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Earliest 1882-

Hope

Latest Jan 2011

144 Canterbury Road

(Lydden)

01304 830392

Hope Inn, Lydden, 1935

Photos above and below shows the Hope Inn 1935. Kindly sent by Lynne Burlingham.

Hope Inn, Lydden 1935
Hope at Lydden date unknown

Above photo of the Hope Inn at Lydden by kind permission of Dover Library. Date unknown.

Hope Inn, Lydden, date unknown

Hope Inn, date unknown. Picture taken from a postcard by kind permission Dover Library.

Hope Inn army late 1930's
Hope Inn army late 1930's

Above two photographs show military manoeuvres outside the Hope Inn in the late 1930's. By kind permission of Dover Library.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 16 September, 1887. 1d.

HARVEST SUPPER

Mr. Golder, of the “Hope Inn,” Lydden, applied for an extension of one hour on Saturday, 17th inst., on this occasion of a harvest supper at his premises.

The Magistrates granted an extension of one hour.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 5 October, 1888.

FATAL ACCIDENT AT LYDDEN

On Tuesday a miller's son named Boughton, about 16 years of age, of Barham, was sent by his father with a trace horse to meet a returning waggon from Dover to assist in going up Lydden Hill. The youth was sitting sideways on the horse and also leading a dog by a string. A gentleman came up the road with two dogs, and when they met the lad's dog ran under the horse's heels and the animal taking fright galloped off, throwing the lad and entangling him in the trace. he was dragged in that way nearly half a mile. When the horse was stopped he was found dead and very badly knocked about. An inquest was held on Wednesday afternoon at Mr. Golders, "Hope Inn," when a verdict of "Accidental Death" was returned.

 

From an email sent 4 October 2009

I have just come across the website for the Hope Inn, Lydden and was amazed to find photos there that I recognized, especially that of my grandparents Tom and Ethel Solley. They were indeed licensees of the Hope Inn (I think from about 1926). I am not sure about the couple with them - it could be relatives, although I do not recognise them - or friends or customers.

I also have another two photos of the military manoeuvres. These I believe to have been taken by my late father Bill Solley, who was a keen photographer.

After my parents died in the late 1990s, I inherited their collection of family photos and negatives. These include more photos of the Hope Inn with other relatives, friends, neighbours and regular customers. Again I can identify a few people, but the majority are unknown.

I also inherited a cast iron table which came from the Hope. My parents used it in their garden and it has been used in our garden, although it now resides in our garden shed!

 

Tom Solley (Thomas Walter) was born in 1882, at Potts Farm, Ash-next-Sandwich, son of William and Charlotte Solley. He was one of the youngest children in a large family of brothers and sisters (William and Charlotte later became Custodians of Richborough Castle and lived in an ex-army hut on the site).

Tom married Ethel May Sidders (born Canterbury 1889) in December 1913. He seems to have been a bit of a Jack-of-all trades.

During the First World War he was a Grocer in Bench Street, Dover. At some point he also worked for the man who later became Lord Brabazon at his home in Sandwich (apparently my father used to wear his childrens hand-me-downs when he was little). He also worked at Watersend, probably before taking over the Hope. I think they lived in a cottage there and Dad went to Temple Ewell school (I have several school photos), before going on to Dover County School for Boys in about 1925.

After Tom and Ethel left the Hope Inn, they moved to Heckfield near Reading to be closer to my parents. They married at St Mary's, Lydden in April 1938 and went to live in Woodley just outside Reading, where Dad worked for Miles Aircraft.

Mum's maiden name was Marjorie Vaughan and she lived at Rosemount, Canterbury Road, Lydden. Towards the end of the War, Tom and Ethel moved back to Eastry (2 Model Cottages), where Tom died in April 1945. Ethel remained there for some years and ran a small sweet/cake shop from a lean-to beside the cottage, before moving to Ramsgate for a few years and then to Coopers Houses, Lower Chantry Lane, Canterbury. She died in 1975.

 

Lynne Burlingham

Military Manoeuvres Lydden Hope circa 1930 Military Manoeuvres Lydden circa 1930

Above 2 photos kindly submitted by Lynne Burlingham, showing more military manoeuvres circa 1930.

