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Dover Express 27 April 1866
Police Court, Friday, April 20th: Before R.W. Boarer and J. Tolputt
Esqs.
John Bromley was summoned to show cause why he should not be bound over
to keep the peace towards James William Newman.
James William Newman said on Tuesday evening he was standing just below
the "Raglan Tavern," in Dover Street, talking to Mr. Lepper, when the
defendant came across and started abusing him. He said complainant had
taken a false oath against his brother in court, and that he would smash
his ---- head. That was the only threat he made, and he was afraid he
would carry it into execution.
Cross-examined: Did not laugh at him. Did not ask him to lend him 5s. on
Tuesday morning. Did not insult his father in court. Did not say he
would smash his pumpkin. Did not say he would fetch his brother back and
give them both twenty years.
Godfrey Lepper, builder, Folkestone: On Tuesday evening he was talking
to Mr. Newman opposite the Raglan Tavern, in Dover Street. Saw Mr.
Newman come from the Raglan Tavern. Heard defendant say Mr. Newman had
taken a false oath, and when his brother was released he should never
drive another nail for him. Heard him say he would smash Mr. Newman's
---- head.
The defendant said if complainant spoke the truth he was no more afraid
of him than he was of complainant, and he only did it to aggravate him.
The Bench ordered defendant to be bound on his own recognisance of £20,
and one surety in £10, to keep the peace for two months, and remarked
that if he advised his brother when he came out of prison not to return
to Mr. Newman's employ, it would be the worst advice he ever received,
for he would be brought before them again and receive a much longer term
of imprisonment.
Mr. Clark, landlord of the Railway Tavern, pleaded guilty of having his
house open on Sunday morning at 5.30.
The evidence of police constable Smith showed that he found a man and
two women in the house kept by the defendant.
The defendant said the people told him they had walked from Dover that
morning, or he should not have served them.
Supt. Martin said one of the men was afterwards found by the police in a
beastly state of intoxication, from the effects of which he was still in
Elham Union.
The Bench said this altered the matter materially, for they had cause to
suspect one of the parties in the house (the man taken by the police)
had been committing a felony.
Supt. Martin said that he had no fault to find with the house, and that
up to this time the defendant had conducted it in a quiet and
respectable manner, but as a large quantity of rum had evidently been
served to the man, he thought it was his duty to bring the case before
them.
The magistrates said they hoped the publicans of Folkestone would not
make a mistake in the light sentence they were about to pass upon him,
but taking into consideration the manner in which he had conducted his
house, they should fine him 5s. and 8s. costs.
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Kentish Express 28 April 1866
Police Court, Friday, April 20th: Before R.W. Boarer and J. Tolputt
Esqs.
John Bromley was summoned to show cause why he should not be bound over
to keep the peace towards James William Newman.
James William Newman said on Tuesday evening he was standing just below
the "Raglan Tavern," in Dover Street, talking to Mr. Lepper, when the
defendant came across and began abusing him. He said complainant had
taken a false oath against his brother in court, and that he would smash
his ---- head. That was the only threat he made, and he was afraid he
would carry it into execution.
Cross-examined: Did not laugh at him. Did not ask him to lend him 5s. on
Tuesday morning. Did not insult his father in court. Did not say he
would smash his pumpkin. Did not say he would fetch his brother back and
give them both twenty years.
Godfrey Lepper, builder, Folkestone: On Tuesday evening he was talking
to Mr. Newman opposite the "Raglan Tavern," in Dover Street. Saw Mr.
Newman come from the "Raglan Tavern." Heard defendant say Mr. Newman had
taken a false oath, and when his brother was released he should never
drive another nail for him. Heard him say he would smash Mr. Newman's
---- head.
The defendant said if complainant spoke the truth he was no more afraid
of him than he (defendant) was of complainant, and only did it to
aggravate him.
The Bench ordered defendant to be bound on his own recognisance of £20,
and one surety in £10, to keep the peace for two months, and remarked
that if he advised his brother when he came out of prison not to return
to Mr. Newman's employ, it would be the worst advice he ever received,
for he would be brought before them again and receive a much longer term
of imprisonment.
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Dover Chronicle 22 December 1866
Police Court, Wednesday: Before The Mayor, and Messrs. Boarer and
Kelcey.
Thomas Sandford and Edward Stone were charged with stealing on the 16th
inst., two boxes of cigars, value 25s., the property of Godfrey Lepper.
Godfrey Lepper said on oath: I am the landlord of the "Raglan Tavern,"
Folkestone. I know the two prisoners. I saw them both at my house last
Sunday evening, about five o'clock. They were in the bar. Stone was
sitting down, and Sandford was standing against the counter. They went
away about three quarters of an hour after I came in. Before they went
away I missed two boxes of cigars, which were kept out of reach, on a
shelf beside the clock in the bar. I saw the boxes there at five past
three on the Sunday. Both the prisoners were in the bar at that time.
The boxes were about eight feet from the floor, and could not be reached
without getting on the counter. Mr. Martin brought me some cigars tied
up in a paper and handkerchief at about half past eight last night. I
can identify the cigars as being my property by comparing them with some
I have in my possession. The cigars produced are those Mr. Martin
brought me. The value of the two boxes stolen is 25s. I went with Mr.
Martin to Stone's house, in Charlotte Terrace, at about a quarter to
eleven last night, and in the back garden belonging to the house, police
constable Reynolds found the other handkerchief produced with two
bundles of cigars in it, and which I can also swear to as being my
property by the same means as I identify the others. I saw both the
prisoners in custody last night. Sandford said that Stone had taken the
cigars and given him part of them. I was present at Stone's house when
he was taken into custody. He said he was innocent, but when the other
lot of cigars which were taken from behind Sandford's house were shown
to him, he said he had taken the cigars and told us that we should find
some under some shavings in his garden.
By prisoner Sandford: You did say that Stone had taken the cigars.
Robert Fisher said: I am the landlord of the Black Bull. I know both the
prisoners. Sandford lives about forty yards from me. I was out looking
at my sheep about four o'clock yesterday afternoon in my meadow, when I
found in the dyke a parcel tied up in a handkerchief, and upon opening
it I found it contained ninety six cigars. I think the handkerchief,
paper and cigars produced are those I found. I afterwards handed them
over to police constable Sharpe.
Police constable Richard Sharpe deposed: I am in the Folkestone force.
About seven o'clock last night I received from last witness the
handkerchief, paper and cigars produced, which I took to Superintendent
Martin.
Henry Newman gave the following evidence: I am a bricklayer living at
No, 13, Darlington, Folkestone. I know both the prisoners. I was in the
company of Stone at about twenty minutes to three on Sunday afternoon
last at the Raglan Tavern. At about half past ten last Monday morning I
saw Stone at his work, and told him that Mr. Lepper had lost two boxes
of cigars, and that he said if he (Stone) would bring the cigars back,
if he had got them, Mr. Lepper would forgive him (Stone) and say no more
about them. Stone said he had not had them. I told him that Mr. Lepper
was going to give Sandford into custody. Stone then said “What's he
(Sandford) done with his box of cigars?” I then left him.
Henry John Reynolds said: I am in the Folkestone force. Last evening,
about eight o'clock, from information received, I went to prisoner
Sandford's house. I charged him with stealing two boxes of cigars from
Mr. Lepper. He said he knew nothing about it. I then conveyed him to the
station house. On the road I told him that there had been some cigars
found at the back of his premises. On our arrival at the station house
he was duly cautioned, after which he said that Stone had taken the
cigars and gave them to him. I afterwards apprehended Stone at his house
in Charlotte Terrace at about ten last evening. I told him the charge,
and he said he was innocent. I asked him if he had any cigars about his
premises and he said “No.” I then conveyed him to the police station,
where he was duly cautioned. We then fetched Sandford out of the cell
and laid the bundle of cigars found by Fisher on the table. Sandford
said “Stone took them and gave them to me.” Stone did not speak then,
but directly afterwards he said “I took them and you will find some more
at the back of my house buried underneath some shavings.” Accordingly I
went last night at about a quarter to eleven and found the other bundle
produced, which I handed over to Superintendent Martin.
William Martin said: I am Superintendent of Folkestone police force. I
received the handkerchief, paper and cigars produced from P.C. Sharpe
last evening, and from P.C. Reynolds the handkerchief and cigars
produced, and they have since been in my possession. I have heard the
deposition of P.C. Reynolds and I can swear it is correct so far as the
statements made by the prisoners go.
On the prisoners being asked if they were guilty or not guilty, Stone
pleaded guilty and Sandford would not speak.
Both prisoners were committed for trial at the next quarter sessions.
An application for bail was then made on behalf of both the prisoners.
The Bench declined to accept bail for Stone because he had pleaded
guilty, but in regard to Sandford expressed their readiness to comply,
himself in £60, and two respectable householders in £30 each.
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Kentish Express 22 December 1866
Re. Godfrey Lepper: The first sitting for the proof of debts and choice
of trade assignees, under this bankruptcy took place before Mr.
Registrar Roche, on Wednesday. The bankrupt, who was described as of the
"Raglan Tavern," 1, Dover Street, Folkestone, builder, contractor, and
licensed victualler, attributed his bankruptcy to his inability to sell
or let the property built by himself. The total amount of the bankrupt's
debt is £1,300, unsecured due to creditors residing at Folkestone,
Faversham, Canterbury, and Dover, and to creditors holding security
about £2,500. Mr. James Homer Bushell (of the firm of Nightingale and
Co.), Dover, brick merchant, was chosen assignee, and a majority of the
creditors having resolved to take the proceedings out of Court under the
110th Section of the Bankruptcy Act, 1861, the sitting was adjourned, in
order that an application might be made to Mr. Commissioner Wimslow to
stay further proceedings. It was stated that the bankrupt's assets are
sufficient to pay 20s. in the £. Enlarged protection from arrest was
granted the bankrupt until the next sitting.
Police Court, Monday: Before R.W. Boarer Esq.
William Barker was charged with being on the premises of Messrs.
Dickenson, brewers, for an unlawful purpose.
P.C. Swaine deposed that he was on duty in Tontine Street that morning
about one o'clock, and saw a man loitering near the brewery. Directly
afterwards the man scaled the gates, which were locked, and got over.
Witness waited a few minutes, and Sergt. Newman came along. They then
got over and found prisoner pretending to be asleep in one of the
outhouses. Witness left Sergt. Newman in charge of the prisoner, who had
been in Messrs. Dickenson's employ, and went to the private house to
alarm the inmates. One of the assistants came back with him and gave
prisoner into custody. On searching him 2s. was found on him.
Watson Martin deposed that he accompanied the last witness at half past
one o'clock that morning to the brewhouse, where prisoner was asleep in
one of the outhouses where straw is kept. On rousing him, without
getting any answer from him as to why he was there, he gave him into
custody. Prisoner had been in their service as engineer till about a
month since, when he was discharged for drunkenness. He was afterwards
taken on as a labourer, and discharged on Saturday. Witness stated that
Messrs. Dickenson had no desire to be harsh, and that if the case were
reduced to one of vagrancy and prisoner sent for a week or two with hard
labour as a warning to others they would be satisfied.
Prisoner was discharged.
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Kentish Express 22 December 1866
Police Court, Wednesday: Before The Mayor (J. Gambill Esq.), R.W. Boarer
and J. Kelcey Esqs..
Thomas Sandford and Edward Stone, alias Bayley, were charged with
stealing two boxes of cigars, value 25s., the property of Godfrey
Lepper, of the Raglan Tavern, on Sunday, the 16th inst.
Godfrey Lepper deposed that the prisoners were at his house on Sunday
afternoon just after five o'clock. They were in the bar, Bayley sitting
down, Sandford standing up by the counter. They remained there the
greater part of the evening. Before they left he missed two boxes of
cigars from a shelf by the clock in the bar, which were there when he
closed the house at five minutes past three that afternoon. The shelf is
eight feet from the ground, and cannot be reached except by standing on
the counter. He did not accuse prisoners of taking the cigars, but asked
his wife if she had taken them down. She said she had not; neither of
the prisoners answered. Supt. Martin brought the loose cigars produced
tied up in a handkerchief to him at half past eight o'clock the evening
before. They were the same which had been stolen; he identified them by
the ribbon that tied them. He accompanied the Supt. To the prisoner
Stone's house, in Charlotte Place, and found two bundles of cigars
buried in the garden at the back. He saw Sandford in custody at the
police station, and heard him say “Stone took the cigars and gave them
to me.” Saw Stone arrested: at first he said he was innocent, but when
shown the cigars taken from Sandford's garden admitted that he had taken
them, and that the others were concealed in a heap of shavings.
By Sandford: There are other cigars in the town like those, but I know
that these are the ones that were stolen.
Robert Fisher, landlord of the Black Bull, said he knew both prisoners
well. Sandford lived about fourteen yards from him. About four o'clock
on the previous afternoon, as he was out in his meadow, looking at the
sheep, he saw in the dyke between his meadow and that of Sandford, a
bundle, which on opening he found to be the loose cigars produced. There
were ninety six cigars, which he handed over to P.C. Sharpe.
Henry Newman, bricklayer, said he was in Stone's company on Sunday
afternoon at the Raglan Tavern. Prosecutor on Monday told him the cigars
were stolen, and afterwards he met Stone, and told him that Lepper said
if he would return them he would forgive him. Stone said he “hadn't had
them.” He then said Lepper was going to send a policeman after Sandford
and Stone asked what had Sandford done with his box of cigars?
P.C. Reynolds said he went to Sandford's house, charged him with
stealing the cigars, and took him into custody. Sandford said “I don't
know anything about it.” On the way to the police station witness told
him some cigars had been found at the back of his premises. At the
police station Supt. Martin charged him and he said “Stone took them and
gave them to me.” Afterwards apprehended Stone who said he was innocent,
and that the house might be searched, and no cigars could be found. He
brought him to the police station, where Stanford repeated before him
his statement that Stone had taken the cigars and given them to him.
Stone afterwards said “I took 'em, and you'll find mine buried in the
garden at the back of my house, in a handkerchief under some shavings.”
Witness went and found the cigars as he said.
Supt. Marin gave corroborative evidence.
Stone pleaded guilty: Sandford refused to plead, and both prisoners were
committed for trial at the Quarter Sessions. Prisoners applied to be
released on bail, which was refused to Stone, but offered to Sandford if
he could find sureties, himself in £60 and two householders at £30 each.
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Dover Chronicle 5 January 1867
Quarter Sessions, Thursday last: Before J.J. Lonsdale Esq.
The Grand Jury brought in a true bill against Edward Stone for stealing
two boxes of cigars, the property of Godfrey Lepper, at Folkestone, on
the 16th of December, 1866, and also against Thomas Sandford for
stealing two boxes of cigars, the property of Godfrey Lepper, at
Folkestone, on the 16th of December. The Grand Jury were then
discharged.
Edward Stone pleaded guilty to the charge, and also to a previous
conviction of felony on the 9th of July, 1857. Thos Stanford pleaded not
guilty.
The foreman of the Grand Jury here interrupted the proceedings, and said
that they intended it to be a true bill against Thomas Sandford for
receiving the stolen articles, but no true bill for stealing them. The
Recorder said that as they were now discharged their decision could not
be altered. Mr. Minter appeared for the defence. The Recorder said he
did not like to give judgement with no advocate for the prisoner.
