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Earliest 1804

Rose Inn

Still open

81 High Street

29 Lower Street Pigot's Directory 1828-29Bagshaw's Directory 1847Post Office Directory 1874Kelly's 1878

Deal

Rose Hotel in Deal Rose Hotel in Deal Rose Hotel sign in Deal

From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury, 24 March, 1900.

EXTENSION

Mr. R. Currie, of the "Rose Hotel," was granted an extension till 12.30 that night, the occasion of the Licensed Victuallers' Dinner.

 

From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury, 6 December, 1873.

BOROUGH PETTY SESSIONS

The Magistrates present at these Sessions on Thursday were the Mayor, and G. Hughes, W. M. Cavell, E. Brown, and G. Fry, Esqrs.

Permission to keep his house open till one o'clock on Thursday morning next was granted to Mr. D. Almond, of the "Rose Inn," Lower Street, the occasion being the anniversary dinner of the members of the Lodge of Oddfellows meeting there.

From the East Kent Mercury, 5 July, 1989.

THE ROSE RECALLS A FAMOUS DEAL CLERGYMAN

Noisette Rose Inn sign 1Bourbon Rose Inn sign 2

The New Inn-sign for the "Rose Hotel," popular Deal High Street hostelry is attracting considerable attention. Especially from rose growers. For the sign shows two beautiful and authentic roses painted by Bill Pierce, the Charrington artist.

And thereby hangs a tail!

Rev. Henry Honeywood D'Ombrain

The red rose is a Bourbon Rose and the yellow a Noisette rose.... an both are linked with Rev. Henry Honeywood D'Ombrain, the first vicar of St. George's Church which is next to "The Rose."

He became Perpetual Curate at St. George's in 1849 and was instituted as the first Vicar in 1852.

He was founder of The Rose Society and its secretary for the first twenty-five years. The society was started by Mr. D'Ombrain in 1876 when he was sixty years of age.

He was a keen horticulturist and he wrote gardening articles for half-a-century under the pseudonym of "D. Deal."

He brought the Noisette Rose  to this country from France and I understand cultivated and bred the Bourbon Rose himself.

John Turner

The two roses on the new inn-sign are taken from two original prints provided by John Turner, of Union Road, Deal, John is one of the most enthusiastic of Deal's growing group of local historians. It was he who suggested the idea of linking "The Rose" with the memory of Henry Honeywood D'Ombrain.

When Bill Pierce was enthusiastic John did a great deal of research. John is a pillar of the Deal Society and has been responsible for a number of excellent exhibitions in recent years.

Stamp collecting and photography are among his hobbies and he is a former president of the Kent Photographic Association.

John Turner has one of the most complete stamp collections of local memorabilia I have seen. It builds up to reveal a perfect backcloth of the town's dramatic history.

Bill Pierce

Bill Pierce is an artist of consummate skills and has worked for Charrington since the end of World War Two. His work is to be found - and admired - on hundreds of public houses and inns in all parts of Kent and Sussex.

Bill works from a studio which he has in Ringwould, adjacent to "The Five Bells" public house.

Bill lives in Middle Street, Deal, and had early art training at Dover and then the Putney College of Art.

He served in the Army in World War Two and saw action in Italy. When the struggle there was over the military authorities offered him a place at the University of Art in Florence. He spent six months there studying the very best of Italy's contemporary artists.

When he came home from the war he joined the then Walmer Brewery which was owned by Thompson and Son. He then began his unique career as a painter of inn signs.

His work is art at its highest form and is greatly admired, especially by visitors from overseas.

For his there is always considerable historic research to be done before he gets out his brushes.

He is a meticulous craftsman and he ensures his designs are absolutely right before he starts work in the studio.

Research has taken him to museums, libraries, solicitors, offices and, more than once, to a lonely graveyard.

He has never been faulted over the authenticity of his work.

Bill tells me many famous artists have painted inn-signs in their time and among them is Hogarth.

Through his research Bill has become very familiar with the local history not only of Deal but all parts of Kent and Sussex.

"I think inn signs are part of the British scene," he told me.

I believe him and go farther. They are legitimate works of art.

The "Rose Hotel" was once, so I am told, the office buildings for the old Hill's brewery which operated with great success in Stanhope Road.