Hope Inn, in snow date unknown

Above, Hope Inn, in snow, date unknown, kindly sent by Lynne Burlingham.

Hope Inn in snow date unknown

Above, Hope Inn, in snow, date unknown, kindly sent by Lynne Burlingham.

Hope Lydden, Thomas and Ethel Solley 1930's

Centre couple are licensees Thomas and Ethel Solley outside the Hope Inn, Lydden, 1930's. Kind permission Dover Library.

 

Hope Inn Bill Solley

Above photo kindly submitted by Lynne Burlingham who says:- "photo shows my father Thomas William James Solley (Bill) outside the "Hope Inn." The two with him may be friends from the village or relations. The other boy could be Herbert Charles (Bert) Young, Dad's friend from the County School, also his Best Man and my Godfather.

Ethel Solley

Also from Lynn Burlingham:-

The woman in the photo holding a toddler and standing beside Ethel Solley outside the Hope, Lynn thought it might possibly be Beatrice Parry with her son Keith, but her cousin says it's definitely them, so they remain anonymous. Incidentally, Beatrice was the daughter of Tom Solley's older sister Pauline Selina Solley and her husband Arthur Cook.

Hope group

Another from Lynn Burlingham:-

The photo Hope Group - left, Bill Solley holding Spot (Tom and Ethel's dog), my mother Madge, unknown man, Ethel Solley at the back and four other unknowns.

 

Hope Inn, Lydden, regulars circa 1930.

Above photo and next 3 below sent by Lynne Burlingham showing Hope Inn  regulars circa 1930

Hope Inn, Lydden, regulars circa 1930.

Outside the side entrance of the Hope Inn circa 1930.

Hope Inn, Lydden, regulars circa 1930.

Hope Inn circa 1930. If anyone can name these people, please contact me at the email address at bottom of this screen.

Hope Inn, Lydden, regulars circa 1930.

Hope Inn regulars, circa 1930.

Hope Inn, Lydden regulars 1930s

Hope Inn regulars again, circa 1930s. Kindly sent by Lynne Burlingham.

Hope Inn from hill, June 1930

Above, Hope Inn from hill, June 1930, kindly sent by Lynne Burlingham.

Hope Inn from hill, June 1930

Above, Hope Inn from hill, June 1930, kindly sent by Lynne Burlingham.

Hope Inn circa 1951

Above photo again kindly sent by Lynn Burlingham circa 1951, who says:- "I am the small child who obviously didn't want her photo taken! I would probably have been about 4 then or at most 5, on one of our summer visits to Kent. Mum (Madge Solley nee Vaughan) is in the centre.

Whitbread Inn Sign Hope InnHope Inn sign 1970

Above shows close-up of Inn Sign as depicted on one of the Whitbread Inn Sign cards circa 1952. Fourth series - No.14 in Series. Design by Harvey James, and right, in 1970.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 10 February, 1950.

ANNUAL LICENSING REPORT

Mr. Bracher made an application on behalf of the "Hope Inn," Lydden, the licensee, Harry Hubbard stating that there was a persistent demand for spirits, especially for people coming off the cross-Channel boats. He produced a petition signed by 70 people and the acknowledgement of the formal notice by the Chairman of the Parish Council, who had written that he thought that there should be a full license for the house as some people wanted to get spirits as medicine.- Approved, subject to an additional monopoly value of £430.

 

From the East Kent Mercury, 15 February 15, 1990.

PUMPS MIGHTIER THAN WORD FOR GEORGE.

Journalist and public relations man George Pepper has gone back to his roots.

He and his wife Ann have taken over The "Hope" public house, at Lydden, and plan to return the historic hostelry to its former glory.

George's father was licensee of The "Rose Inn," West Langdon, and then at The "Royal George" - now named The "High and Dry" - at Waldershare.

So, from boyhood George has had experience of pub life.

George was educated at St Ethelburga's in Queen Street, Deal, and he worked on the Dover Express for nearly 30 years. He was editor from 1964 to 1987.

For the last two years he was an account executive with Plus PR the Ashford public relations company.

Ann Pepper is the cook at The "Hope" and she is delighting customers with finely flavoured and distinctive dishes. [...]