Godfrey Lepper said on oath: I am a carpenter and landlord of the Raglan
Tavern, Folkestone. I remember Sunday afternoon, the 16th of December. I
missed two boxes of cigars from a shelf, which stood in the bar at a
distance of about eight feet from the floor. I last saw them at about
three in the afternoon, and I missed them at about half past six in the
evening. The prisoner Sandford was standing in the bar about five
o’clock on the same afternoon. He was standing outside the counter. I
saw him several times afterwards during the evening. I do not remember
seeing him go out. I saw the prisoner Stone there too. He was sitting
down. I next saw the cigars when Superintendent Martin brought them to
me on the next Tuesday evening. They were then tied up in a red
handkerchief. There were two kinds of cigars. I compared them with some
I had by me. It is only from the general appearance that I believe them
to be mine. I heard Sandford say at the police station, in the presence
of Stone, that he (Stone) had taken them and given them to him. Stone
then said that we would find the other cigars in his garden, and
accordingly police constable Reynolds, Superintendent Martin and myself
went and found the cigars there, and Superintendent Martin took charge
of them.
Cross-examined by Mr. Minter: There were several people going in and out
of the bar on that afternoon. Some of the cigars have been in my house
11 months and three weeks, and the rest about five months. I was
adjudicated bankrupt on the 28th October last and I have not received my
discharge.
Robert Fisher said: I am landlord of the Black Bull. I live near the
prisoner Sandford. I found the cigars produced wrapped in a handkerchief
and paper in a ditch between my field and Sandford’s garden. I kept them
till police constable Sharpe fetched them.
Cross-examined by Mr. Minter: Prisoner lives next door to me. I have
known him for three or four years and he has always borne a good
character.
Richard Sharpe deposed: I am a police constable in the borough of
Folkestone force. I received the cigars produced from last witness, and
handed them over to Supt. Martin.
John Reynolds said: I am a police constable in the Folkestone force. In
consequence of information received I went to the prisoner Sandford’s
house. I charged him with stealing two boxes of cigars, the property of
Mr. Lepper, on the Sunday evening. He said he knew nothing about it. On
the way to the station I told him there had been some cigars found at
the back of his premises. He made no answer. At the station house Supt.
Martin laid the cigars on the table and charged him with stealing them.
Prisoner then said “Stone took them and gave them to me.”
Cross-examined by Mr. Minter: I have known the prisoner for some years,
and as far as I know he has borne a good character. On the way to the
station house I think I said something to the prisoner about Stone being
charged with stealing the cigars.
William Martin deposed: I am Superintendent in the Folkestone force. One
of the lots of cigars produced was given me by P.C. Sharpe and the other
lot I saw dug up in Stone’s garden. They have been in my possession ever
since. After cautioning Sandford I charged him with stealing the cigars,
and showed him those which had been found at the back of his premises,
asking him if he could give any explanation about them. He said “Stone
took them and gave them to me.”
Mr. Minter objected to this on the ground that the showing of the cigars
was really holding out a species of threat.
The Recorder said he could not entertain the objection. It was a very
common mode to ask for an explanation as to how certain things were
obtained.
Cross-examined by Mr. Minter: I have known the prisoner for a number of
years. He is living with his parents and bears a good character. I have
never had the prisoner in custody before.
Mr. Minter then addressed the court for the defence. He apprehended that
there would be very little doubt in the minds of the jury that the
prisoner did not steal the cigars, because the other prisoner had
confessed to the theft, and it was scarcely likely that Stone would
plead guilty to a theft which he had not committed. For the next point,
namely that of receiving the stolen articles, he would ask for their
careful consideration of one or two points. For the sake of argument he
would never admit that Sandford had received the cigars from Stone, then
came the question, at the moment Sandford received the cigars from
Stone, did he know they were stolen? If he did not, and even if he found
out afterwards that they were stolen he would not be guilty of receiving
goods knowing them to be stolen. He apprehended that they would find a
difficulty in saying that at the time Sandford received the cigars from
Stone he really knew them to be stolen, and if they could not say that
they could not find him guilty of receiving stolen articles. The
conclusion he (Mr. Minter) drew from the evidence was that Sandford
certainly received the cigars from Stone, but that he received them
innocently as a gift, not knowing them to be stolen, but that he (Sandford)
found out afterwards that they were stolen, and instead of taking a
proper course and handing the cigars over to the authorities, very
foolishly threw them away. It was perfectly true that Sandford had
received the cigars from Stone because Stone himself had not denied it.
They heard that Sandford said in Stone’s presence “Stone took them and
gave them to me.” Now it would probably be inferred from that that
Stanford received the cigars knowing them to have been stolen by Stone,
but he did not think so, and for this reason: when he was charged with
stealing the cigars he said “I know nothing about it.” Afterwards
Reynolds admits that he mentioned to the prisoner that Stone had stolen
some cigars. He wished them to take particular notice of that fact,
because it would show that what the prisoner said afterwards was
evidently the effect of what Reynolds had said to him. They had heard
that when the prisoner reached the station house the cigars were put
before him and he was asked what explanation he could give of them, and
the reply was “Stone took them and gave them to me.” Here then was the
effect of what Reynolds had said. He knew from Reynolds, not from being
present at the theft, that Stone had stolen the cigars and therefore
very naturally concluded, knowing that the cigars taken from behind his
premises had been stolen, that Stone was charged with stealing cigars,
and that those cigars had been given to him by Stone, that “Stone had
taken them and given them to him.” He thought if the jury reflected on
the matter they could not but attach that meaning to the words, and
furthermore they had heard from nearly all the witnesses that the
prisoner bore a good character, and therefore of there was any doubt in
their minds, it was but fair that they should let character weigh in his
favour, and give him the benefit of a doubt. He had not dwelt on the
fact of their being in the public house, because they had heard from the
prosecutor that there were a great many people in the house, and it was
quite possible that they happened to be there together. With these
remarks he would leave the case in their hands.
The Recorder then addressed the jury. He said that the prisoner was
charged with two things, first with stealing and then with receiving
stolen goods. The confession of an accomplice was no evidence and
therefore the fact of the prisoner Stone pleading guilty to the theft
must not weigh with them. The evidence in regard to the theft simply
showed that the prisoner was in the house of the prosecutor about the
time the cigars were lost, and that the stolen cigars were found in a
ditch bordering on the prisoner’s garden at the back of his premises. If
therefore they considered that the cigars were there with the prisoner’s
knowledge, it was for them to judge whether the way in which he
accounted for the possession of them was satisfactory or not. If they
(the jury) came to the conclusion that the prisoner’s account of how he
came by them was not satisfactory, then they were allowed to come to the
conclusion that he had stolen them. If they came to the conclusion that
he had not stolen them, it was for them to decide whether when the
prisoner said “Stone stole them and gave them to me,” he meant “I know
Stone stole them and gave them to me,” or whether he meant he received
them from Stone not knowing them to have been stolen, but inferred that
Stone had taken them from what Reynolds had said. They should also
remember that when he was told that the cigars had been found at the
back of prisoner’s premises he made no answer. Whether he did not hear,
whether he did not choose to answer, or whether it was some evidence of
guilty knowledge it was for them to decide. It was his duty to tell them
that in cases of doubt character would go a great way, but they must not
let character go too far. Because a man had borne a good character it
did not follow that he was incapable of an offence. If there was a doubt
they should give the prisoner the benefit of that doubt.
The jury then retired, and after an absence of about ten minutes,
returned and gave a verdict of not guilty, and the prisoner was
accordingly discharged.
The Recorder, addressing the prisoner Stone, said: You have been
convicted before, on your own confession, of felony; that, coupled with
this, makes the offence a serious one. He (the Recorder) had power to
inflict a term of penal servitude. He had led Sandford, who since he had
been discharged, it was his (the Recorder’s) duty to consider innocent,
into a scrape which might have turned out seriously. His pleading
guilty, and thereby saving expense, was certainly a little in his
favour, but, taking all in all, he should consider it his duty to pass a
sentence, though not of penal servitude, yet of imprisonment for twelve
calendar months, with hard labour.
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Kentish Express 5 January 1867
Quarter Sessions, Thursday: Before J.J. Lonsdale Esq.
Edward Stone pleaded guilty, and Thomas Sandford pleaded not guilty to
an indictment charging them with stealing, on the 16th Dec. last, two
boxes of cigars, value 25s., the property of Godfrey Lepper; and the
latter prisoner also pleaded not guilty to a second count, charging him
with receiving the same, knowing them to have been stolen. Mr. Minter
appeared for the prisoner Sandford.
Just as the trial commenced, the Grand Jury, who had been discharged on
their bringing in true bills against these prisoners, as there were no
other cases, said they only meant to return a true bill on the second
count against Sandford; but on examination the whole bill was found to
be endorsed as a true bill, and the Recorder said, as they had been
discharged, he could not take notice of the mistake.
As the evidence was fully given but a fortnight since we will no
recapitulate it here. The facts of the case were that both prisoners
were in the prosecutor’s house, the Raglan Tavern, on Sunday, the 16th
Dec., nearly all the afternoon and evening. During that time prosecutor
missed two boxes of cigars from a high shelf in the bar. On Tuesday
evening the contents of one box were found in a ditch by the side of
Sandford’s garden, and given to the police, and the contents of the
other box found in Stone’s garden in some shavings. After the prisoners
were taken into custody, and when they were at the police station,
Sandford said before Stone and three of the witnesses “Stone took them
and gave them to me,” although previously he had denied all knowledge of
the cigars.
After an ingenious defence by Mr. Minter, the learned recorder summed
up, and the jury retired to consider their verdict. After some interval
they returned into court with a verdict of “not guilty” to the surprise
of everyone in court.
Stone, who had a previous conviction recorded against him, was then
sentenced to twelve months imprisonment, with hard labour.
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Maidstone Journal 7 January 1867
Quarter Sessions, Thursday: Before J.J. Lonsdale Esq.
Edward Stone pleaded guilty, and Thomas Sandford pleaded not guilty, to
an indictment charging them with stealing, on the 16th Dec. last, two
boxes of cigars, value 25s., the property of Godfrey Lepper. After
hearing the facts of the case the jury retired to consider their verdict
and returned into court with a verdict of not guilty, to the surprise of
everyone in court. Stone, who had a previous conviction recorded against
him, was then sentenced to twelve months imprisonment, with hard labour.
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Canterbury Weekly Journal, Faversham Mercury,
Whitstable Times 12 January 1867
Quarter Sessions, Thursday: Before J.J. Lonsdale Esq.
Edward Stone pleaded guilty, and Thomas Sandford not guilty to an indictment
charging them with stealing, on the 16th December last, two boxes of cigars,
value 25s., the property of Godfrey Lepper; and the latter prisoner also pleaded
not guilty to a second count, charging him with receiving the same, knowing them
to have been stolen. Mr. Minter appeared for the prisoner Sandford.
Just as the trial commenced, the Grand Jury, who had been discharged on their
bringing in true bills against these prisoners, as there were no other cases,
said they only meant to return a true bill on the second count against Sandford;
but on examination the whole bill was found to be endorsed as a true bill, and
the Recorder said, as they had been discharged, he could not take notice of the
mistake.
The facts of the case were that both prisoners were in the prosecutor’s house,
the Raglan Tavern, on Sunday, the 16th December, nearly all the afternoon and
evening. During that time prosecutor missed two boxes of cigars from a high
shelf in the bar. On Tuesday evening the contents of one box were found in a
ditch by the side of Sandford’s garden, and given to the police, and the
contents of the other box found in Stone’s garden in some shavings. After the
prisoners were taken into custody, and when they were at the police station,
Sandford said before Stone and three of the witnesses “Stone took them and gave
them to me,” although previously he had denied all knowledge of the cigars.
Mr. Minter addressed the jury in defence of his client, urging that he received
the cigars as a gift without the slightest knowledge or suspicion that they were
stolen.
The jury returned a verdict of not guilty.
Stone, who had pleaded guilty, was sentenced to twelve months hard labour.
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Dover Express 8 February 1867
Advertisement Extract:
Valuable Freehold and Leasehold Property
........ A Public House, known as the Lord Raglan in a most commanding
situation in Dover Street, and near to the South Eastern Railway
Station.
Messrs. Worsfold and Hayward have received instruction from the
Assignees, under a Deed Of Assignment for the benefit of the creditors
of Mr. Godfrey Lepper, to offer for sale by public competition, at the
Lord Raglan Tavern, Dover Street, Folkestone, on Thursday February 28th,
1867, at two for three o’clock precisely, the above property.
Lot 1: The Lord Raglan Tavern, a free Public House, in a most commanding
situation, near the Junction Station of the South Eastern Railway,
having a double frontage to Dover Street and Mill Lane, recently
erected, and from its undeniable position certain to command a large
trade. The house contains on the Basement, large cellar, kitchen,
scullery, W.C., coal and wine cellars; on the Ground Floor, bar, bar
parlour, counting house, and tap room. On the First Floor, club room,
bagatelle room, and bedroom, with seven bedrooms and W.C. above; and is
now in the occupation of Mr. G. Lepper. Possession could be had
immediately on completion of the purchase.
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Dover Chronicle 9 February 1867
Police Court, Wednesday: Before R.W. Boarer, James Kelcey, and Wm.
Bateman Esqs.
William Henry Jacob applied for temporary authority to sell liquors
under the license granted to Mr. J.B. Tolputt, at the Albion Hotel,
Bouverie Square.
The application was granted.
Advertisement Extract:
Valuable Freehold and Leasehold Property
........ A Public House, known as the Lord Raglan in a most commanding
situation in Dover Street, and near to the South Eastern Railway
Station.
Messrs. Worsfold and Hayward have received instruction from the
Assignees, under a Deed Of Assignment for the benefit of the creditors
of Mr. Godfrey Lepper, to offer for sale by public competition, at the
Lord Raglan Tavern, Dover Street, Folkestone, on Thursday February 28th,
1867, at two for three o’clock precisely, the above property.
Lot 1: The Lord Raglan Tavern, a free Public House, in a most commanding
situation, near the Junction Station of the South Eastern Railway,
having a double frontage to Dover Street and Mill Lane, recently
erected, and from its undeniable position certain to command a large
trade. The house contains on the Basement, large cellar, kitchen,
scullery, W.C., coal and wine cellars; on the Ground Floor, bar, bar
parlour, counting house, and tap room. On the First Floor, club room,
bagatelle room, and bedroom, with seven bedrooms and W.C. above; and is
now in the occupation of Mr. G. Lepper. Possession could be had
immediately on completion of the purchase.
Lot 1 is held under a lease from the Earl of Radnor, for a term of 99
years, from the 29th of September, 1864, at an annual Ground Rent of £5.
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Maidstone Journal 9 February 1867
Advertisement Extract:
Valuable Freehold and Leasehold Property
........ A Public House, known as the Lord Raglan in a most commanding
situation in Dover Street, and near to the South Eastern Railway
Station.
Messrs. Worsfold and Hayward have received instruction from the
Assignees, under a Deed Of Assignment for the benefit of the creditors
of Mr. Godfrey Lepper, to offer for sale by public competition, at the
Lord Raglan Tavern, Dover Street, Folkestone, on Thursday February 28th,
1867, at two for three o’clock precisely, the above property.
Lot 1: The Lord Raglan Tavern, a free Public House, in a most commanding
situation, near the Junction Station of the South Eastern Railway,
having a double frontage to Dover Street and Mill Lane, recently
erected, and from its undeniable position certain to command a large
trade. The house contains on the Basement, large cellar, kitchen,
scullery, W.C., coal and wine cellars; on the Ground Floor, bar, bar
parlour, counting house, and tap room. On the First Floor, club room,
bagatelle room, and bedroom, with seven bedrooms and W.C. above; and is
now in the occupation of Mr. G. Lepper. Possession could be had
immediately on completion of the purchase.
