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Earliest 1858-

New Mogul

Latest 1986

5-6 Chapel Place

New Mogul date unknown

25 August 1939. The Adrian Street Improvements. Making a new junction road from Five Post Lane to Chapel Place.

Notice the houses still adjoining the pub.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News. 31 March 1939.

UNSIGHTLY DEMOLISHED AREAS

Councillor Took asked if there was any information with regard to the two demolished areas he spoke about some weeks ago.

The Town Clerk said that when the question was raised before he told them that nothing could be done about it. The areas were not in such a condition as to constitute a nuisance within the meaning of the Public Health Act.......

Councillor Pudney said that they were proposing to extinguish the licence of the "New Mogul" Inn.....

 

New Mogul circa 1960

Above photo circa 1960, kindly supplied by Terry Wheeler of the Ramsgate History Society.

 

New Mogul 1971

New Mogul at the top of Chapel Place in 1971. By kind permission of the Dover Library. ILL/2827.

 

New Mogul Inn

New Mogul Inn pre 1986

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 3 July, 1896.

WILFUL DAMAGE

Norah Devine, was charged with wilfully breaking a pane of glass at the “Mogul” public house. Chapel Place, value 10s.

William Henry Rogers, landlord of the “Mogul” said that on Saturday night about 10.20 p.m., the defendant and her daughter came into the house. They appeared to be sober and called for a glass of beer. Almost immediately an altercation commenced between the defendant and a man who lived in the neighbourhood. Her language became so bad that witness requested her to leave. After some hesitation she commenced to go. Just as she was leaving she struck the man, and a fight commenced. Witness put her outside, and she immediately wrapped something round her hand and smashed one of the embossed windows. Witness valued the damage at 10s. She was very violent outside and witness followed her to Wellard’s Lodging House. He then fetched a Constable and gave her into custody.

Police-constable N. Fogg said that about 10.30 on Saturday night he was called to the house, and afterwards went to Wellard’s Lodging House with the last witness. The defendant was in bed. She was fetched down and charged with breaking the window. The defendant was sober.

The Magistrates fined the defendant 3s., 10s. damage, and 7s. costs, or 14 days.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News. 6 September, 1963.

New Mogul outing 1963

All set for the annual outing of the "New Mogul" customers.

The gentleman at the back, just left of central, wearing the large hat, I am informed by Jeanette Healey is Thomas Staveley, her grand-father, just in front of him to our right is his wife, Rose, with the large bag. They were licensees of the "New Inn," till its closure in 1962.

 

 

Used at different times by Gardner, Tomson and Wotton circa 1960 and Whitbread. Gardner from 1885. The earliest date found being 1858.

 

I do not recall seeing this on maps of 1871 although "The Great Mogul" was busy in the area just before that time but had changed name to the "Bell and Lion" in 1867.

 

The Post Office Directories of 1874 and 1882 list the name as just the "Mogul". The name of the other being "Great Mogul Tavern."

 

Redevelopment threatened its continuation in 1936 and again in 1972, when those operations were resumed. The dust having settled this small part of Chapel Place is still with us to-day.

 

The same family kept it from 1908. Nellie Willson being the last. She departed in March 1986 and although Bill Cooper tried to fill the gap, he soon suffered ill health himself.

 

The pub closed on 22 May 1986. Derelict and boarded up, it was ravaged by fire on 19 November that year. Considerable damage resulted to the roof and the interior.

 

New Mogul Inn just after fire

New Mogul Inn after fire

From the East Kent Mercury 27 November, 1986.

PUB BLAZE DRAMA

Families were evacuated from a block of flats at Dover last Wednesday night when fire gutted the derelict New Mogul public house.

Twelve people were led to safety from their homes in Adrian Street as firemen fought the blaze, which was threatening the access to the flats.

After nearly two hours they were allowed back to their homes.

TRAPPED

Firemen wearing breathing apparatus searched the former pub in case anyone was trapped inside.

Squatters had been living there and back windows and doors had been forced open in the previous few days.

Police are treating the fire as arson and are continuing their investigation."

 

 

The following spoof history of the pub, I believe was displayed in the bar when Nellie Willson was landlady.

 

To the Old (New) Mogul Inn, Dover.

This house was founded originally in 1203 by I. Vaddakrap, an émigré from Russia. It was called the “Lion” and was a roaring success. Two years later at the request of the customers he had a roof put on for their greater comfort.

Due to complaints from neighbours who frequently slipped on the hill, a hole was dug in the centre of the bar to act as a toilet. It was into this hole that the famous Dover Dolly fell backwards. She was very intimate with Hubert de Burgh.

After a few years the house was taken by a Welshman, Dia Rear. He had the hole in the bar filled in and a bucket provided for the ladies. All the Pilgrims on their way to Canterbury slept in a large bed above the bar. A two-way mirror was also fitted in the room.

