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Earliest 1882

Deal Hoy

Opening soon

16 Duke Street

Deal

01304 363972

Deal Hoy in Deal Deal Hoy in Deal

The left of the premises can be seen another door which used to be the Bottle and Jug, but this ceased to function for that purpose in the 1970s.

Deal Hoy Sign

All coloured photos above by Paul Skelton, 2 March 2008.

Black and white sign thanks to Deal library, 1992.

Deal Hoy, 1960

Above photo taken in 1960 and kindly sent by Terry Wheeler of the Ramsgate Historical Society.

 

Duke Street can be traced back to as early as 1811 and was built on the gardens of Duke Hayman and Basden, purchased around 1798. The road being used since 1803 and already containing several buildings, one of which was the assembly hall which goes back to 1723, unfortunately being demolished in the 1960s.

An 1804 map showed Samuel Ffasham Roby owning part of the road and he was also brewer in Lower Street (now High Street).

J Hayman is the first landlord of this beer-house mentioned under the name of "Deal Hoy" in 1836 and was there till at least 1863 when he was sentenced to 14 days'  with hard labour for concealing a soldier for an unlawful purpose. he would have been 81 then. The premised finally gained a full license during his time in 1848.

In 1866, two years after new licensee, Charles Robert French, took the reign in 1864, a fire broke out presumably originating by some tobacco ashes having been dropped ion the skittle alley, and the building being built from wood was soon alight, however the building (skittle alley) was doused and under control before too much damage was done.

The ordinance Survey maps of the early 1870s showed that the pub was also part of the property next door and occupied by the family of the first landlord Hayman. It is now a private residence called Duke House.

Several different brewers have supplied the "Deal Hoy" over the years. Tomson and Wotton in 1868, "Gillow and Wareham", brewers of Sandwich in 1871, Wareham and Baxter & Stapleton also of Sandwich in 1883. 1924 the brewery supplying the "Deal Hoy" was Gardener's, and they were still delivering beer till at least 1974. Shepherd Neame supplied the beer in the new 21st century.

John Edward Devereux, having taken over from George Norris in 1903 was charged with stealing two galloons of whisky in November 1905 and George Norris returned as licensee shortly after being convicted.

The pub closed for a short time in 1941 when a protection order was granted  in favour of Roger Jones of Gardener's Ales and reopened again on the 21 April 1944 when he was again licensee.

Licensee in 2010, Gill Hawkes, was a relation of original landlord John Hayman.

 

From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury, 21 July, 1900. 1d.

THEFT OF AN OVERCOAT

John Murphy, of no fixed abode, was charged with feloniously stealing an overcoat, value 10s., the property of Frederick William Coleman, at Deal, on the 13th July.

Prosecutor deposed that about half-past 5 the previous evening prisoner and another man came into his house, the Deal Hoy, and asked for two pints of beer. As they were sober and quiet he served them, and they went into the tap-room to drink it. About 10 minutes afterwards he saw prisoner leaving his house, wearing his (witness') overcoat (produced), which he had hung up in the room a short time previously, and which he valued at 10s. He said to one of his customers "There goes a man wearing my coat," and rushed around the bar after the prisoner, and caught him opposite St. Andrew's Church, still wearing the coat. he took the coat off and sent for the police.

Asked if he had any questions to put to prosecutor prisoner said "No. I had been drinking all day, and don't know much about it."

Prosecutor: You were perfectly sober when you came into my house.

Alfred Whiddett, labourer, living at Deal, said that about a quarter to 6 the previous evening his attention was called, by the landlord of the "Deal Hoy," to the fact that the prisoner was wearing his (the landlord's) coat, and he was asked to assist in getting it back. He then ran out of the house, and saw prisoner pulling the coat off. He attempted to get away, but witness held him and prevented him from doing so. he asked him what he meant by taking his coat, and he replied that he was very sorry, and that he was drunk, but he did not appear to be so. He asked witness to give him one more chance. Witness handed him over to the prosecutor, who said that he should lock him up.

Police-sergt. Curtis deposed that at 6.30 p.m. on Friday evening he was on duty at the police station, when he was called into High Street, and prisoner was pointed out to him as being wanted for stealing an overcoat from the "Deal Hoy." he overtook the prisoner at the "Rose Hotel," and brought him to the station. he then sent for Mr. Coleman, who gave prisoner into custody. He charged him, cautioning him in the usual way, and he replied, "I have been drinking, and I hope you won't be hard on me."