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Southeastern Gazette 12 February 1867
Advertisement: A rare opportunity for a man of small means. The Pavilion
Shades, Folkestone, to be let, with immediate possession. The incoming
tenant need only take the fixtures. Apply to J. Peden, 10, Marine
Terrace, Folkestone.
Advertisement Extract:
Valuable Freehold and Leasehold Property
........ A Public House, known as the Lord Raglan in a most commanding
situation in Dover Street, and near to the South Eastern Railway
Station.
Messrs. Worsfold and Hayward have received instruction from the
Assignees, under a Deed Of Assignment for the benefit of the creditors
of Mr. Godfrey Lepper, to offer for sale by public competition, at the
Lord Raglan Tavern, Dover Street, Folkestone, on Thursday February 28th,
1867, at two for three o’clock precisely, the above property.
Lot 1: The Lord Raglan Tavern, a free Public House, in a most commanding
situation, near the Junction Station of the South Eastern Railway,
having a double frontage to Dover Street and Mill Lane, recently
erected, and from its undeniable position certain to command a large
trade. The house contains on the Basement, large cellar, kitchen,
scullery, W.C., coal and wine cellars; on the Ground Floor, bar, bar
parlour, counting house, and tap room. On the First Floor, club room,
bagatelle room, and bedroom, with seven bedrooms and W.C. above; and is
now in the occupation of Mr. G. Lepper. Possession could be had
immediately on completion of the purchase.
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Kentish Gazette 12 February 1867.
Auction advertisement extract: Messrs. Worsfold and Hayward have
received instructions from the assignees, under a Deed of Assignment
for the benefit of the creditors of Mr. Godfrey Lepper to offer for
sale by public competition, at the Lord Raglan Tavern, Dover Street,
Folkestone, on Thursday, February 28th, 1867, at two for three
o'clock precisely.
Lot 1:The Lord Raglan Tavern, a free Public-house in a commanding
situation, near the Junction Station of the South-Eastern Railway,
having a double frontage to Dover Street and Mill Lane, recently
erected, and from its undeniable position certain to command a large
trade. The house contains on the basement, large cellar, kitchen,
scullery, W.C., coal and wine cellars; on the ground floor, bar, bar
parlour, counting-house, and tap-room; on the first floor,
club-room, bagatelle room, and bedroom; with seven bedrooms and W.C.
above; and is now in the occupation of Mr. G. Lepper. Possession
could be had immediately upon completion of the purchase.
Lot 1 is held under a lease from the Earl of Radnor, for a term
of 99 years, from 29th September, 1864, at an annual Ground Rent of
£5.
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Dover Express 15 February 1867
Advertisement
Notice of sale of the carcases of two 8 roomed houses in Mill Lane,
which under instructions received from the Assignees under the Deed of
Assignment for the benefit of the creditors of Mr. Godfrey Lepper, will
be sold by auction by Messrs. Worsfold and Hayward:
At the "Lord Raglan Tavern," Dover Street, on Thursday, Feb. 28th, 1867,
at 2 for 3 o’clock precisely, unless previously disposed of privately.
The carcases, which adjoin the Lord Raglan Tavern, are substantially
built and roofed in, and the flooring is partly laid down. The land is
held under lease from the Earl of Radnor for a term of 99 years, from
the 29th September, 1864, at an annual ground rent for each house of £4.
The carcases can be viewed by applying at the "Lord Raglan," and further
particulars obtained of Messrs. Worsfold and Hayward, Surveyors, and
Estate Agents, New Bridge, Dover; of J.F. Holmes Esq., Solicitor, 6,
Milk Street, Cheapside; or of George Milman Esq., Solicitor, 9,
Southampton Buildings, Chancery Lane, London.
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Dover Telegraph 16 February 1867
Advertisement Extract:
Valuable Freehold and Leasehold Property
........ A Public House, known as the Lord Raglan in a most commanding situation
in Dover Street, and near to the South Eastern Railway Station.
Messrs. Worsfold and Hayward have received instruction from the
Assignees, under a Deed Of Assignment for the benefit of the creditors
of Mr. Godfrey Lepper, to offer for sale by public competition, at the
Lord Raglan Tavern, Dover Street, Folkestone, on Thursday February 28th,
1867, at two for three o’clock precisely, the above property.
Lot 1: The Lord Raglan Tavern, a free Public House, in a most commanding
situation, near the Junction Station of the South Eastern Railway, having a
double frontage to Dover Street and Mill Lane, recently erected, and from its
undeniable position certain to command a large trade. The house contains on the
Basement, large cellar, kitchen, scullery, W.C., coal and wine cellars; on the
Ground Floor, bar, bar parlour, counting house, and tap room. On the First
Floor, club room, bagatelle room, and bedroom, with seven bedrooms and W.C.
above; and is now in the occupation of Mr. G. Lepper. Possession could be had
immediately on completion of the purchase.
Lot 1 is held under a lease from the Earl of Radnor, for a term of 99
years, from the 29th of September, 1864, at an annual Ground Rent of £5.
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Dover Telegraph, Kentish Express 23 February 1867
Advertisement
Notice of sale of the carcases of two 8 roomed houses in Mill Lane,
which under instructions received from the Assignees under the Deed of
Assignment for the benefit of the creditors of Mr. Godfrey Lepper, will
be sold by auction by Messrs. Worsfold and Hayward:
At the Lord Raglan Tavern, Dover Street, on Thursday, Feb. 28th, 1867,
at 2 for 3 o’clock precisely, unless previously disposed of privately.
The carcases, which adjoin the Lord Raglan Tavern, are substantially
built and roofed in, and the flooring is partly laid down. The land is
held under lease from the Earl of Radnor for a term of 99 years, from
the 29th September, 1864, at an annual ground rent for each house of £4.
The carcases can be viewed by applying at the Lord Raglan, and further
particulars obtained of Messrs. Worsfold and Hayward, Surveyors, and
Estate Agents, New Bridge, Dover; of J.F. Holmes Esq., Solicitor, 6,
Milk Street, Cheapside; or of George Milman Esq., Solicitor, 9,
Southampton Buildings, Chancery Lane, London.
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Dover Chronicle 20 November 1867, Dover Telegraph 23 November 1867
County Court, Monday: Before W.C. Scott Esq.
Jacobs v Jno. Davis: This was a claim for £4 16s., for money lent, and
for wine and spirits supplied. Mr. Minter appeared for the plaintiff.
Defendant made a counter-claim for lodgings, and pleaded that at the
time he had the spirits from Jacobs, who is proprietor of the Albion
Hotel, he (plaintiff) had no license to sell spirits, and that they were
presents made to him, and never intended to be charged for.
After going into the amounts, His Honour gave judgement for £3 12s. 7d.,
to be paid in three monthly instalments, and characterised the defence
of the spirits being presents as being frivolous in the extreme.
Jacobs v Frederick Graves: Claim for 8s. 6d. Defendant did not appear,
and an order made for payment forthwith.
English v Jacobs: Claims 25s. for an advertisement inserted in English’s
Time Tables, which defendant denied having ordered. Eventually judgement
was given for the plaintiff.
Godfrey Lepper v Joseph Memphis: Claim for £1 3s. 8d. goods supplied.
Defendant said he owed some; he did not know how much. The fact was he
used to go into the Raglan (plaintiff’s house) and sit there playing
cards from morning till night. This was for bread and cheese and beer.
He never kept no account. Order for 5s, per month, His Honour remarking
that such a case could not be brought after this year.
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Dover Express 22 November 1867, Kentish Express 23 November 1867
County Court, Monday: Before W.C. Scott Esq.
Jacobs v John Davis: This was a claim for £4 16s., for money lent, and
for wine and spirits supplied. Mr. Minter appeared for the plaintiff.
Defendant made a counter-claim for lodgings, and pleaded that at the
time he had the spirits from Jacobs, who is proprietor of the Albion
Hotel, he (plaintiff) had no license to sell spirits, and that they were
presents made to him, and never intended to be charged for.
After going into the amounts, His Honour gave judgement for £3 12s. 7d.,
to be paid in three monthly instalments, and characterised the defence
of the spirits being presents as being frivolous in the extreme.
Jacobs v Frederick Graves: Claim for 8s. 6d. Defendant did not appear,
and an order made for payment forthwith.
English v Jacobs: Claims 25s. for an advertisement inserted in English’s
Time Tables, which defendant denied having ordered. Eventually judgement
was given for the plaintiff.
Godfrey Lepper v Joseph Memphis: Claim for £1 3s. 8d., goods supplied.
Defendant said he owed some; he did not know how much. The fact was he
used to go into the Raglan (plaintiff’s house) and sit there playing
cards from morning till night. This was for bread and cheese and beer.
He never kept an account. Order for 5s, per month, His Honour remarking
that such a case could not be brought after this year.
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Kentish Gazette 22 December 1868.
Folkestone County Court: Kingsford, brewer of Dover, v. G.
Lepper, publican, of Folkestone.
The plaintiff brought the action to recover possession of a
public house called the "Earl Radnor" (sic), Dover Street, Folkestone,
of which he was the proprietor. The defendant was represented by Mr.
Minter, solicitor. Mr. Claris appeared for the plaintiff.
He said the circumstances were rather peculiar. In August last an
action was brought in this case, and his Honour gave a judgment in
favour of the plaintiff, who had bought the house when Mr. Lepper
was a bankrupt, and had re-let it to him. He also bought the fixtures
at the same time, and let the plaintiff have the use of them at an
annual rent. This was rather an unusual thing for a landlord to do,
but he was compelled almost to do so, and now the defendant wished
to extort a sum of money from the plaintiff for those very fixtures,
and because his client would not submit to this demand he would not
give up possession. He then produced the agreement and called Mr.
Kingsford, who said there was more than half a year’s rent due on
the 3rd of November.
By Mr. Minter: He had refused to supply the defendant with more
beer; the letter produced was in the handwriting of his son or
clerk.
By His Honour: The letter was sent after the judgment of the
Court in August, without his authority. It was a demand for rent,
but was a mistake altogether.
Mr. Minter said he would just observe that the fixtures were
bought for £30 when they were worth £130; and the money to purchase
them was lent to Mr. Lepper at £5 per cent interest, and if he
should sell them when he left the house for more than the purchase
money, he should have the difference. There was some doubt if his
Honour would have power to make the order if a half-year’s rent was
due. If that was so, the case could not succeed, as, for the
plaintiff to have the right to re-enter the condition must remain in
force. Mr. Kingsford could not, however, prove that a half-year’s
rent was due; there was only one quarter in arrears. His Honour made
an order for rent and possession in August; and since then a fresh
tenancy had commenced by a fresh demand for rent being made. Already
a judgment had been pronounced, and if the plaintiff did not choose
to enforce that judgment because of the consequences, he had no
right to come to the court and ask for a judgment to be pronounced
again on the same matter, or unless there was some new state of
circumstances.
Mr. Claris said he was almost ready to accept the proposition
that there was a fresh agreement.
His Honour thought the best thing they could do would be to act
on Mr. Minter's suggestion and enforce the last judgment. An
application was made for defendant’s costs, which were granted.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 29
September, 1871.
PUBLIC-HOUSE TO LET
The "Carpenter's Arms," Peter Street, Charlton, Dover; also the "Lord
Raglan," near the South-Eastern Railway Station, Folkestone. Apply to
Alfred Kingsford, Buckland Brewery, Dover.
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From The Dover Express, Friday, November 10, 1871.
PUBLIC-HOUSE TO LET.
THE "Lord Raglan," near the South-Eastern Railway Station,
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Folkestone, Hythe, Sandgate & Cheriton Herald, Saturday 6 May 1933.
Death of well-known licensee. Mr. Bert Twigg.
The death of Mr. H. G. Twigg, of the "Raglan Hotel," Dover Road, at his
residence on Friday evening last week, was learnt with deep regret by
members of the licensed trade.
Bert Twigg, as he was familiarly known, was 61 years of age, and had
held a licence during the past 13 years.
He had been in ill health for the past two years, and had undergone
several operations at the Royal Victoria Hospital. At one time he
appeared to have recovered, but after a relapse he did not regain good
health.
He was of an exceedingly jovial disposition, and was a striking figure.
He served in the Middlesex Regiment (Territorial Army) for a number of
years, reaching the rank of Sergeant-Major, and being awarded the Long
Service decoration.
In the trade he was an energetic worker, and a popular member of the
Folkestone and District Licensed Victuallers' Association. He was a
member of the committee for a number of years and at one time was
Chairman of the Association.
The deepest sympathy is extended to the widow and son in their sad
bereavement.
The Funeral.
The funeral took place at Canterbury on Monday.
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Any further information or indeed photographs would be appreciated.
Please email me at the address below.
Just been informed 24 January 2015, that the pub has been sold for
redevelopment into; you guess it; FLATS.
Latest news is I have heard the pub is apparently closed in September
2016.
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Dover Chronicle 21 April 1866
Police Court, Friday, April 20th: Before R.W. Boarer and J. Tolputt
Esqs.
John Bromley was summoned to show cause why he should not be bound over
to keep the peace towards James William Newman.
James William Newman said on Tuesday evening he was standing just below
the "Raglan Tavern," in Dover Street, talking to Mr. Lepper, when the
defendant came across and started abusing him. He said complainant had
taken a false oath against his brother in court, and that he would smash
his ---- head. That was the only threat he made, and he was afraid he
would carry it into execution.
Cross-examined: Did not laugh at him. Did not ask him to lend him 5s. on
Tuesday morning. Did not insult his father in court. Did not say he
would smash his pumpkin. Did not say he would fetch his brother back and
give them both twenty years.
Godfrey Lepper said he was a builder in Folkestone. On Tuesday evening
he was talking to Mr. Newman opposite the Raglan Tavern, in Dover
Street. Saw Mr. Newman come from the Raglan Tavern. Heard defendant say
Mr. Newman had taken a false oath, and when his brother was released he
should never drive another nail for him. Heard him say he would smash
Mr. Newman's ---- head.
The defendant said if complainant spoke the truth he was no more afraid
of him than he was of complainant, and he only did it to aggravate him.
The Bench ordered defendant to be bound on his own recognisance of £20,
and one surety in £10, to keep the peace for two months, and remarked
that if he advised his brother when he came out of prison not to return
to Mr. Newman's employ, it would be the worst advice he ever received,
for he would be brought before them again and receive a much longer term
of imprisonment.
The required surety having been found, the defendant was liberated.
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Folkestone Observer 24 August 1866.
Licensing Day.
The magistrates issued their licensing certificates on Wednesday to all
established publicans who applied for them, Mr. Morford, of the
Fountain, being the only pub who got a lecture, and that a not very
severe one. There were seven applications for new houses, and
certificates were granted for four, namely: The Rendezvous, Mr. S.
Hogben (another publican lost a £10 bet over this, we hear); Alexandra,
Mr. Spurrier: Raglan, Mr. Lepper; and a house in Bouverie Mews, Mr. J.
B. Tolputt.
Notes: If this is the first license for the Raglan it puts the accepted
date of 1864 into doubt. Also, no record of Tolputt having a license
anywhere. Could this, however, be the first license for the Albion
Hotel?
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Folkestone Chronicle 25 August 1866.
Licensing Day.
A Special Sessions was held at the Town Hall on Wednesday, for the
purpose of renewing old and granting new spirit licenses &c. The
magistrates present were Captain Kennicott R.N., James Tolputt and A.M.
