the section in most parts of the kingdom.

Mr. Boys said he had made the enquiry merely at the suggestion of the Magistrates, and was much obliged by the reply.

Mr. Prall said the Magistrates at Rochester had thought it necessary to give notice.

Mr. Stillwell repeated that, at most places in the kingdom, the construction he had mentioned had been put upon the Act.

APPLICATION FOR EXTENSION OF TIME

Mr. Fox made a like application on behalf of the “Princess Maud,” Hawkesbury Street; the “Brussels Inn,” Beach Street; and the “Terminus Inn,” Beach Street. Mrs. Ainsley was called in respect to the last application, and said she had been in the habit of keeping her house open all night for the accommodation of travellers arriving by the packets from Ostend to Calais. The house was also frequented by those employed about the Admiralty Pier and the railway station. Mr. Fox also applied on behalf of the landlord of the “Liberty,” Adrian Street, for permission to open at 4, instead of at 5, as it had been the practice of this house to supply workmen with coffee, and other refreshments early in the morning.

An application was made by Mr. Claris, on behalf of Mr. Nutt, of the “Apollonian Hall,” to keep open at all times except between the hours of one and two a.m. balls were constantly given at the “Apollonian Hall,” and it would be exceedingly inconvenient to those attending them if they were prohibited from taking any refreshment after half-past eleven.

Mr. Benjamin Browning, proprietor of the “Clarence Music Hall,” Snargate Street, made application to keep open his house till 12 o'clock on week days, at the same time stating that he did not open at all on Sundays.

Mr. Sims, landlord of the “Ship Inn,” Strond Street, applied for permission to open at 4 a.m. on week days for the accommodation of passengers.

Mr. Baker, of the “Duchess of Kent,” Market Square, applied for permission to open at 4 o'clock a.m., for the accommodation of persons attending the market and others.

Mr. Bushell, of the “Garrick's Head,” Market Square, made a similar application on the like grounds.

Application was made by Mr. White, of the “Pier Inn,” Beach Street, and by Mr. W. Prescott, of the “Folkestone Cutter,” Great Street, to keep open at all hours except between one and two.

Mr. W. Drake, of the “Pavilion Inn,” Custom House Quay, made application to open at 4 a.m. and remain open till 12 p.m.

Mr. Tams, Landlord of the “Engineer,” Folkestone Road, made an application to remain open till 12, for the convenience of the officials, connected with the Priory railway station.

Mrs. Paramour, of the “Alma Inn,” Folkestone Road, applied for her house to remain open till eleven on Sundays, for the convenience of persons arriving by the train shortly after 10 needing refreshment.

This comprised the applications under this division, but Mr. Fox said that he was instructed by the Dover Licensed Victuallers' Association to make a special application to the Bench, viz., that they would take into their consideration the propriety of extending the hour of closing generally on Sunday evenings until 11 o'clock. Much inconvenience had been caused in Dover by the regulation in this respect, and he should be prepared to show, if the Magistrates would give the necessary notice of their intention to take his application into their consideration, that much inconvenience was caused to persons arriving by train and others from their inability to obtain refreshment after ten.

The Magistrates then retired, and after an absence of about three quarters of an hour returned into Court, when the Mayor delivered the following decision:-