In reply to Inspector Ellender, witness said that prisoner was sober.

After being charged prisoner said he would plead guilty, adding "I suppose the coat was found on me. I have been coming to Deal for the past 14 or 15 summers, and such a thing has never come to me before."

The Inspector, in answer to Capt. Mourilyan, said that prisoner was a stranger here.

Prisoner was sentenced to 28 days' hard labour.

 

From the Deal and Sandwich Express,28 October, 2010. 60p.

PUB EXHIBITION

AN ARTIST GEARING UP FOR DISPLAY AT TOWN PUB

Report by Yamurai Zendera

A DEAL-based artist is gearing up to exhibit her work in the town.

Maria Carleton is putting together the final touches to her "An Eclectic Collection exhibition," set to run at the "Deal Hoy" pub in Duke Street, from November 1 to December 6.

The mother-of-one said she will host a "meet the artist" event at the venue the day before the exhibition is due to begin. It will start at 6.30pm and she will answer questions people have about her work.

Maria's exhibition will display a body of original prints and paintings created since 2002.

Maria CarletonMaria Carleton

The 46-year-old said: "The work is like a narrative through history. It ranges from a limited edition of etched flags such as that of St. George, inspired by, the First Crusade of 1096 to 1098, to courtesans of the Baroque era with their hair piled high mirroring the fashion favoured by popstars such as Mary Wilson and Amy Winehouse and yesteryear's jazz singers."

Maria has been an artist since the 1980s. She graduated with a fine art degree from West Surrey College of Art and Design, after which she won a printmaking scholarship at UCLA in California. She later studied for a master's degree.

She is a member of South East Artists Open Studios - a group of artists and craft-makers from Deal and surrounding areas, aiming to promote the visual arts and crafts in the local community.

For three years from 2000 she was an art teacher but gave up work to raise her newborn son Rufus.

 

From the Dover Mercury, 26 May, 2011. 70p

BLUES, FOLK, COUNTRY AND SKIFFLE

Group, Dover Patrol

Above: Dover Patrol Steve Carey, Steve Bell and Mike Morgan who are performing in Deal on Bank Holiday Monday.

THERE will be foot-tapping rock 'n roll, skiffle blues, folk and gospel music at the "Deal Hoy" on Bank Holiday Monday.

The entertainment starts at 1pm and will be performed by guitar and vocal trio Dover Patrol, alias guitarist Steve Carey, stick bass player and harmony singer Steve Bell and lead guitarist Mike Morgan, who all live in the Deal area.

Steve Carey used to be bass player with progressive rock band Pete Brown & Piblokto! and later with country outlaw band Blue Train.

Steve Bell has been playing guitar, blues harp and bass since school and has accompanied many bands. Accomplished mandolin and piano player Mike started as a church organist at the age of 13 and later played with bands such as Archer and The Fabulous Poodles and with the late, celebrated Cornish folk singer, Brenda Wootton.

 

From the Dover Mercury, 21 July, 2011. 70p

PUB FUN DAY RAISES £2.8k

Simon GregoryCarol Stickler

CHAMPAGNE and hats fit for Ascot helped a Deal pub celebrate 100 years of Macmillan Cancer Support.

Georqia Bishop organised the day at the "Deal Hoy," Duke Street, which also included an auction of sealed bids.

She said: "The Rev Pilk later discovered to be Simon Gregory, (left) opened the event with an extremely lively and topical speech.

"I cannot name everybody who so willingly gave their time, expertise and finances, as it would take over most of letters on page two of the Mercury!

"So a very enormous thank you to all. It was a great and varied afternoon and evening, thoroughly enjoyed by everybody."

The event raised £2,800.

 

From the Dover Mercury, 15 December, 2011. 70p

DEAL HOY PUB TO OFFER LOCAL MUSIC AND FOOD

Advertising feature

Ian and Sharon GoodbanDeal Hoy 2011

AHOY there! There are new faces at the helm or popular community pub "Deal Hoy" in Duke Street.

Ian and Sharon Goodban will be taking over on Tuesday, December 20, and are bringing with them lots of ideas to enhance the hostelry's reputation, ensuring it has plenty to offer.