Leith Esqs. There was a large attendance of publicans, some interest
being excited in consequence of strong opposition being raised against
the granting of several new licenses. The first business was to renew
old licenses, and about 70 names were called over alphabetically.
The third applicant was Mr. Godfrey Lepper, for a license to the Raglan
Tavern, a house recently erected in the Dover Road, to which no special
opposition was offered.
The court was then cleared for a short time, and on the re-admission of
the public Captain Kennicott said the magistrates had decided on
granting a license to Mr. Lepper.
Note: The granting of the license for the Raglan seems to throw doubt on
the 1864 date claimed in More Bastions.
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Dover Chronicle 25 August 1866
The next application was by Godfrey Lepper for a house for a license to
a new house named the "Raglan" on the Dover Road. This place is handsomely
fitted up with a bar, and everything necessary for the trade. There was
no opposition.
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Southeastern Gazette 28 August 1866.
Local News.
Wednesday last was the annual licensing day, when the magistrates on the
bench were Capt. Kennicott, R.N., J. Tolputt and A. M. Leith Esqrs.
All the old licenses were renewed. There were seven applications for new
licences namely, Mr. Hogben for the Rendezvous, in Broad Street, (lately
opened as a luncheon bar); Mr. Spurrier, for the Alexandra, in Harbour
Street; Mr. Lepper, for a new house, the Raglan Tavern, in Dover Road;
Mr. J. B. Tolputt, for a house in Bouverie Square; Mr. Elliott for the
Gun, Cheriton- Road; Mr. Tite, for the Shakespeare, Cheriton Row; and
Mr. Mullett, for the Star, in Seagate Street. The Bench granted licences
to the four first-named, and refused the other applications. Mr. J.
Minter presented a petition signed by all the publicans in the town
against new licences, and appeared specially to oppose the granting of
licences to the Rendezvous and Star.
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Folkestone Chronicle 15 December 1866.
Court Of Bankruptcy, London.
Wednesday December 12th (Before Mr. Registrar Roche).
Re. Godfrey Lepper – This was the first sitting for the proof of debts
and choice of trade assignees, under the bankruptcy of Godfrey Lepper,
described as of the Raglan Tavern, 1, Dover Street, corner of Mill Lane,
Folkestone, in the county of Kent, Builder, Contractor, and Licensed
Victualler.
Mr. J.F. Holmes, solicitor, 6, Milk Street, Cheapside, appeared for the
bankrupt, who petitioned the court on the 28th day of November last,
attributing his bankruptcy to the following cause, viz: inability to
sell or let the property built by bankrupt. The total amount of his
debts is £1300 unsecured, due to creditors residing in Folkestone,
Faversham, Canterbury and Dover; and to creditors holding security about
£2500, making an aggregate of about £3800.
After the admission of a number of proofs, Mr. J. Homer Bushell (of the
firm of Nightingale and Company), of Dover, brick merchant, was chosen
assignee, and a majority of the creditors having resolved to take the
proceedings out of court under the 110th section of the Bankruptcy Act,
1863, the Registrar reported that the resolution was duly carried, and
adjourned the sitting till Saturday next, in order that an application
might be made to Mr. Commissioner Winslow to stay further proceedings.
It was stated to the reporter that the bankrupt's assets are sufficient
to pay 20s. in the £.
Enlarged protection from arrest was granted the bankrupt until the next
sitting, and the proceedings ended.
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Southeastern Gazette 18 December 1866.
Local News.
Re Godfrey Lepper: The first sitting for the proof of debts and choice
of trade assignees under this bankruptcy took place before Mr. Registrar
Roche, on Wednesday last.
The bankrupt, who was described as of the Raglan Tavern, No. 1, Dover
Street, Folkestone, builder, contractor, and licensed victualler,
attributed his bankruptcy to inability to sell or let the property built
by himself. The total amount of the bankrupt’s debts is £1,300 unsecured
due to creditors residing at Folkestone, Faversham, Canterbury, and
Dover, and to creditors holding security about £2,600. Mr. James Homer
Bushell (of the firm of Nightingale and Co.), Dover, brick merchant, was
chosen assignee, and a majority of the creditors having resolved to take
the proceedings out of court under the 110th section of the Bankruptcy
Act, 1861, the sitting was adjourned, in order that an application might
be made to Mr. Commissioner Winslow to stay further proceedings. It was
stated that the bankrupt's assets are sufficient to pay 20s. in the £.
Enlarged protection from arrest was granted the bankrupt until the next
sitting.
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Dover Express 21 December 1866
Police Court, Monday: Before R.W. Boarer Esq.
Re. Godfrey Lepper: The first sitting for the proof of debts and choice
of trade assignees, under this bankruptcy took place before Mr.
Registrar Roche, on Wednesday. The bankrupt, who was described as of the
Raglan Tavern, 1, Dover Street, Folkestone, builder, contractor, and
licensed victualler, attributed his bankruptcy to his inability to sell
or let the property built by himself. The total amount of the bankrupt's
debt is £1,300, unsecured due to creditors residing at Folkestone,
Faversham, Canterbury, and Dover, and to creditors holding security
about £2,500. Mr. James Homer Bushell (of the firm of Nightingale and
Co.), Dover, brick merchant, was chosen assignee, and a majority of the
creditors having resolved to take the proceedings out of Court under the
110th Section of the Bankruptcy Act, 1861, the sitting was adjourned, in
order that an application might be made to Mr. Commissioner Wimslow to
stay further proceedings. It was stated that the bankrupt's assets are
sufficient to pay 20s. in the £. Enlarged protection from arrest was
granted the bankrupt until the next sitting.
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Folkestone Chronicle 22 December 1866.
Wednesday December 19th:- Before the Mayor, R.W. Boarer and J. Kelcey
Esqs.
Thomas Sandford and Edward Stone, alias Bayley, were charged with
stealing two boxes of cigars, value 25s., the property of Godfrey Lepper,
of the Raglan Tavern, on Sunday the 16th.
Godfrey Lepper deposed that the prisoners were at his house on Sunday
afternoon just after five o'clock, when he came back from the Harbour.
They were in the bar, Bayley sitting down, Sandford standing up by the
counter. They remained there the greater part of the evening. Before
they left he missed two boxes of cigars from a shelf by a clock in the
bar, which were there when he closed the house at five minutes past
three that afternoon. The shelf is eight feet from the ground, and
cannot be reached except by standing on the counter. He did not accuse
prisoners of taking the cigars, but asked his wife if she had taken them
down. She said not, but neither of the prisoners answered.
Superintendent Martin brought the loose cigars produced tied up in a
handkerchief to him at half past eight o'clock last evening. They were
his property, and the same as had been stolen on Sunday last. He
identified them by the ribbon that tied them. He accompanied the
Superintendent to the prisoner Stone's house, at a quarter to eleven
o'clock, in Charlotte Place. I found two bundles of cigars buried in the
garden at the back. He saw Sandford in custody at the police station and
heard him say “Stone took the cigars and gave them to me”. Saw Stone
arrested: at first he said he was innocent, but when shown those taken
from Sandford's garden, admitted that he had taken them, and that the
others were concealed in a heap of shavings.
Cross-examined by the prisoner Sandford: There are other cigars in the
town like those, but I know these are the ones that were stolen.
Robert Fisher, landlord of the Black Bull said he knew both prisoners
well. Sandford lives about fourteen yards from him. About four o'clock
on the previous afternoon, as he was out in his meadow looking at the
sheep, he saw in the dyke between his meadow and that of Sandford's a
bundle, which on opening he found to be the loose cigars produced. There
were 96 cigars, which he handed over to the police.
P.C. Sharpe said that last evening at seven o'clock he went to the Black
Bull Inn, and received from the last witness the cigars, which he gave
to Supt. Martin.
Henry Newman, a bricklayer, said he knew both the prisoners. He was in
Stone's company on Sunday afternoon at the Raglan Tavern at twenty
minutes to three o'clock. He saw prosecutor on Monday morning, who told
him the cigars were stolen, and afterwards he met Stone and told him
that Lepper said if he would return them he would forgive him. Stone
said he hadn't had them. He then said Lepper was going to send a
policeman after Sandford, and Stone asked what had Sandford done with
his box of cigars?
P.C. Reynolds said: from information received he went last evening about
eight o'clock to the prisoner Sandford's house, charged him with
stealing the cigars, and took him into custody. Sandford said “I don't
know nothing about it”. He took him to the police station, and on the
way there told him some cigars had been found at the back of his
premises. At the police station Supt. Martin charged him and he said
“Stone took them and gave them to me”. Afterwards apprehended Stone at
his house in Charlotte Place, about ten o'clock, and charged him with
the robbery, but he said he was innocent, and that the house might be
searched, and no cigars could be found. He brought him to the police
station, where Sandford repeated before him his statement that Stone had
taken the cigars and given them to him. Stone afterwards said “I took 'em
and you'll find mine buried in the garden at the back of my house, in a
handkerchief under some shavings”. Witness went and found the cigars as
he said.
Supt. Martin deposed that he had received the first bundle of cigars
produced from P.C. Sharpe last evening, and the second bundle from P.C.
Reynolds. He had heard that constable's evidence, and it was correct as
far as regards the statement of the prisoners.
Stone pleaded Guilty. Sandford refused to plead. They were then formally
committed to the next Quarter Sessions, and applied to be released on
bail, but after a consultation the bench decided to refuse Stone, but
admitted Sandford – if he could find bail for £120 – himself in £60, and
two sureties of £30 each, thus practically refusing bail to both
prisoners.
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Folkestone Observer 22 December 1866.
Wednesday December 19th:- Before the Mayor, J. Kelcey and R.W. Boarer
Esqs.
William Sanford, 20, and Edward Stone, 28, were charged with stealing
some cigars.
Godfrey Lepper said: I am a carpenter, and landlord of the Raglan Tavern
at the corner of Mill Lane. I know both the prisoners. I saw the
prisoners in my house at five minutes past five on Sunday afternoon the
16th instant. They were in the bar. The prisoner Stone was sitting down
and the prisoner Sandford was leaning against the counter. They remained
there from half an hour to three quarters of an hour. Before they left I
missed two boxes of cigars from a shelf beside the clock in the bar. I
had seen them safe at five minutes past three o'clock in the afternoon.
Both the prisoners were in the bar at that time. The shelf is about
eight feet from the floor, and you have to get on the counter to reach
it. Superintendent Martin showed me some cigars last evening tied up in
a handkerchief. I compared the cigars with some which I had in a box,
and I am able to identify them as my property. The cigars produced are
the same cigars as those produced by Superintendent Martin showed me.
The value of the two boxes of cigars I lost is 25s. I went with
Superintendent Martin to the prisoner Stone's house in Charlotte Place
last evening about a quarter to eleven o'clock. P.C. Reynolds, who was
with us, dug a hole in the back garden by the wall, and found the
handkerchief now produced, containing two bundles of cigars. I identify
them by comparison with the other cigars that I have, and by the ribbon
with which they are tied up. I saw the prisoner Sandford in custody at
the station house last night about half past ten o'clock. I heard the
prisoner Sandford say Stone had taken the cigars and given them to him.
I was present at Stone's house when he was taken into custody by P.C.s
Woodlands and Reynolds, and accompanied them to the station house, where
we arrived about half past ten o'clock. I heard Stone say he was
innocent. When the cigars had been produced which had been taken from
Sandford, Stone then said he had taken the cigars, and told us we should
find the others at the back of his house in the garden.
Cross-examined by Sandford: I can swear that the cigars were my
property, and I have cigars in court with which they can be compared.
Robert Fisher said: I am landlord of the Black Bull. I know both the
prisoners. Sandford lives about forty rods from me. Last night about
four o'clock I was in my meadow at the back of my house, and happening
to turn my head I saw lying in the dyke between my meadow and Sandford's
garden a parcel tied up in a red and white cotton handkerchief. I took
it up and opened it, and found it to contain ninety six cigars and a
cork. I took them indoors and thought someone had taken them from my
house. My wife told me that P.C. Reynolds had been up the night before
enquiring about some cigars. I handed the cigars to P.C. Sharpe.
P.C. Sharpe said: I went to the Black Bull last night about seven
o'clock, and received from the last witness the parcel of cigars now
produced, which he said he had found at the top of the meadow near
Sandford's garden.
Henry Newman, bricklayer, living at No. 23, Darlington, said: I know
both the prisoners. I was in the company of Stone on Saturday, about
twenty minutes to three in the afternoon at the Raglan Tavern. On Monday
morning I saw Mr. Lepper, and he asked me if I knew anything about two
boxes of cigars, which he had missed on Sunday afternoon. I told him No.
He said “There were only you, Stone and Sandford there yesterday
afternoon”. Afterwards, while at work behind the Chequers, I saw Stone
and asked him if he knew anything about the cigars. He said No. I told
him if he had anything to do with them, if I was he, I would take them
back to save any farther bother, for Mr. Lepper said if they were taken
back he would forgive them. He said he knew nothing about them. I said
Mr. Lepper was going to send a policeman and have Sandford locked up. He
then said “What's he done with his box of cigars?”. I took him on one
side and told him if he had got the cigars and would let me have them I
would take them back to Mr. Lepper and try to make it up. He said he had
not got them.
Cross-examined by Stone: I believe I came and saw you on Monday morning.
It was not four o'clock in the afternoon.
Prisoner: I will settle up with him next year. I have nothing more to
ask him.
P.C. Reynolds said: Last evening about half past eight o'clock, from
information I received I went to the prisoner Sandfard's house. He came
and opened the door and I told him I wanted him to come with me, and I
charged him with stealing two boxes of cigars from Mr. Lepper on Sunday
evening. He said he knew nothing about it. I took him to the station. On
the road I told him there had been some cigars found at the back of his
premises. After I had him at the police station the Superintendent
charged him with stealing two boxes of cigars, and cautioned him as to
what he said. He then asked hm if he wished to give any explanation as
to the cigars that were placed on the table in front of him. He said
Stone took them and gave them to him. I afterwards, about ten o'clock,
apprehended Stone at his house in Charlotte Terrace. I charged him with
stealing two boxes of cigars at Mr. Lepper's house on Sunday evening. He
said he knew nothing about it; he was innocent. I asked him if he had
any cigars about his premises. He said No, he was innocent. I might
search the premises where I liked. I then took him into custody and
brought him to the police station. Superintendent Martin charged him
with stealing two boxes of cigars, and cautioned him as to what he had
to say. He fetched the prisoner Sandford out of the cell, put him in
front of Stone, laid the bundle of cigars on the table and the question
was asked Sandford if Stone did not give him the cigars. He said “Yes,
Stone took them and gave them to me”. Stone made no answer, but directly
afterwards Stone said “I took them, and you will find mine buried in a
garden at the back of my house, in a handkerchief, underneath some
shavings”. I went about a quarter to eleven last night and dug in the
garden, and found the bundle of cigars produced (a second bundle) tied
up in a handkerchief.
Superintendent Martin Said: I received the handkerchief, paper and
cigars produced (the first bundle) from P.C. Sharpe last evening; and
from P.C. Reynolds the handkerchief and two bundles of cigars now
produced (the second bundle). They have been in my possession since I
received them. I heard the deposition of Reynolds, and it is quite
correct so far as the statements made by the prisoners are concerned.
The prisoners being cautioned, Stone pleaded Guilty; Sandford said
nothing.
The bench then committed the prisoners for trial at the next quarter
sessions, and bound the witnesses to prosecute.
Both prisoners then applied to be permitted to give bail. The bench
refused to allow bail to Stone, who admitted his guilt, but would take
bail for Sandford in two sureties of £30 each and himself in £60.