In 1486 it was taken over by a Chinaman, Hoo Spharted. He changed the name to the New Mogul, later the ‘n’ was dropped. It was said that this man introduced the game of Darts and to this day on a crowded night one of the players will shout his name and run to the door. His name is usually preceded by the word Christ.

Nothing is known until 1854 when an Indian arrived here with soldiers from India, his name was Eeza Wankah. He replaced the by now very jagged bucket in the ladies toilet and immediately the sales of sticking plasters fell. This is where the expression 'She's well plastered' comes from. It is said that he detested the street urchins who would follow shouting his name loudly.

In 1866 two Jewish refugees from Brixton took over, the Zarce brothers Kikki and Kissi. They introduced toilet paper which was afterward washed and hung up to dry. Certain amusements were provided such as Bar-maids walking the double tight-rope. From that moment on the Council decreed that all barmaids must wear knickers.

The present Licensee, Nelly Willson did her bit for some soldiers in the last war. She is very famous for her repartee, words such as ‘Get it yer bleedin self’ or a one word reply ‘Pizzorf’.

No doubt you will have heard of a Man of Kent, or a Kentish Man. We have here a much rarer breed, the Man of the Mogul. He can only be identified by the fact that he knows the weight of a Man-eating Seagull.

We hope that you have enjoyed this article as you sip your lovely warm beer. Do not forget as you leave to say.. ‘Show us your knickers Nell!’

For further information on Old English pubs., please write to:-

 

Miss Mary Letts,

The Old Cock Inn,

Tillet,

Hurts.

 

 

Phil Gilham and Frank Franklin accepted the challenge and were given permission to draw from the rebuilt premises in January 1987. It was then "The Mogul", the prefix 'new' having been dropped.

 

The Mogul public house, the only property of any age among the three properties left in Chapel Place, has rear walls of flint suggesting a structure of some antiquity.

 

Now sold and are offices for the nearby old peoples flats.

 

LICENSEE LIST

HAMMOND John 1858-61 (Melville's 1858 61 census)

MAKIE Owen 1874 Post Office Directory 1874

HAMMOND Thomas Bourne 1874-85 Post Office Directory 1874Post Office Directory 1882

HAMMOND W A to Sept/1885 Dover Express

Last pub licensee had YOUNG George Charles Next pub licensee had Sept/1885-89 end Dover Express

HART Frank 1889-95 ?

MOODY Frederick Empson 1891+ Post Office Directory 1891

RODGERS William Henry 1895-1901+ Pikes 1895Kelly's Directory 1899Post Office Directory 1903

MOODY Frederick Empson 1903-05 end Post Office Directory 1903

EMPSON F 1903-07 ? end

TROTH Herbert John 1905-07 end

Last pub licensee had COLLINS George Next pub licensee had 1907-Aug/08 Dover Express

BOOKER Alfred Aug/1908-27 end Pikes 1909Post Office Directory 1913Post Office Directory 1922Pikes 1924 and 1959-68 end

BOOKER Mrs Millicent F 1917 end and 1948-59 end

TYLER John 1927-28 end

EALDEN George Henry 1928-29 end

Last pub licensee had GOOD(E) Sidney Alwyn 1929-30 end Post Office Directory 1930

DANDY John Frederick 1930-33 dec'd Pikes 1932-33

DANDY Mrs Catherine Mary 1933 end

BOOKER Alfred Edwin 1933-48 end Post Office Directory 1938Pikes 1938-39Pikes 48-49

BOOKER Mrs M F 1950-56+ Kelly's Directory 1950Kelly's Directory 1953Kelly's Directory 1956

MILLICENT F 1948 ?

BOOKER Alfred 1948-59 end ?

BOOKER H 1964 ?

WILLSON Mrs Nellie R 1968-86 end Library archives 1974 Gardner & Co

Last pub licensee had COOPER William Frederick 1986 only

 

Melville's 1858From Melville's Directory 1858

Post Office Directory 1874From the Post Office Directory 1874

Post Office Directory 1882From the Post Office Directory 1882

Post Office Directory 1891From the Post Office Directory 1891

Pikes 1895From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1895

Kelly's Directory 1899From the Kelly's Directory 1899

Post Office Directory 1903From the Post Office Directory 1901

Post Office Directory 1903From the Post Office Directory 1903

Pikes 1909From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1909

Post Office Directory 1913From the Post Office Directory 1913

Post Office Directory 1922From the Post Office Directory 1922

Pikes 1924From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1924

Post Office Directory 1930From the Post Office Directory 1930

Pikes 1932-33From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1932-33

Post Office Directory 1938From the Post Office Directory 1938

Pikes 1938-39From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1938-39

Pikes 48-49From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1948-49

Kelly's Directory 1950From the Kelly's Directory 1950

Kelly's Directory 1953From the Kelly's Directory 1953

Kelly's Directory 1956From the Kelly's Directory 1956

Library archives 1974Library archives 1974

Dover ExpressFrom the Dover Express

 

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