We have most carefully considered the applications made to us today, not only with respect to the new licenses, but also as to the alteration in the hours of closing and opening various houses. I will first state the decisions the Magistrates have come to with respect to the applications for new licenses. Four have been made today – namely, Mr. Brazier, for the Maxton Estate; Mr. Cessford for 18, Esplanade; Mr. Albert, for a house in Snargate Street; and Mr. Joyce, for the transfer of the “Rose and Shamrock,” to the “Burlington,” and the Magistrates have decided upon refusing the whole of these licenses. With respect to the extension of time for the hours of closing and opening public-houses, various applications have been made, and I mat state that, although they vary considerably in regard to the time asked, the Magistrates have come to one decision upon the whole of them. I am now speaking with regard to the closure at night, and the bench have resolved not to extend the hours of closing in any single case. With reference to the hours for opening in the morning, several applications have been made to alter the present hours; for instance, Mr. Middleton has asked that his house may be opened from 2 a.m., but the Magistrates have determined to fix the hour at 4 o'clock a.m. The same applied to Mrs. Goodbun's case, who made a similar application. Mr. Young's (of the “Princess Maud”) application is granted. Mr. Bromley, of the “Liberty”” also asked to open at four, and his application is granted for week days only. The application of Mrs. Hussey of the “Brussels Inn,” is refused. The application of Mrs. Ainsley, of the “Terminus Inn,” who asks to be always open except between the hours of one and two in the morning, is also refused, but she can open at four o'clock in the morning on week days only. The application of Mr. Nutt, of the “Apollonian,” is refused. The application of Mr. Browning of the “Clarence Saloon,” is refused. The application of Mr. Sims, of the “Ship,” who asks to open at four in the morning on week days only, id granted. Mr. Maker's application is granted, as also is Mr. Bushell's, of the “Garrick's Head,” viz., to open at four a.m. on week days only. Mr. White, of the “Pier Inn,” Beach Street, made an application to close at one a.m. and open at three a.m. His application is refused, but he may open at four a.m. He must, however, close at the usual hour. The application of Mr. Prescott, of the “Folkestone Cutter,” is refused, but permission will be granted to him to open at four a.m. The application of the “Engineer,” on the Folkestone Road to keep open till twelve p.m., is refused; as also is the application of Mrs. Paramour, of the “Alma,” Folkestone Road, to keep open till eleven on Sundays. I have, I think, stated all the cases, and in conclusion will only state that the present special exemptions in favour of travellers is still in existence under the new Act as it was under the old one.

Mr. Claris said the refusal of Mr. Nutt's application would be very inconvenient to him, as in the case of balls, it would be impossible to carry them on as usual, if all opportunity of obtaining refreshment after half-past eleven was prevented.

Mr. Stillwell said that, in each case, Mr. Nutt could make a special application before any two justices, who would have the power to accede to it.

Mr. Claris: And do you understand that such an application has to be made every time a ball is held.

Mr. Stillwell thought that was the meaning of the Act.

Mr. Claris: If you understand the Act, it's more than I can. (A laugh.)

A Licensed Victualler, from the body of the Court, enquired whether the provision of the Act were to be applied strictly to hotels as well as to other licensed houses.

The Mayor: Certainly.

Mr. Fox, in respect to his application for a consideration of the hours of closing on Sunday evenings, said that, on further consideration, his clients had resolved to see how the Act worked for a twelvemonth before asking the Bench to make any alteration.

The Magistrates thought this was a very wise decision.

The proceedings then terminated.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer, 13 September, 1872. Price 1d.

PUBLIC HOUSES IN EAST KENT

“Brewster Day” for the Home division of the county came off on Saturday. There were 101 ale-houses licenses to sell spirits, &c., and 38 beer houses, 18 of which are to sell beer by retail to be consumed on the premises and 20 not to be consumed on the premises. Supt. Walker mentioned to the Bench, prior to the commencement of the actual business, that this was the 21st year of his standing in his official capacity of the annual licensing meeting, and that this was the only year during that long period in which no conviction for offences by publicans had been reported. Indeed, throughout the licensing year of 1871-2, not even a summons against a publican had been issued for infringing the law. The Chairman of the Magistrates expressed, on behalf of himself and brother Magistrates, their satisfaction at the statement, and proceeded to mention to the assemble of publicans that the law bearing on selling adulterated liquors was very severe, and would, in all cases, be strictly enforced. Several applications were made by alehouse keepers for the extension of time permitted by the Act, but the Bench decided that as it was their opinion the new enactment should have a fair trial they should decline making any alterations for the current licensing year. The whole of the licenses were renewed. In the matter of beer houses it may be mentioned that there were only two parishes, Whitstable and Herne, in the whole division where the population exceeds 2,500, and consequently houses of that class in other places will have to be closed at ten o'clock on Sundays and ten o'clock weekdays, the extension in the places named being up to eleven o'clock on week days only.

 

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