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Canterbury Journal 29 December 1866
At the Police Court, on Wednesday, (before the Mayor, J. Gambrill Esq.;
R.W. Boarer and J. Kelcey Esqs.) Thomas Sandford and Edward Stone, alias
Bayley, were charged with stealing two boxes of cigars, value 25s., the
property of Godfrey Lepper, of the "Raglan Tavern," on Sunday, the 16th
instant. Stone pleaded guilty, Sandford refused to plead. They were then
formally committed to the next Quarter Sessions, and applied to be
released on bail, but after a consultation the bench decided to refuse
Stone, but admitted Sandford – if he could find bail for £120, himself
in £60 and two sureties of £30 each, thus practically refusing bail to
both prisoners.
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Folkestone Chronicle 5 January 1867.
Quarter Sessions.
Thursday January 3rd:- Before J.J. Lonsdale Esq.
Larceny.
The Grand Jury returned a true bill against Edward Stone and Thomas
Sandford for stealing on the 16th December last two boxes of cigars,
value 25s., the property of Godfrey Lepper, of the Raglan Tavern. A
second count charged Sandford with receiving the same, knowing them to
have been stolen.
This being all the business of the Grand Jury, the Recorder thanked them
for their attendance and discharged them.
The indictments having been read over to the prisoners, Stone pleaded
Guilty; Sandford Not Guilty to both counts. Mr. Minter appeared for the
prisoner Sandford.
The first witness, Godfrey Lepper, had been called, when the Grand Jury
returned and said there was some misunderstanding. They had found a true
bill against Sandford on the second count only, and thrown out the first
count – that of stealing. On reference to the bill, it was endorsed
“True Bill”, and the Recorder said he did not know what to do, the Grand
Jury being discharged, they were no longer in existence, and he could
not take notice of them.
The facts of the case having been fully recorded in our issue of a
fortnight since, it will only be necessary to give an outline of it.
Godfrey Lepper, the prosecutor, deposed that the prisoners were drinking
together in his house on Sunday afternoon and evening, the 16th
December. During that time two boxes of cigars were stolen from the bar,
where prisoners were. On Tuesday a bundle of cigars, wrapped in a
handkerchief, being half the quantity stolen, was found by Robert
Fisher, of the Black Bull Inn, in a ditch between his field and
Sandford's garden, and the rest of the cigars were found in Stone's
garden. On the prisoners being apprehended, Stone admitted taking them,
in the presence of the prosecutor, Superintendent Martin, and P.C.
Reynolds, at the police station, and at the same time Sandford said
“Stone took them, and gave them to me”.
While Supt. Martin was giving his evidence, Mr. Minter objected to his
repeating the words used by Sandford, as it was not a voluntary
statement, but the cigars were shown the prisoner, and he was asked what
explanation he could give.
The Recorder said there decidedly was nothing to prevent the prisoner's
words being given in evidence; there appeared to be no threat,
intimidation, or promise held out to him, but he said it after being
duly cautioned. The evidence might be given.
Mr. Minter, in an ingenious speech, proved to his own satisfaction
doubtless, that prisoner was quite innocent. He had no knowledge of the
other prisoner, who admitted having taken the cigars, and therefore
Sandford had not done it. Stone gave him some cigars, and he took them
as a gift, not even dreaming they were stolen. Afterwards hearing that
cigars had been stolen from the Raglan, and that Stone was suspected,
instead of returning them to Lepper as he should have done, he foolishly
threw them away out in the garden, and forgot all about them, hence when
he was apprehended, he said “I don't know anything about any cigars”.
Afterwards, when reminded of the circumstance, and shown the cigars, he
said “Stone took them and gave them to me”, meaning that Stone must have
taken them, not speaking of his own knowledge; and he further laid down
the law that if Sandford did not know at the very moment of receiving
the cigars from Stone, know that he had stolen them, he could not be
found guilty.
The learned Recorder then summed up, and told the jury that as no-one
had been seen to steal the cigars, they must use their own judgement in
their decision; the prisoner Sandford had been in the company of Stone,
in the place and at the time the cigars were stolen, and half the
proceeds of the robbery were found in Sandford's possession. They must
therefore see if his explanation of the circumstance was a sufficient
explanation. If they thought it satisfactory entirely, and the facts to
be consistent with an innocent man receiving them as a gift, they must
find him not guilty. Each of the witnesses had stated that Sandford was
of good character so far as they knew, and that must be taken into
account; but so must also the circumstances of his being in the company
of a person who had been previously convicted of felony.
The jury retired to consider, and after an interval returned a verdict
of “Not Guilty”, to the manifest surprise of everyone in the court who
had heard the evidence. Sandford was then discharged.
The Recorder then addressing Stone, told him that a previous conviction
being held against him, he was liable to a long term of penal servitude.
A mild sentence seemed to have no effect on him, but he had done the
best thing he could do now in pleading guilty. He was sentenced to
twelve months' hard labour. This concluded the business of the Sessions.
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Folkestone Observer 5 January 1867.
Quarter Sessions.
Thursday, January 3rd: Before J.J. Lonsdale Esq.
Edward Stone, 28, plasterer, who can neither read nor write, pleaded
guilty to stealing two boxes of cigars, the property of Godfrey Lepper,
on the 16th of December, and to a previous conviction on the 9th July,
1857, for felony.
Thomas Sandford, 20, plasterer, imperfectly educated, pleaded not guilty
to indictments – one for stealing two boxes of cigars, and one for
receiving with guilty knowledge.
Mr. Minter appeared for the prisoner.
Mr. Thomas Cobb, addressing the Recorder, said it was the intention of
the Grand Jury to find a true bill on the count for receiving and not
for stealing.
The Recorder looked at the indictment and said it was endorsed “A true
bill”.
Mr. Brooke, foreman, and other members of the Grand Jury confirmed Mr.
Cobb's statement.
The Recorder said as a Grand Jury they did not then exist (the learned
gentleman had previously dismissed them), and he could not take notice
of them. They were dead.
After some consideration the Recorder proceeded with the case,
complaining, however, that no legal gentleman appeared for the
prosecution.
Godfrey Lepper, being sworn, said: I am a carpenter. I recollect Sunday
afternoon the 16th of December. On that afternoon I missed two boxes of
cigars off a shelf in the bar of the Raglan Tavern. I am landlord of the
Tavern. The shelf is about eight feet from the floor. I saw them at
three in the afternoon. I missed them about half past five. I saw
Sandford there about five o'clock outside the bar. He was in and out the
whole of the evening. I cannot say that I saw him go out. I saw Stone
there, sitting down. They were the only two in the bar at that time. I
saw the cigars through Superintendent Martin bringing them to me on the
following Tuesday evening, about eight o'clock. They were tied up in a
red handkerchief in paper. One box of cigars was Henry Clay's; the next
were Mexican cheroots. I compared others that I had with them. The
cigars brought me were some of the same kind. It is only from the
general appearance that I believe them to be mine. When I missed the
cigars I used every exertion to find out the persons who had taken them.
After Superintendent Martin brought me the cigars, I went with police
constables Reynolds and Ovenden to Stone's house to take him, and
afterwards I went to the station house, and there Sandford said in the
presence of Stone that Stone had taken them and given them to him. Stone
then said the other portion of the cigars would be found at the back of
his (Stone's) house, in the garden, buried in a handkerchief.
Superintendent Martin and P.C. Reynolds and myself went to Stone's back
garden and found them there. Superintendent Martin took those cigars.
(Cigars produced). There is nothing but their general appearance that
makes me think they are mine.
Cross-examined by Mr. Minter: There were other people in the house, but
there were no persons in the house during the time that these cigars
must have been taken. I did not see them taken. I did not go with the
policeman when Sandford was taken. There was not much general
conversation when I was at the station. There was a conversation about
the stealing of the cigars. Sandford did not say that he did not steal
them at all; he said Stone had taken them and given them to him. Stone
denied taking them at first, but when he saw the cigars that had been
found at the Black Bull, he admitted that he had taken them, and that
some of them would be found at the back of his house. Part of the cigars
had been in my house eleven months and three weeks. The Mexican cigars
had been there that time; the others had been there five months. I was
adjudicated bankrupt on the 28th of October. I have not received my
order of discharge.
Mr. Minter here took objection to the indictment, the cigars being the
property of the assignee, but the Recorder said it would be a mere
misdescription, if anything, and he had full power to amend. The
indictment was accordingly amended.
Mr. Lepper: I beg your pardon, Mr. Minter; they are my property. It was
arranged on the 12th that the property is to remain mine, and I am to
pay for it by instalments.
Robert Fisher, landlord of the Black Bull: I live near the prisoner
Sandford. On the 19th December I found a handkerchief in the dyke
between my field and Sandford's garden. I opened the parcel and found
ninety six cigars in it. It was a red handkerchief. I believe the
handkerchief produced to be the same. I took them indoors and said “I
have found a prize”. I told P.C. Sharpe that I had found some cigars,
and let him have them.
Cross-examined: Prisoner lives next door to me, and has lived there
three or four years. He has always borne a good character.
P.C. Sharpe received the cigars from last witness, and handed them over
to Superintendent Martin.
Henry Newman, being called, said he had nothing to do with Sandford's
case, and the Recorder looking over his deposition directed the next
witness to be sworn.
P.C. Reynolds said: In consequence of information received I went to
Sandford's house and he came to the door. I told him I wanted him to
come with me, and I charged him with stealing two boxes of cigars from
Mr. Lepper's on Sunday evening. He said he knew nothing about it. On the
way to the station I told him some had been found on the back of his
premises. He made no answer. I brought him to the station.
Superintendent Martin told him he was charged with stealing two boxes of
cigars, and putting the cigars on the table, asked him if he wished to
give any explanation. He said Stone had taken them and given them to
him. I searched him, but did not find anything on him.
Cross-examined: I have known the prisoner for some years, and his
friends are very respectable, and he has borne a very good character
himself, as far as I know. When I took him into custody, I did not take
him to the Black Bull, nor call there, nor see Mr. Fisher. I did tell
him something, I believe, about Stone stealing the cigars.
Superintendent Martin received the first lot of cigars from P.C. Sharpe,
and was himself present when Reynolds dug up the second lot in Stone's
garden. The cigars had been in his possession ever since. Was present
when Sandford was brought in, and cautioned him about what he should
say. Asked him if he had any explanation to give respecting the cigars.
Mr. Minter submitted that what followed could not be received in
evidence on the ground that Superintendent Martin had no business to
produce the cigars and say “Now what have you to say about them? What
explanation have you to give?”. In fact it was holding out a theft – not
in language, but in substance.
The Recorder said he thought the evidence might not be excluded.
Witness continued: I charged him with stealing the cigars, and asked him
if he had any explanation to make about their being found on his
premises, having previously cautioned him. He said Stone took the
cigars, and gave him the cigars produced.
Cross-examined: I have known prisoner for some years, and considered him
to be a respectable young man living at home with his father.
Mr. Minter then addressed the jury, contending that Sandford had no
knowledge of Stone's theft when he took the cigars, and that when he
became aware of that theft through the enquiries of the prosecutor he
threw the cigars away, and his statement of Stone's having stolen them
was but a repetition of the policeman's statement to himself.
The Recorder summed up the evidence very carefully, and the jury
retired, but in a short time returned with a verdict of Acquittal.
The Recorder then sentenced Thomas Day to twelve months' hard labour.
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Southeastern Gazette 8 January 1867.
Quarter Sessions.
The winter Quarter Session for Folkestone was held on Thursday, at the
Town-Hall, before J. J. Lonsdale, Esq., Recorder.
Edward Stone pleaded guilty and Thomas Sandford not guilty to an
indictment charging them with stealing, on the 16th December last, two
boxes of cigars value 25s., the property of Godfrey Lepper, and the
latter prisoner also pleaded not guilty to a second count, charging him
with receiving the same, knowing them, to have been stolen. Mr. Minter
appeared for the prisoner Sandford.
Just as the trial commenced, the grand jury, who had been discharged on
their bringing in true bills against these prisoners, as there were no
other cases, said they only meant to return a true bill on the second
count against Sandford but on examination the whole bill was found to be
endorsed as a true bill, and the Recorder said as they had been
discharged he could not take notice of the mistake.
The facts of the case were that both prisoners were in the prosecutor’s
house, the Raglan Tavern, on Sunday, the 10th December, nearly all the
afternoon and evening. During that time prosecutor missed two boxes of
cigars from a high shelf in the bar. On Tuesday evening the contents of
one box were found in a ditch by the side of Sandford's garden, and
given to the police, and the contents of the other box found in Stone’s
garden in some shavings. After the prisoners were taken into custody,
and when they were at the police station, Sandford said before Stone and
three of the witnesses, “Stone took them and gave them to me,” although
previously he had denied all knowledge of the cigars.
Mr. Minter addressed the jury in defence of his client, urging that he
received the cigars as a gift without the slightest knowledge or
suspicion that they were stolen.
The jury returned a verdict of not guilty.
Stone, who had pleaded guilty, was sentenced to twelve months' hard
labour.
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Folkestone Chronicle 9 February 1867.
Advertisement:
Valuable Freehold and Leasehold Property.
........ A Public House, known as the Lord Raglan in a most commanding
situation in Dover Street, and near to the South Eastern Railway
Station.
Messrs. Worsfold and Hayward have received instruction from the
Assignees, under a Deed Of Assignment for the benefit of the creditors
of Mr. Godfrey Lepper, to offer for sale by public competition, at the
Lord Raglan Tavern, Dover Street, Folkestone, on Thursday February 28th,
1867, at two for three o'clock precisely, the above property.
Lot 1: The Lord Raglan Tavern, a free Public House, in a most commanding
situation, near the Junction Station of the South Eastern Railway,
having a double frontage to Dover Street and Mill Lane, recently
erected, and from it's undeniable position certain to command a large
trade. The house contains on the Basement, large cellar, kitchen,
scullery, W.C., coal and wine cellars; on the Ground Floor, bar, bar
parlour, counting house, and tap room. On the First Floor, club room,
bagatelle room, and bedroom, with seven bedrooms and W.C. above; and is
now in the occupation of Mr. G. Lepper. Possession could be had
immediately on completion of the purchase.
Lot 1 is held under a lease from the Earl of Radnor, for a term of 99
years, from the 29th of September, 1864, at an annual Ground Rent of £5.
Note: This is almost certainly proof that the Raglan was not built for
Kingsford of Dover, but, as previously noted, built by Lepper himself.
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Folkestone Chronicle 23 November 1867
County Court.
Monday November 18th: Before W.C. Scott.
Godfrey Lepper v Joseph Memphis: Claim for £1 3s. 8d. for goods
supplied. Defendant said he owed some; he did not know how much. The
fact was, he used to go into the Raglan (plaintiff's house) and sit
there playing cards from morning till night. This was for bread and
cheese and beer. He never kept no account. Order for 5s. per month, His
Honour remarking that such a case could not be brought forward after
this year.
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Folkestone Observer 23 November 1867.
County Court:
Monday, November 18th: Before J.C. Scott Esq.
Godfrey Lepper v Joseph Memphis: Claim for £1 3s. 8d. for goods
supplied.
Defendant said he owed some, but did not know how much. This was for
bread and cheese and beer. He never kept no account.
Order for 5s. a month, His Honour remarking that such a case could not
be brought after this year.
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Folkestone Chronicle 25 January 1868.
County Court.
Monday January 20th: Before W.C. Scott.
Godfrey Lepper v Hughes: Claim for 14s 3d. Ordered to be paid in a
month: defendant pleaded a set-off, but not having given notice of it,
it was not allowed.