The pub is fast becoming a popular lunchtime rendezvous for businessmen and for those who enjoy eating out in the evening.

 

Hope Inn at Lydden 2000

The above picture was taken off the Lydden calendar 2001, so I would assume it was taken in 2000.

Hope Inn, Lydden circa 2004

Circa 2004.

Hope Inn Lydden advert

Above shows an advert that appeared in the Dover Express 1 November 2007.

Hope Inn at Lydden Hope Inn at Lydden Hope Inn Sign

Three photos above taken by Paul Skelton, 7 June 2008.

Hope sign 2010Hope sign 2010

New signs painted by Scott Perry October 2010.

 

Originally a Provisions Shop and can be dated back to 1847. In 1914 the licensee was also listed as a grocer and I would assume that it was around about that time when the licence was granted allowing the the sale of wines & spirits.

 

From the Dover Express, 4 June, 2009

NEW LANDLORDS ARE FULL OF IDEAS TO REJUVENATE VILLAGE PUB.

Hope licencees 2009

New life: From left, Cassie and Steve Samme with head chef Chris Setchfield.

 

A MARRIED couple have staked their financial future on a village pub.

Steve Samme, 35, and wife Cassie, 21, moved from Chesham, Buckinghamshire, with their children after taking on an indefinite lease at the Hope Inn in Lydden.

The pair were recently made redundant from brewer Marston's and admit going it alone when pubs are being hit hard by recession, taxes and the smoking ban is a gamble.

Former relief pub manager Mr Samme said: "I've been in and out of the pub trade and catering for years. I'm a chef by trade so I have not gone into this blindly.

"It's going to be difficult. We have managed to negotiate with our brewery to reduce the prices on beer. For example a pint of Guinness was £3.20, that's now £2.95."

The couple hired a firm to scout for pubs and were impressed by the Hope.

Mr. Samme said: "The pub has a lot of potential. It had a massive refurb in February and we have also had a bit of a cleanup. We have brought back the skittles team, the darts team and pool team. We are looking at having car boot sales on Saturday mornings.

"We know it won't survive on drinks alone. Because of its village location we realise food is important, which is why I want to bring my experience as a chef to bear."

 

From the Dover Express, 21 January, 2010

PUB'S NEW OWNER IS HOPEFUL OF SUCCESS

Elaine Smetham and son Luke

Smells like community spirit: New owner of the Hope Inn, Elaine Smetham, pictured here with son Luke, is grateful for the support of the community.

Elaine 'fell in love' with the inn

THE Lydden community has thrown its support behind a local pub, according to the new owner.

Elaine Smetham, of the "Hope Inn," has been bowled over by the help from local residents since buying the business.

She believes this is because people desperately want it to do well following a series of different owners in recent times.

While the mother-of-three was putting things in place with son Luke, locals lent a hand decorating and prepping the bar and restaurant.

Elaine, 48, Said: "The people around here are very friendly. Everybody in the village is behind us and wants the pub to survive. It's had quite a few different owners in the past, and it's fair to say it had fallen into quite a state when we took it over."

Elaine has worked in the trade since she was 13 and says owning her own pub fulfils a lifelong ambition.

She moved from Bedford after "falling in love" with the Hope Inn.

She said: "It's only in the last 12 months that I've had the funds to do something like this. Before this, I was working for three years with a friend doing mass catering at weddings and sales work.

"I always wanted a country pub and my partner suggested the "Hope Inn." I fell in love with it and visualised what I could do with it."

Determined Elaine says she has been working 18 hour days to get things up to speed.

She said: "People talk about the recession and it being a bad time for pubs, but I'm actually in favour of the smoking ban, and I know through hard work that this place can be a real success."

Elaine has introduced a senior citizens' menu, and regular jam and salsa nights.

 

From the Dover Mercury, 24 June 2010.

FOUR HOMES BID AT FORMER PUB SITE

FOUR houses are planned at The Hope Inn, Canterbury Road, Lydden.

Applications have been submitted for the demolition of part of the single-storey section of the existing building and the construction of two three-bedroom and two four-bedroom houses on the land north-east of the car park.