It became a commercial hotel when the brewery ceased to exist.

Stan and Min Dale

The licensees are Stan and Min Dale. They moved in last autumn after a three year stint at the "Antwerp," opposite Deal Pier.

Stan has been in the trade almost ten years. His first pub was in Margate. Before that he spent twenty years winning coal from the dark recesses of Betteshanger Colliery.

Stan has been secretary of the Licensed Victuallers Association for the last three years, while Min, is the vice-chairman of the Ladies Auxiliary.

Between them they do wonderful work for numerous charities.

They have three grown-up children and are grand-parents.

Stan says, "We are both delighted this notable local collection has been linked with "The Rose."

It is only through the local interest of enthusiasts like John Turner such things become known.

 

From the YourDover 17 November 2010

PUNTERS PICK UP A PIN BEFORE A PINT

HUNDREDS of pounds have been raised for a charity following birthday celebrations at a pub.

Tony Kairns used his 50th birthday celebration in the Rose Hotel in Deal as an occasion to raise money for the RSPB.

Mr Kairns agreed with the landlord to operate a no badge, no pint policy, encouraging customers in the bar to buy a RSPB pin-badge.

The pub sold out of the whole box, raising more than £200 on the night.

Carol Knott and landlord

Nichola Willett, the RSPB's senior community fund-raiser, said: "This is a great example of someone coming up with an original and fun idea to raise funds for charity. The no badge, no pint theme could be used in any pub."

Customers at the Rose Hotel have become proud supporters of the RSPB and display their pin badge donations and certificates on the wall of the bar.

Volunteer Carol Knott manages the collection box, counting up the cash and replacing the badges. So far this year she has helped raise more than £800 managing 23 pin badge boxes in her area.

She said: "It's great that in the current economic climate, people can be so generous in helping wildlife.

"Thanks to all the businesses who display our boxes and everyone who supports the RSPB by buying the badges."

Mrs Willett added: "I am delighted the RSPB has such a great representative in Deal and Sandwich and I would like to thank Carol for all her hard work."

 

 

An outlet for Charrington & Co. in 1974. Library archives 1974

 

LICENSEE LIST

HINDS Widow 1804+

RALPH Joseph 1823-28+ (Pigot's Directory 1823Pigot's Directory 1828-29 Lower Street)

WHITE Henry 1832-mid50s (Pigot's Directory 1832-34Pigot's Directory 1839Pigot's Directory 1840Bagshaw's Directory 1847 Lower Street)

BOKES John 1859 The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

ALMOND David 1872-82+ Post Office Directory 1874Post Office Directory 1882

FROST Percy Alfred 1887+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

EDWARDS George 1893+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

OXLEY Frederick Augustus 1899+ Kelly's 1899

CURRIE Mr R 1900+ Deal Mercury

CLARK Arthur E 1908+ Pikes 1908

CLEMINSON J C 1914+ Deal library 1914

DODSWORTH Samuel Thomas 1915+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

CASE G W 1936-48+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

DALE W 1950s+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

THOMPSON William E 1966-74+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and RogersLibrary archives 1974 Charrington & Co

WORKMAN Stewart 1975+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

FORSTER John 1981+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

DODD Philip 1986+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

Last pub licensee had DALE Stan & Min 1988-89+

WALSH Shirley 1991+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

FIELDON Paul 1992+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

FIELDEN Peter & Josie 2010+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

 

Pigot's Directory 1823From the Pigot's Directory 1823

Pigot's Directory 1828-29From the Pigot's Directory 1828-29

Pigot's Directory 1832-34From the Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34

Pigot's Directory 1839From the Pigot's Directory 1839

Pigot's Directory 1840From the Pigot's Directory 1840

Bagshaw's Directory 1847From Bagshaw Directory 1847

Post Office Directory 1874From the Post Office Directory 1874

Kelly's 1878From the Kelly's Directory 1878

Post Office Directory 1882From the Post Office Directory 1882

Kelly's 1899From the Kelly's Directory 1899

Pikes 1908From Pikes 1908

Deal library 1914Deal Library List 1914

Library archives 1974Library archives 1974

The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and RogersThe Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

Deal MercuryFrom the Deal Walmer & Sandwich Mercury

 

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