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Folkestone Observer 25 January 1868.
County Court.
Monday, January 20th: Before J.C. Scott.
Lepper v Hughes: This was a claim for 9s. for refreshments.
To be paid in a month.
Lepper v Memphis: This was a case where defendant was ordered to pay 5s.
a month, but had failed to comply.
Ordered to stand over for a month to allow defendant to pay the first
instalment of 5s., or sent to prison for 14 days.
Lepper v Newman: This was a claim for £1 2s. 5d. for refreshments
generally, and the defendant had been ordered to pay 5s. per month, but
had not done so. The defendant said that he did not owe the money, and
he should not pay the debt; he would rather go to prison. Ordered to
stand over for a month, or 14 days' imprisonment.
Lepper v T. Newman: In this case the defendant denied the debt, and said
he would rather be in prison all his lifetime than pay what he did not
owe. Committed for 14 days.
Lepper v Hollis: In this case the defendant admitted the debt, but had
been unable to pay his instalments of 5s. per month in consequence of
being out of employ. To pay in a month or 14 days' imprisonment.
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Folkestone Chronicle 15 August 1868.
County Court.
Monday August 10th: Before W.C. Scott.
Alfred Kingsford v Godfrey Lepper: This was a claim to recover
possession of the Raglan Tavern, held by defendant as tenant to
plaintiff, a brewer at Buckland, Dover. Mr. Percy Claris appeared for
plaintiff, and Mr. Minter for defendant.
Mr. Claris produced the agreement for letting the house: It was dated
21st October last, and the tenancy was to commence on the 29th
September: the rent was to be £25, and the tenancy was to be determined
at any time at the expiration of three calendar months, after notice had
been given by either party, with the usual proviso for entry in twenty
one days, after non-payment of rent when due. Notice had been given to
defendant to leave on the 6th July, but he had refused to go till paid
for fixtures, which were the property of the landlord.
Plaintiff was sworn, and two letters produced by him, one from defendant
dated 4th June, stating that he would go out at any time, on a fair
valuation, that he would settle all demands, and transfer the licenses;
the other was from Mr. Minter, stating that the fixtures belonged to
defendant, subject to a loan of £45 from plaintiff; that the notice was
insufficient, but that he would not complain of that, and that defendant
would not go out till the valuation had been made.
Charles Browning, clerk to plaintiff, proved serving the notice to quit
on Mrs. Lepper, at half past two on the afternoon of April 6th.
The defence was that a proper notice had not been served, for two
reasons. First, that the “any time” in the agreement must mean at any
quarter-day, and that as the rent was payable on the new quarters, the
notice to quit must not expire on an old quarter-day, as otherwise the
agreement must have contained a proviso that a proportionate part of the
rent should be paid at the time of leaving. Then in the second place the
agreement required three calendar months, after notice is served to
quit, while the notice, served on the afternoon of the 6th April was “to
quit on the 6th July”, so that three months after notice was not
allowed, the day of service being excluded.
His Honour said it was a curious point, but he thought he must allow it
to be a proper notice, and that the clause in the agreement precluded
the limitation of the notice to quarter days. The objection was too
technical, and he decided on the merits of the case that possession must
be given. He reserved the date of giving up till the other cases were
heard.
Same v Same: Claim £17 5s. 6d., £14 9s. 3d. being balance of beer
account, and £2 16s. 3d. for one and a quarter years' hire of fixtures.
The account was commenced in November 1865, the defendant became
bankrupt at the end of 1867, when plaintiff purchased the house, there
being then a balance due of £29 8s., which had not been claimed since.
Plaintiff was examined on these points, but a bill was produced by Mr.
Minter, in which the sum due at defendant's bankruptcy was included. In
cross-examination, plaintiff said he bought the house at the sale, and
defendant afterwards came over to Dover to say that he might buy the
fixtures for £45; he perhaps might have asked witness to lend him the
money, but he certainly should not have done so. He was not anxious to
have defendant as a tenant. Messrs. Dickenson bought the house, but
defendant refused to stay in it with them, and so witness bought it.
Witness did not advance £54 on the fixtures and agree to take five
percent on it, nor agree to take it back £10 at a time, nor say he would
rather have it all at once. After a great deal of questioning witness
said that what he might have offered was that if defendant could get a
tenant who would buy the fixtures, he might keep any overplus, after
paying the £45, his rent, and the beer score.
Mr. Minter said that was all he wanted to know.
Judgement was given for plaintiff within seven days.
Same v Same: This was a claim for a year and a quarter's rent, £31 5s.,
up to the 24th June.
Mr. Minter said it would perhaps save time if he said at first his
objection to the case was that the County Courts Act prohibited
splitting claims for the purpose of adding to the expense.
This was overruled and the plaintiff called. He stated that the rent due
was £31 5s., and produced the agreement for letting and taking the
house.
Mr. Minter objected that according to that agreement the tenancy only
commenced on September 29th so that only three quartrs' pnt was due.
Mr. Claris characterised the defence as dishonest and dishonourable, and
His Honour protested against such recriminations.
Plaintiff was proceeding to say that he purchased the house in March,
but Mr. Minter objected to hear anything about that unless the
conveyance was put in, especially as Mr. Claris had not opened the case,
except as to the agreement.
Mr. Minter argued that defendant was left in charge of the house by the
assignees to keep the business together, and that the tenancy could not
commence till the date fixed in the agreement. Then the County Court Act
specially provided against a multiplicity of suits, and here were three
plaints and a proceeding in equity in this court, so that plaintiff,
having obtained judgement in one case, was precluded from obtaining one
now. In the first cause, that for ejectment, the clause claiming rent
was struck out and a separate action brought, while the rent and beer
score, with the rent of fixtures, were again separated because, had they
been included in one suit, it would have amounted to more than £50, and
would have been out of the jurisdiction of the court.
His Honour asked for an explanation, and Mr. Claris said it was intended
to distrain for the rent when the action for ejectment was commenced,
but there was nothing to distrain on (Mr. Minter said there was £40 or
£50 worth), and the rent and beer account were quite distinct.
An order for payment for four quarters' rent was made.
Same, in Equity: Mr. Minter called His Honour's attention to an
injunction granted by him forbidding defendant to remove the fixtures,
and the order had been obeyed, although no other proceedings having been
commenced in equity, the injunction ought not to have been issued. He
therefore asked His Honour to say that he had no power to make the
injunction, and to discharge it with costs, because it was agreed that
the fixtures should be valued, and possession given. The fact was, the
fixtures were the bona fide property of defendant, who would be damaged
to the amount of their value if he had to give up possession of the
house without removing his fixtures. He could not understand why these
proceedings should have been taken, instead of carrying out the
arrangement entered into. The defence had not been a factious defence,
for plaintiff now owed defendant more than he claimed. However, he would
consent to an order for possession in a fortnight, and continue the
injunction to the next court, if plaintiff would undertake not to make
the giving up possession a technical objection to the suit.
An order to deliver up possession in ten days was then made, and an
immediate order for the rent.
Notes: This case appears to be conclusive proof that the Raglan was
built by Lepper himself, and that the granting of his license in 1866
was, indeed, the first license that the Raglan had, rather than the date
of 1864 mentioned in More Tales. It is mentioned during the case that
Kingsford's purchased the house from Dickenson's (who took over from
Hills at the brewery in Tontine Street), and therefore any idea that the
house had been built for Kingsford seems to be mistaken.
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Folkestone Observer 15 August 1868.
County Court.
Monday, August 10th: Before W.C. Scott Esq.
Alfred Kingsford v Godfrey Lepper: This was an action to recover
possession of the Raglan Tavern, Dover Street, Folkestone.
Mr. Percy Claris appeared for plaintiff, and Mr. Minter for defendant.
Mr. Claris, in opening the case, said this was an action brought by
plaintiff, a brewer residing at Buckland, near Dover, to recover
possession of the Raglan Tavern, Dover Street, let by plaintiff to
defendant under an agreement dated October, 1867, at the yearly rental
of £25, the tenancy commencing on the 29th of September of that year.
The agreement contained a clause to the effect that the tenancy could be
determined at any time after three calendar months notice any rule or
law to the contrary notwithstanding; and in addition to this there was
the usual “provision for entrance in 21 days” upon non-payment of rent.
Notice was served on the defendant on the 6th of April to quit on the
6th of July, but defendant had not quitted, giving as an excuse that he
would not leave until plaintiff had agreed as to the payment for certain
fixtures, but as those fixtures belonged to the plaintiff he did not
agree to that little proposition.
Mr. Minter, on seeing the agreement, said he did not think it was
properly stamped; it was a half crown stamp instead of a lease stamp.
His Honour overruled the objection.
Plaintiff then gave evidence in corroboration of his lawyer's statement,
adding that he received the letter produced from the defendant. (It was
to the effect that as plaintiff had decided to let the house, he would
be prepared to give up possession upon a fair valuation being made of
the fixtures and agreed upon between them. A letter from Mr. Minter was
also read which stated that defendant had directed him to say that the
fixtures belonged to him and he would not part with the possession of
the house until the valuation was settled and agreed upon.)
Charles Browning proved the service of the notice at half past two on
the 6th of April.
Mr. Minter said that was not a proper notice to quit for two reasons;
first, they must take the notice to quit as it stands – that the tenancy
should be a yearly tenancy from the 29th of September, at the yearly
rent of £25, giving the quarter days upon which that rent was payable,
and he contended therefore that the notice should be given on one of
those days. The agreement said the tenancy should cease and determine at
any time after three calendar months' notice. Now he contended that that
clause meant at any time after three months' notice expiring upon one of
the quarters named in the agreement. He cited the case of Kemp v Derritt,
Campbell's Law Reports, where it was decided that it must be at one of
the quarters upon which the rent was payable that notice to quit was to
be given and expire. If the agreement meant that the tenancy should be
determined at any moment after three months' notice had been given and
expired, then there would have been a provision that a proportionate
part of the rent should then and there become and be made payable to the
proprietor, but explicit as the agreement otherwise was, it contained no
such thing. Taking this, his friend's contention, to be right, then the
defendant would occupy the house for six weeks without paying any rent.
He said, in the reasonable meaning of the agreement, and also in law, by
which the case had to be decided, the quarter should be taken to end at
some quarter named in the agreement. If His Honour was against him on
this point, he had a second to fall back upon. The agreement stated that
three calendar months should be given, and this should be exclusive of
the day of service; therefore the notice was informal because that day
had been calculated in the time. The notice was specific in itself and
binding upon them, giving the day which it expired, and including both
the first and last days to make the three calendar months notice. It had
been decided that the time must be exclusive both of the first and last
days, both of which in this case the matter was quite clear; the
agreement – three calendar months after notice had been given. He
confidently submitted the first point as being entitled to succeed upon
it; if His Honour was against him, then he called his attention to the
second.
His Honour said this was a close point to take.
Mr. Claris said in ninety nine cases out of a hundred notices were
served as this had been.
Mr. Minter said he must call His Honour's attention to the agreement
which stated clearly that it must be three calendar months after the
notice in writing, which, he contended, must be given on a quarter day.
His Honour replied that there was a special clause introduced in that
agreement, that at any time whatever notice should be given, any rule or
law to the contrary notwithstanding. He therefore overruled Mr. Minter's
first objection; and as to the second, he should overrule that too,
because it was too technical to notice. He would decide the case upon
it's merits.
Mr. Minter then asked His Honour to defer judgement until the next case
had been heard.
His Honour consented.
Plaintiff brought a further claim against the defendant, for £17 5s.
6d., of which £14 9s. 3d. was the balance, and £2 16s. 3d.for one and a
quarter years' hire of fixtures to the Raglan Tavern.
Mr. Claris stated that defendant had admitted his liability over and
over again by the payment of sums on the account, and he therefore
thought His Honour would have no difficulty in deciding in favour of the
plaintiff.
Plaintiff stated that defendant agreed to give £2 5s. per year for the
use of the fixtures, that being a charge of 5 percent on the purchase
money. The account had been delivered, but never disputed.
Cross-examined: I know nothing of defendant being asked to stay in the
house as a tenant. I was not at the sale; my son was there. I simply
bought the fixtures as belonging to the house. The defendant was to pay
me rent for those fixtures – 5 percent on the purchase money. I did not
advance the £45 as a loan at interest to Lepper at 5 percent, and it was
not agreed that he should pay me back at £10 at a time. I never said I
would rather have the whole £45 back at one time; you are putting words
into my mouth that I know nothing about. The understanding was that if
another person accepted the house the fixtures were to be taken by him
at a valuation, and any over-plus to go to defendant.
His Honour: That is, would you have been satisfied with the return of
the £45 you paid for them?
Witness: Yes.
Mr. Minter: I don't call any witnesses, and it it not necessary for me
to address Your Honour on the present case.
His Honour then gave judgement for plaintiff.
A third case was then gone into, being a claim for rent.
Mr. Claris said he did not know what defence could be set up to this, as
defendant had been in the house and paid no rent. Mr. Minter had given
them two very ingenious defences, and perhaps he would now give them a
third.
Mr. Minter said he would give his defence at once, and referred to the
63rd Section of the 9th and 10th Victoria, chapter 95, which refers to
splitting the accounts, under which he contended that by plaintiff's
first case he was debarred from obtaining a judgement on the second.
His Honour: Not at all.
Mr. Claris: We are not bound to bring the action for rent and beer
together. This defence is still more ingenious.
His Honour: That is no defence to it.
Plaintiff then gave evidence stating that £31 5s. 0d. were due for five
quarters' rent.
Mr. Minter contended that under the agreement under which they were
suing, three quarters' rent only were due.
Mr. Claris replied that he was suing for three quarters under the
agreement, and two quarters due before that agreement was entered into.
This was simply a dishonest and dishonourable defence set up by the
defendant.
Mr. Minter did not know what his friend meant by those terms, but he
should learn the law before he came there.
Mr. Claris replied that defendant ought to have paid the money, knowing
as he did that it was owing.
His Honour: Stick to the law upon the matter, please.
Mr. Minter still contended there was no tenancy before the agreement
existed, defendant having lived in the house, and it was his own
property up to the time of his bankruptcy, after which he continued to
reside there.
Plaintiff, however, stated there was an agreement between them on his
purchasing the house, but failed to prove more than one quarter previous
to the agreement.
Mr. Minter then fell back upon the statute relating to a multiplying of
suits. Three cases had been taken against the defendant besides one in
equity, making four, simply, it seemed to him, to multiply the costs.
The whole of the accounts together, with the £29 odd due before the
bankruptcy, would have taken it out of the jurisdiction of that Court,
and he contended that plaintiff had no right to split up his accounts to
bring it there, therefore the latter claim must be abandoned.
His Honour having asked for some more explanation, Mr. Claris said he
had intended to distrain for rent as his best mode of obtaining it, but
on sending in he found that defendant had taken great care there was
nothing there to distrain upon. If the defendant had any ground of
complaint, it was against himself. The summons for the beer account was
taken out in the meantime, consequently the claims were not made
separate. If Lepper had abided by his agreement made on his first
interview with him, not a sixpence might have been expended in these
matters.
His Honour gave a verdict for four quarters' rent.
Mr. Minter then made an application with reference to the fourth case,
viz., that the injunction issued – to restrain the defendant from
removing any of the fixtures of the Raglan Tavern, should be dissolved.
He was in a position to prove that the fixtures belonged to the
defendant, subject to £45 lent by plaintiff, and such being the case,
defendant would be damnified by that injunction.