 

From the Dover Express, 2 September, 2010

VILLAGE LANDLADY'S FIGHT TO HALT DEVELOPMENT

Elaine Smetham and supporters

Above shows Hope Inn landlady Elaine Smetham and Lydden villagers appealing against plans to demolish part of the pub.

House-build plans raise fears for pub.

Report by Kathy Bailes

RESIDENTS in Lydden are on a mission to save their village pub, fearing development on part of the grounds will mean its closure.

Last month Dover council granted permission for four houses, access and car parking changes to be built on land at the rear of the Hope Inn. But the proposal by land owner Martin Richards will entail part of the pub being demolished, car parking spaces cut from 30 to 12, and loss of garden space and the popular skittles alley.

Furious landlady Elaine Smetham says she has ploughed £15,000 into the business since taking it over in January and had hoped to extend her tenancy for another three years when it ends in November, but now fears the proposal will shut her down.

The mum-of-three, 49, said: "It will mean knocking my pub down. The plans are to knock down the side extension but this is not a residential extension, it is business. It means the bar, pool table, darts and toilets will go. My 28-seat restaurant will also be affected.

"This was a failing business last year but now it is on the up. It has grown. It is not just a pub, I have the restaurant, camping, and bed and breakfast. And I employ three local people. If my pub is knocked down it will be the end of all that."

The planning permission was granted at a Dover District Council meeting on August 19 despite objections from Lydden Parish Council and a number of villagers who attended the committee hearing.

In a report to councillors, planning officer Sarah Platts acknowledged the scheme proposes "demolition of the single-storey pub building," but added "none of the matters raised are considered to override the conclusion that permission may be granted."

Parish councillor Ben King said: "The Hope Inn is our only village amenity.

"If the single-storey extension is demolished I don't see how the pub can remain viable."

He confirmed the parish council is to appeal against the decision.

Regular Bryan Merry, 37, is one of those opposed to the development. The Kent Top Travel bus driver said: "It is important to us to keep the Hope Inn as it is. It is the only place in Lydden where people can meet, there are no village shops and the village hall has no real facilities. This is the hub of the community."

Elaine and villagers are due to meet with Dover and Deal MP Charlie Elphicke tomorrow to discuss fighting the decision.

 

 

Unfortunately closed early in 2011. Now boarded up.

 

Hope Inn May 2011 Hope Inn 2011

Above photo kindly taken by Stuart Kinnon, 10 May 2011.

Hope May 2011

Closed Hope taken by Tony Wells, 23 May 2011

Hope Skittle Alley 2011

Above, also by Tony Wells showing the skittle alley at rear.

 

Information just received, November 2011 says:- Planning application 10/00488: Erection of four dwellings and construction of vehicular access on pub land has been granted.

 

LICENSEE LIST

GOULDER Charles dec'd to Nov/1882 Dover Express

GOULDER Edward Nov/1882-Nov/96 dec'd Dover Express (son of above)

GOULDER Rosetta (widow) Nov/1896-Mar/1902 Dover Express

MARSHALL Mr Frank Mar/1902+ Dover Express

JENNINGS Mr P to Oct/1904 Dover Express

BARDEN Mr S Oct/1904+ Dover Express

PARKS Percy Alfred 1905-June/09 Next pub licensee had Dover Express

WEBB Mr June/1909+ Dover Express

TUCKER D J D to July/1911 Dover Express

TUCKER Mr F July/1911-14 Dover ExpressPost Office Directory 1914 (Grocer)

SOLLEY Mr Tom W 1926ish-Sept/1940 Dover Express More info

HUBBARD Harry Sept/1940-50 Dover Express

ORME Andre 1970-82 dec'd Library archives 1974 Fremlins

ORME Lesley 1982+ Whitbread

PEPPER George Jun 1990+ (father was at "Rose," West Langdon)

KNELL Roy Peter Mar/1996-Oct/2006

SPARKS Glenn 2008-Jun/09

SAMME Steve Jun/2009-Nov/09

SMETHAM Elaine 29/Nov/2009+

 

Post Office Directory 1914From the Post Office Directory 1914

Library archives 1974Library archives 1974

Dover ExpressFrom the Dover Express

 

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