Running a pub has been a lifelong ambition for Deal born and bred Ian and he is thrilled to be taking on his own local. They will maintain the Hoy's reputation as a music venue although music will stop on a Sunday in favour of a more traditional ambience, with complimentary bar snacks and a raffle.

Music lovers be reassured, there will be some great sounds reverberating around live folk, jazz, blues and soul.

Kicking off on Wednesday, December 21, will be Deal-based Carl, Konrad and Joe with their eclectic gipsy/folk sounds.

On Wednesday, December 28, there will be blues and soul classics on acoustic guitar and saxophone from Cameron Stenhouse and Doug.

After Christmas, the Goodbans will be introducing food, serving simple favourites, using local ingredients.

Ian said "We love it here and the "Hoy" is a good local pub with a really nice feeling and atmosphere. We want to build on that and nurture it as a place where all types can come for a drink and a chat, We hope to encourage people in and keep them entertained.

"We want to make the pub female-friendly and look after ladies who come in. We also want to encourage local groups and societies. The pub is known for its monthly artists' spot and that is going to continue."

They are looking to introduce a photographic competition in the summer where pub users will vote for their favourite image.

A more unusual event in the pipeline is a sprat eating competition. "North enders were traditionally known as 'sprat gobblers'." said Ian.

The pub dates from 1850 and is named after a small sailing vessel which once transported goods between London and the Kent coast.

Ian has travelled around the world, served in the Royal Navy as a weapons engineer and photographer, and worked as on offshore surveyor.

He has more recently been teaching physics at Walmer Science College and Dover Boys Grammar School.

As a hobby, he is a keen diver. The son of retired Deal fisherman Derek Goodban, the sea and town remain fundamental to Ian's life.

"We both enjoy pubs and I feel I have really come home," said Ian.

 

 

LICENSEE LIST

HAYMAN Joseph 1836-62+ Bagshaw's Directory 1847Melville's 1858Kelly's 1862 beerhouse to 1847 alehouse 1863+

FRENCH Charles Robert 1864+

Last pub licensee had BROWN Rattery 1867

CORY John Langley 1867-82+ Kelly's 1874Post Office Directory 1874Post Office Directory 1882

FINNIS William 1887+

GRANT William J 1891+ Post Office Directory 1891

COLEMAN William 1898

NORRIS George Thomas 1898-99+ Kelly's 1899

DEVEREUX John Robert 1903-05 Post Office Directory 1903

NORRIS George Thomas 1905-Mar/33 Post Office Directory 1913Deal library 1914Post Office Directory 1922

NORRIS William Worthington Hadley James Mar/1933-34 Kelly's 1934 (Son of above)

NORRIS Mrs Maud 1834

JACKSON Frederick 1835+

OATES John W 1938+ Post Office Directory 1938

ABBOT Miss May Elizabeth 1941

JONES Roger Thomas 1941-44+

CURLING C E 1955+

OATRIDGE Eric J 1962-87 Library archives 1974 Gardner & Co

BRETT Trevor 1987+

JOHNSON Charles & Josephine 1992+

WILLIAMS Stephen 1993+

LENHAM Jeffrey M & Carol, BALL Christopher & HOLMES Michelle Nov/1993+

WILLIAMS S H 1994

BROWN Jonathan 1995-99 Next pub licensee had

ORMSTON Michael Sept/2000

ORMSTON Michael & MULHERN Michael Oct/2000-01

LENHAM Jeffrey M & BALL Christopher J May/2001-09

SHORT Brian 2009+

HAWKES Mrs G 2010+

GOODBAN IAN 20/Dec/2011+

 

Bagshaw's Directory 1847From Bagshaw Directory 1847

Melville's 1858From Melville's Directory 1858

Kelly's 1862From the Kelly's Directory 1862

Post Office Directory 1874From the Post Office Directory 1874

Kelly's 1874From the Kelly's Directory 1874

Post Office Directory 1882From the Post Office Directory 1882

Post Office Directory 1891From the Post Office Directory 1891

Kelly's 1899From the Kelly's Directory 1899

Post Office Directory 1903From the Post Office Directory 1903

Post Office Directory 1913From the Post Office Directory 1913

Deal library 1914Deal Library List 1914

Post Office Directory 1922From the Post Office Directory 1922

Kelly's 1934From the Kelly's Directory 1934

Post Office Directory 1938From the Post Office Directory 1938

Library archives 1974Library archives 1974

 

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