His Honour ordered possession to be given up in 10 days, and renewed the
injunction to that time.
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Folkestone Express 15 August 1868.
County Court.
Monday, August 10th: Before W.C. Scott Esq.
A. Kingsford v G. Lepper: Plaintiff is a brewer at Dover, and the
defendant the landlord of the Raglan Tavern in Dover Street. This was an
action to recover possession of the said premises.
Mr. Claris appeared for the plaintiff, and Mr. Minter for the defendant.
Mr. Claris said plaintiff is a brewer near Dover, and the action was
brought to recover possession of the Raglan Tavern, in Dover Street,
which was let to defendant for £25 per annum, the tenancy being a yearly
one. An agreement had been drawn up between the plaintiff and defendant,
in which there was a clause that said three months notice to quit should
be sufficient, and that the tenancy was to terminate at the end of three
calendar months “notwithstanding any rule or law to the contrary”. On
the 6th April last plaintiff's clerk served a notice to quit on the
defendant. His tenancy therefore expired, according to the agreement, on
the 6th July, but he would not give up possession unless plaintiff paid
for some fixtures.
He called Mr. Kingsford, the plaintiff, who deposed he had received some
letters from Mr. Lepper, one of which said that he should be prepared at
any time to deliver up possession on a fair valuation being made. On
that taking place he would give up possession and transfer the license.
Witness the put in a letter he had received from Mr. Minter, which
objected to the notice because it was not a sufficient one, although he
would leave if a proper valuation was made and the fixtures paid for.
Mr. Charles Brownrigg, clerk to plaintiff, proved serving the notice on
Mrs. Lepper on the 6th of April.
Cross-examined by Mr. Minter: He came by the two o'clock train, and the
notice was served at half past two in the afternoon.
Mr. Minter said the defendant had not received a proper notice to quit.
It was shown by the agreement which was made on the 29th September last
that the tenancy was a yearly one, and that the rent became due at the
end of one of the usual quarters. The meaning of the tenancy clause is
that three months' notice is sufficient, and the notice is to expire at
the expiration of one of the quarters for which rent was payable. If the
tenancy was to determine at any moment, there would have been a
provision in the agreement how that portion of the rent should become
payable. No claim could be made on the defendant for a portion of a
quarter, and he could therefore occupy the tenancy for six weeks without
paying any rent at all. He contended that the tenancy ought to end on
one of the quarters mentioned in the agreement. He would next show that
he had not received a proper notice. The agreement provides that the
tenant is to give up possession after three months notice has been
given, therefore it ought to be dated and served on April 5th, when
actually it is delivered on April 6th, and the notice says they must
deliver up possession on July 6th. Strictly speaking the time ought to
be exclusive of the first and last days, and it is quite plain that the
agreement must mean three clear calendar months.
His Honour stated that the clause relating to the notice was a special
one and is intended for special occasions; the second objection is too
technical. He should decide the case on it's merits, although he would
make note of the two objections. Possession to be given up in ten days.
Kingsford v Lepper: This was a claim for £17 15s. 6d., being a balance
due to plaintiff for beer, &c., supplied. The same counsels as in the
previous case.
Verdict for the plaintiff, the amount to be paid in seven days.
Kingsford v Lepper: The plaintiff claimed £31 5s., being five quarters'
rent. Same counsels both for plaintiff and defendant.
Mr. Minter objected to the case proceeding, as it was specified in the
County Courts Act that actions could not be multiplied, and this claim
ought to have been combined with the previous one.
Mr Claris: One is a claim for rent, and the other was a debt incurred,
and therefore could not be included in one action.
His Honour overruled the objection and allowed the case to proceed.
Mr. Kingsford said defendant had possession by verbal agreement up to
the 29th September.
Mr. Minter took objection to the case proceeding unless the conveyance
was produced.
His Honour did not consider this necessary.
Mr. Kingsford (in answer to Mr. Minter): The property was not conveyed
before the 25th March.
His Honour thought there was something in the fact that defendant was
his own landlord previously, and that the assignees had left him in
possession.
Mr. Minter: Defendant could not have been a tenant without he made an
agreement, and the agreement was not made till September 29th.
Mr. Claris: But plaintiff made a verbal agreement with the defendant.
Mr. Minter said that under the County Courts Act the plaintiff could not
recover, as there was a clause which specially stated that no
multiplication of suits should be allowed, to prevent the increasing of
costs. He quoted some cases which had been decided in support of the
view taken by him of the question. According to this the two claims
ought to have been combined; if they had the plaintiff would have no
right to bring the action in this Court, as it would be a bar to the
claim, the total amount exceeding £50. The splitting up one action into
two was not lawful, and they could not sue for the whole amount as it
would have been out of the jurisdiction of this Court.
Mr. Claris said they had distrained for the rent, but they found none
worth distraining.
Mr. Minter: There is £50 worth of property on the premises.
His Honour gave a judgement for £25 for four quarters' rent, as there
was no proof that the property was conveyed on March 25th.
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Folkestone Chronicle 17 October 1868.
County Court.
Monday October 12th.
Equity Court.
Kingsford v Lepper: Mr. Claris applied on behalf of plaintiff for leave
to proceed to execution to obtain possession of the Raglan Tavern, for
which a suit was prosecuted at the August court. Mr. Minter said his
client had been readmitted as a tenant by the plaintiff, and His Honour
said in any case there was no need to apply to the court for leave.
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Folkestone Express 17 October 1868.
County Court.
Monday, October 12th: Before W.C. Scott Esq.
G. Lepper v Charles Hughes: Claim for 7s. 6d. Plaintiff stated this
claim was for beer supplied last year.
Defendant alleged Mr. Lepper owed him 8s. 11d. for seeds and labour.
His Honour said whatever set-off defendant had against plaintiff was a
separate claim. He must give judgement for plaintiff with costs.
A. Kingsford v G. Lepper: Mr. Claris, who appeared for the plaintiff,
said at the last sitting of the Court, a judgement in the case of
Kingsford v Lepper gave plaintiff possession of the property of the
defendant in 10 days. On the 20th of August notice of appeal was given,
but no case had been submitted for His Honour's notice.
His Honour said there was no necessity for this application, as the
previous order stands good.
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Folkestone Express 21 November 1868.
County Court.
Monday, November 16th: Before W.C. Scott Esq.
Alfred Kingsford v Godfrey Lepper: This was a claim for £25 for rent,
but on account of the absence of defendant's counsel the case was
ordered to be adjourned, on defendant paying the costs of the day.
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Folkestone Chronicle 19 December 1868.
County Court.
Monday December 14th: Before W.C. Scott.
A. Kingsford v G. Lepper: Mr. P. Claris appeared for plaintiff, the
brewer of Dover, and Mr. Minter for defendant, the landlord of the
Raglan Tavern, Dover Street.
Mr. Claris said the case had been adjourned from last court, because Mr.
Minter was at that time engaged in another cause. The facts were rather
peculiar, for judgement in the case was obtained at the August court,
notice of appeal being given, but not prosecuted, and judgement not
being enforced. Then through some inadvertence on the part of
plaintiff's clerk, a demand for rent up to the 11th October had been
made, and that had perhaps revived the tenancy, and it was now necessary
to take some other proceedings. Defendant was either a tenant from year
to year – under the agreement with plaintiff – or on sufferance. Under
the agreement was a proviso that if six months' rent should be in
arrears, after twenty one days the tenancy should cease. It would then
only be necessary to prove that the value of the house was under £50 a
year, that half a year's rent was due, and that no sufficient distress
could be made, for an execution for £17 had been issued and a return
made of nulla lona. It was particularly hard on plaintiff, who had
purchased the house and fixtures, and the scheme was merely to extort
money from him. The fixtures were let to defendant at a yearly rental,
but he wished to assert that plaintiff had only lent £35 on them, and to
make him have in a valuer and pay the difference between £35 and the
value of them. The arrangement really was, that if defendant could get a
customer for the fixtures when he left, he might have all they realised
over £35, after paying all debts due to plaintiff.
Mr. Kingsford was called to prove the tenancy agreement, and that more
than six months' rent was due on the 3rd November.
Cross-examined: Subsequent to his obtaining judgement against defendant
in August, he did refuse to supply any more beer. He recognised the
writing (of the demand for rent) as that of his son or clerk, but it was
unauthorised.
Mr. Fowle was called to prove that the value of the house was under £50
a year.
Examined: He had never been over the house, nor did he know how many
rooms it contained.
That was the case.
Mr. Minter would not go into the hardship of the case, or he could make
out a good one. Defendant paid £130 for his fixtures, and states that
plaintiff lent him £35 on them, and it was very strange that the rent
charged on them should amount to just £5 per cent on that sum. But the
question was – could His Honour grant the order asked for? If plaintiff
proceeded on the agreement (which was determined by the proceedings of
the August court) half a year's rent was not due, for judgement was
recovered for rent up to the end of June, and if he proceeded under the
implied tenancy, he could not succeed.
His Honour remarked that judgement had been recovered, but it appeared
that no money for rent had yet been received. Was therefore the rent
less in arrears than before?
Mr. Minter said decidedly so, for it is an axiom in law that a man
cannot be vexed twice for the same cause. Plaintiff had got judgement
once, and if he did not choose to enforce it he could not come to the
court and ask His Honour to forget that judgement and give another. The
fact was, there was a new tenancy created by the demand for rent, the
first quarter due on the 11th October, and there was nothing but the
fear of the consequence of that act to prevent plaintiff going to the
Registrar and issuing judgement.
His Honour said that would certainly appear to be the best way, as he
could not make an order when less than half a year's rent was due. But
judgement had once been given, and there had been no appeal. Judgement
for defendant would be entered with costs, but defendant must pay the
costs of the adjournment.
Same Plaintiff and Defendant – Margaret Court, garnishee.
Mr. Claris said that in the August court, plaintiff obtained judgement
for £17 15s. 6d., and as there was no satisfaction, he had taken out
this summons in the form of a sci fa. Mrs. Court had a son apprenticed
to defendant, and on the 18th ultimo there was a sum of £10 due for
premium, which he asked His Honour to order to be paid into court.
Mr. Minter protested against the production of the indentures, which
could not have been seen but for a breach of professional confidence on
the part of Mr. Claris, who prepared them, as solicitor for Mrs. Court
and defendant, and therefore had no right to tell Mr. Kingsford of their
existence. His Honour was not, however, bound to make the order, and he
thought, under the circumstances, he would not do so. For the premium
was a consideration of apprenticeship – defendant being bound to pay the
lad certain sums of money weekly, and if this premium were attached, the
apprentice would be damnified by the defendant not being able to pay
those sums. As to the argument that no return could be made to
execution, the judgements obtained in this court were pleaded as a
set-off to a suit carried on in the Queen's Bench.
His Honour decided that this was not a case in which he could make an
order.
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Folkestone Observer 19 December 1868.
County Court.
Monday, December 14th: Before W.C. Scott Esq.
Kingsford v Lepper: This was an action to recover possession of the
Raglan Tavern, Dover Street.
Mr. Claris said the facts of the case were very peculiar. It appeared
that in August last His Honour gave judgement for plaintiff in this
case, and on the defendant's becoming bankrupt plaintiff had bought the
house of Mr. Lepper, and afterwards let it to him. He fixtures were also
bought of and let to defendant, which was an unusual proceeding on the
part of the plaintiff, but he was obliged to do so. The defendant now
wished to extort money from plaintiff for the fixtures, and on the
demand being refused, he declined to give up possession.
The agreement was put in and read, and Mr. Kingsford proved that there
was more than half a year's rent due on the 3rd of November.
By Mr. Minter: He had refused to supply the defendant with more beer.
The letter, which was a demand for rent, was in the handwriting of a
clerk.
Mr. Minter made a lengthy speech on behalf of the defendant, after which
His Honour thought they had better enforce the judgement of the last
court.
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Folkestone Express 19 December 1868.
County Court.
Monday, December 14th: Before W.C. Scott Esq.
A. Kingsford v Godfrey Lepper: Mr. Claris appeared for the plaintiff, a
brewer at Dover, and Mr. Minter for the defendant.
Mr. Claris said this action was brought forward at the last court, but
was adjourned at the defendant's request. The plaintiff wanted to
recover possession of the Radnor Tavern (sic), Dover Street, and the
circumstances were rather peculiar. At the court held last August, His
Honour made an order that possession was to be given up in ten days, and
against that order the defendant's counsel, Mr. Minter, made an appeal,
as a demand for rent had been sent in to the defendant; perhaps this
revived the tenure. In consequence of this he was obliged to adopt some
other proceeding. Mr. Claris then produced the agreement under which the
house was let, and the Act bearing on the question. He would prove that
the yearly value of the premises was under £50 if there was an objection
that the case did not come within the jurisdiction of that court. In the
August court they had recovered a whole year's rent in August last, of
which there was not one farthing paid. He could prove power to re-enter,
and he thought the case was a particularly hard one for his client, and
the opposition appeared only to extort money. Mr. Kingsford, when he
bought the house, bought the fixtures with it, which was certainly
rather an unusual circumstance for the landlord to do. The house was
sold in consequence of Mr. Lepper becoming a bankrupt, and then when the
plaintiff bought the house he let it to the defendant, as he had lost a
considerable sum of money, and told him if he could get more than what
he gave for the fixtures he had no objection to his having the surplus.
Now the defendant wants the plaintiff to buy the fixtures over again.
He called Mr. Kingsford, who said there was more than a half year's rent
due on the 3rd of November last.
By Mr. Minter: He refused to supply the defendant with more beer. The
demand for rent produced was in the handwriting of his clerk or son.
By Mr. Claris: Did not instruct his clerk to send in any demand.
By His Honour: The demand was sent in after the judgement of the court
was given.
Mr. Fowle was then called. He said that he was a clerk to Messrs.
Brockman and Harrison; was experienced in valuing. He knew the Raglan
Tavern. To the best of his judgement it was not worth £50 a year.
By Mr. Minter: Did not know how many rooms it contained; had never been
in the house.
Mr. Minter said he should contain his observations to the point before
them. He did not know whether His Honour had the power to make the order
because there may be a half year's rent in arrears. On no other ground
can the plaintiff succeed in his right to re-enter, as the condition
mentioned must continue in force at the time, but Mr. Kingsford can't
prove that there was a half year's rent in arrears, but only one
quarter. His Honour made an order for the rent and possession in August.
Then a demand for rent was made, which made it a fresh tenancy. He
contended that there is a half year's rent due; the defendant contends
there is only a quarter. The demand was a waiver of the right to
re-enter. His Honour has already given judgement in this case, and if
the plaintiff does not choose to enforce that judgement, he has no right
to come here and ask His Honour to pronounce another judgement on the
same case. The first action was for the possession of the premises, and
now the action is for the same object. Unless there is some fresh reason
or new set of circumstances to recover, they could not come there and
try to get His Honour to deliver another similar judgement. So far as
this is concerned, the argument is null and void, and now a new tenancy
has commenced, and the landlord can't take any course. There is nothing
at the present moment to prevent him going to the registrar's office and
executing His Honour's judgement in this case, only he may fear the
consequences.
Mr. Claris was almost ready to accept the proposition that there was a
fresh agreement.
His Honour thought it would be the best way for the plaintiff, to act on
Mr. Minter's suggestion. He must non-suit the plaintiff. Defendant's
costs allowed.
Kingsford v Margaret Court: This was proceedings taken under the Court
Garnishee.
In August last the plaintiff recovered an action for £17 15s. 6d. with
Mr. Lepper, which had not been paid, and Mrs. Court was indebted to Mr.
Lepper under an indenture of apprenticeship to the amount of £10, which
was half the amount of premium to be paid.
Mr. Minter, who appeared for the defendant, contended that the court
ought not to have known of the existence of these indentures. Mr. Claris
was Mr. Lepper's solicitor, and he has betrayed confidence by producing
them.
Mr. Claris denied that he had been Mr. Lepper's solicitor.
Mr. Minter: The indenture of apprenticeship produced was one by which
the defendant's son was to learn the business of a carpenter and
builder, and Mr. Lepper was bound by that indenture to pay the
apprentice certain sums of money. He is still an apprentice, and has
half his time to serve. Mr. Lepper has had to sue Mr. Kingsford for £30
or £40 by action in a superior court.
Mr. Claris replied.
His Honour said he would give judgement in favour of the defendant on
the first point, as the money was given for the apprentice to learn his
trade. If it had been a clear debt he would have given in favour of the
plaintiff.
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Folkestone Express 30 January 1869.
County Court.
Monday, January 25th: Before W.G.S. Harrison Esq.
Godfrey Lepper v Thomas Newman: The order was made in November, 1867.
Defendant had paid 17s., and there was 9s. 2d. due. His Honour committed
him for 14 days; order suspended for 14 days.
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Folkestone Chronicle 27 February 1869.
Wednesday, February 23rd: Before Captain Kennicott R.N. and S. Eastes
Esq.
License of the following house was transferred at a special sessions:-
The Raglan Tavern –
Mr. Percy Claris, of Dover, appeared for Mr. Kingsford, Buckland
Brewery, Dover, the landlord of this house, and applied for permission
to sell excisable liquors to be granted to James Morford. A license for
the house was granted to Godfrey Lepper, who had left the house and
refused to transfer the license. Under these circumstances the
magistrates had power, if they pleased, to grant temporary permission to
sell. He put in the agreement under which Lepper held the house, and
said they had spent £60 on him, and as Lepper had no money to pay it was
no use to waste any more.
He called James Morford, who stated he was now tenant of the house. He
took possession on the 25th of January, before which the house was
empty. He applied to Lepper to transfer the license, but was told Mr.
Minter was keeping it as security for his costs.
Godfrey Lepper attended to oppose the application. A suit had been
pending since August last, and was now removed to a superior court. Mr.
Claris came into the house last month with five men, and ejected him
with his goods, throwing them into the street. Mr. Minter could not
attend that morning.
Mr. Claris said the case was not in a superior court. An action was
brought in August for ejectment, and judgement given for plaintiff,
possession being ordered in ten days. Notice of appeal was given, and
they could not proceed till the next court in October, and by some
mistake a claim for rent was made, not under the agreement. A fresh
action was brought in November, but the former judgement being still in
force, plaintiff was directed to act on it. The time for taking out
execution was just expired, and as it was no use wasting more money on
him, Lepper was forcibly ejected from the house as an intruder, leaving
him, if he pleased, to take action for it.
In reply to the Bench, Mr. Claris said Lepper was not ejected under the
order of the court.
Permission granted.
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Folkestone Observer 27 February 1869.
Tuesday, February 23rd: Before Captain Kennicott R.N. and S. Eastes Esq.
Mr. Claris, solicitor, Dover, applied on behalf of Mr. James Morford for
permission to sell excisable liquors at the Raglan Tavern, Dover Street.
A license had been granted to Mr. Lepper, but as he had been ejected for
non-payment of rent, he had refused to transfer his license, contrary to
his agreement with Mr. Kingsford. They had offered to pay for the
unexpired term of the license, but Mr. Lepper would not accept it, his
object being to keep the house shut up, that he might extort money from
Mr. Kingsford.
Mr. Claris then called James Morford, who said he was the tenant of the
Raglan Tavern, and took possession on the 20th January. The house had
been shut up previously. On asking Mr. Lepper to transfer the license
and sign the necessary papers, he said he could not do it.
Mr. Lepper opposed the application, stating that this case had been
going on since August last, and had been carried into a superior court.
Mr. Minter would have been there that morning, only that he was engaged.
Mr. Kingsford had broken the agreement by refusing to supply him (Mr.
Lepper) with beer; and as to the tenancy, Mr. Kingsford had acknowledged
him as such by sending in a demand for money.
Mr. Claris said an action was brought to eject Mr. Lepper from the
premises, and a verdict was given for ejectment in 10 days, and Mr.
Minter gave notice of appeal, but at the October court he stated that he
should not go on with the case. It appeared that during that time a
clerk of Mr. Kingsford's had, in mistake, sent in a demand to Mr. Lepper
for rent, thereby, Mr. Lepper said, renewing the tenancy, but at a
subsequent court it was ruled that the mistake was not sufficient to
make a new tenancy, and the verdict of the former court should remain in
force. There was money due to Mr. Kingsford from Mr. Lepper for rent,
beer, &c., to the amount of £60 18s. 6d.
Mr. Lepper said the fittings did not belong to Mr. Kingsford.
Mr. Bradley asked if he was ejected under the orders of the court.
Mr. Claris said he was an intruder, and was therefore put out.
The Bench granted the application.
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Folkestone Express 27 February 1869.
Wednesday, February 24th: Before Captain Kennicott R.N. and S. Eastes
Esq.
Transfer of License.
The Raglan Tavern – James Morford applied for a transfer, and the
application was supported by Mr. Claris.
Mr. Claris, in making the application, said the license was in Mr.
Lepper's name, and he refused to transfer it. His object in doing so was
to extort money from Mr. Kingsford, the brewer, to whom the house
belonged. He hoped the Bench would exercise the power they had, and
grant the application of his client notwithstanding this.
Mr. James Morford, sworn, said: I am the present occupier of the Raglan
Tavern. I know Mr. Lepper, and I took possession after he left. That was
on the 20th of January. The house was shut up. I have asked Mr. Lepper
to transfer the license, but he said he could not let me have it, as Mr.
Minter held it. I have also asked him to transfer; he said he could not
do so.
Mr. G. Lepper said this case has been pending since August last. Mr.
Minter could not attend as he is engaged in very important business.
Five men came to the house and turned him, Mr. Lepper, out, and at
present a case concerning that was in a superior Court. The landlord
broke his agreement with me by not supplying me with any beer.
Mr. Claris: So the real facts of the case are these: that the August
County Court gave Mr. Kingford power to eject Mr. Lepper in ten days;
then Mr. Minter gave notice of appealing to a superior Court,
consequently nothing could be done till October, when Mr. Minter said he
could not appeal as Mr. Kingsford had admitted Mr. Lepper as tenant. At
the next Court the time had expired for the appeal to be made, and
consequently he, the speaker, sent some men there to turn out Mr. Lepper,
leaving him to take such steps as he thought proper. Mr. Kingsford has
not received one farthing of rent during the time Mr. Lepper has been
his tenant, and he has been put to expenses amounting to £60 18s. 6d.,
besides the cost of an ex parte injunction, and it will be impossible to
get any of this back.
Mr. Lepper: There is £30 2s. 8d. due to me for work done in the house.
Mr. Claris: We were compelled to carry out these extraordinary measures,
and although Mr. Lepper was not ejected under the process of the Court,
there is no doubt he was simply an intruder. We had a judgement from the
County Court, but the time had just expired. His conduct during the time
he had been connected with Mr. Kingsford would not bear investigation.
Mr. Lepper said Mr. Kingsford acknowledged him as his tenant. He was
sorry his solicitor was not there.
The Bench could see nothing to deter them from granting the license.
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Southeastern Gazette 1 March 1869.
Transfer of Licence.— James Morford, of the Raglan Tavern, applied for a
transfer of license from Lepper, the late occupier. Mr. Lepper opposed
the transfer. Mr. Claris supported the application on behalf of Mr.
Kingsford, brewer, of Dover, proprietor of the house. He addressed the
Bench, and entered into the details of the transactions that had taken
place between Mr. Lepper and his client, who was put to a great deal of
trouble and expense to obtain possession, having to resort to forcible
measures to eject the tenant, and now he did all he could to thwart the
present tenant in obtaining the license. Mr. Lepper alleged that he was
the injured party, but the bench did not entertain his statement, and
granted the license.
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Folkestone Chronicle 22 July 1871.
County Court.
Saturday July 15th: Before W.C. Scott Esq.
English v Lepper: This was a claim for a debt of over £2 for printing
and advertising. Defendant paid £1 18s. in Court and said that that was
all that was due, as the rest was overcharges, and was a debt incurred
before plaintiff's bankruptcy.
Plaintiff said he had bought his debts back at the time of his
bankruptcy.
The case was adjourned in order to allow defendant to obtain evidence
proving that he had been overcharged.
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Folkestone Express 13 January 1872.
Wednesday, January 10th: Before The Mayor and R.W. Boarer Esq.
Transfer of License.
The license of the Raglan Tavern was transferred from James Morford to
George Pearson.
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Folkestone Express 20 December 1873.
Wednesday, December 17th: Before The Mayor, R.W. Boarer and J. Kelcey
Esqs.
Mr. William Summers, who was formerly manager of the Naval Club in
London, and who came to Folkestone to manage the County Club, applied
for a temporary license to the Raglan Hotel, Dover Road, which was
granted, excellent testimonials as to character being produced. Mr.
Summers has also taken the Brewery Tap, Tontine Street.
Note: Date for Summers taking the Brewery Tap is at variance with
information in More Bastions.
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Folkestone Express 6 June 1874.
Wednesday, June 3rd: Before J. Kelcey, J. Hoad, and R.W. Boarer Esqs.
George Godden surrendered on bail to a charge of being drunk and
disorderly and using obscene language.
The evidence of P.C. Hogben showed that prisoner was creating a
disturbance in the bar of the Raglan Tavern, Dover Road, about six
o'clock on Tuesday evening, and witness removed him at the request of
Mr. Summers, the landlord. When prisoner got into the street he used
most abominable language in a tone loud enough to be heard by ladies
passing by in carriages, and some forty of fifty persons who had
assembled. He had also stripped, and wanted to fight the landlord.
Ordered to pay 18s., or 14 days' hard labour.
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Folkestone Chronicle 4 September 1875.
Notice.
Ancient Order Of Druids.
Cinque Ports Lodge 426
Raglan Tavern, Dover Road
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that TOM BURTONSHAW (formerly Secretary) having
been expelled from the above Order, he has no further connection with
this Lodge, his expulsion being confirmed by the Grand Lodge. Members
are CAUTIONED NOT TO PAY him any contributions to the Benefit Fund in
future.
James Borland, P.A.. President
C.J. Moore, P.A., Secretary
Folkestone, Sept. 2nd, 1875
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Folkestone Express 13 November 1875.
Monday, November 8th: Before The Mayor, R.W. Boarer, J. Tolputt and T.
Caister Esqs.
Jane Filmer was charged with stealing a quantity of pork and a cotton
pocket handkerchief, together of the value of 4s. 3d., the property of
Alfred Grimstead.
Prosecutor said he was a plasterer, living in Ship Street. On Saturday
evening he was in the Raglan Tavern, Dover Road, when prisoner came in,
accompanied by a sailor. Prosecutor had laid his handkerchief,
containing the pork, upon the settle, and, after finishing his ale, he
missed it. Prisoner and the sailor were also gone. He then gave
information to the police.
P.C. Keeler said that from information he received he went in search of
the prisoner, and found her at the Raglan Tavern at 9.30 on Saturday
evening. She had the handkerchief and pork produced under her arm.
Witness charged her with the robbery, when she said a friend of hers
named “Katie” had dropped it in the bar. Witness then took her into
custody.
In reply to the Bench, prisoner said she had no statement to make, and
she was then committed for trial.
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Southeastern Gazette 15 November 1875.
Local News.
At the police court, on Monday, before W. Wightwick, James Tolputt, R.W.
Boarer, and T. Caister, Esqs., Harriet Jane Payne, alias Jane Filmer,
was charged with stealing a joint of pork and a handkerchief, value
together 4s. 9d., the property of Alfred Grinstead.
Prosecutor was on Saturday evening in the Raglan Tavern, where he saw
the prisoner in company with a sailor. He missed the parcel after he had
been in the house about two minutes, and gave information to the police
the same evening.
P.C. Keeler deposed to finding prisoner at the Raglan about half-past
nine, with the bundle in her possession, partly covered by the cape she
was wearing. When asked for it she dropped it on the floor. She said
that a friend of hers had dropped it in the bar, and she took it in a
joke.
She was committed for trial.
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Folkestone Express 29 January 1876.
Quarter Sessions.
Monday, January 24th: Before J.J. Lonsdale Esq.
Jane Filmer was charged with stealing a quantity of pork, value 4s. 3d.,
the property of Alfred Grinstead, at the Raglan Tavern, Dover Road, on
the 6th November.
Mr. Croft appeared for the prosecution and said that the case was of so
simple a nature that it would not be necessary for him to go into
details. He would therefore at once proceed to call the evidence.
Alfred Grinstead said: I am a plasterer, living in Ship Street. On the
6th November I went into the Raglan Tavern, Dover Road. I had two
friends with me. I had also a parcel. The one produced is the same that
I had with me. I know it by the handkerchief with which it is wrapped
up. It was just after nine o'clock when I went into the Raglan, and I
saw the prisoner and a soldier there. I laid my bundle down on a chair
near to which the prisoner was standing. I laid it down whilst I paid
for three glasses of ale which I had called for. Whilst I was paying for
the ale, the prisoner left, and also the soldier, but I did not see them
go. I then missed the bundle and gave information to P.C. Keeler.
P.C. Keler said: On the 6th November from information received I went in
search of the prisoner, and found her in the Raglan Tavern. There was a
soldier with her. She had the parcel produced under her arm, and I asked
to look at it. She then let the parcel drop on to the floor. I examined
it, and found it had got meat in it. The meat was afterwards identified
by the prosecutor. I charged the prisoner with stealing it, when she
said that a friend of hers had left it for her to take care of. I then
took her into custody.
Prisoner in answer to the Court said that she took up the parcel
thinking it belonged to her friend. She had no idea that it belonged to
the prosecutor.
The Recorder having summed up the evidence, the jury, after retiring for
a short time, returned a verdict of Guilty, and the learned Recorder
sentenced the prisoner to six months' imprisonment with hard labour.
Wednesday, January 26th: Before The Mayor, Col. De Crespigny, R.W.
Boarer and T. Caister Esqs.
Mr. Summers, landlord of the Raglan Tavern, applied for a special
license on the occasion of the annual dinner of the Manchester Unity of
Oddfellows on the 8th February.
Mr. Bradley (assistant Clerk to the Magistrates) said that it would be
necessary to make the application at the Petty Sessions immediately
preceding the date of the dinner.
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Folkestone Express 11 March 1876.
Wednesday, March 8th: Before J. Kelcey and R.W. Boarer Esqs., and
General Armstrong.
William Seabrooke and Robert Elliott were charged with being deserters
from the Royal Artillery, stationed at Dover.
Both pleaded Guilty.
Superintendent Wilshere said from information he received he went in
search of the prisoners on Tuesday night, and found them at the Raglan
Tavern. He charged them with being deserters, when they said they were
engineers. Assistance was procured and they were conveyed to the police
station.
The Bench ordered them to be handed over to the military authorities.
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Folkestone Express 21 April 1877.
Saturday, April 14th: Before The Mayor, General Armstrong, Colonel De
Crespigny, W.J. Jeffreason Esq., and Alderman Caister.
Philip Cox, a mariner, was summoned for being drunk and disorderly and
using obscene language in Dover Street. The prisoner pleaded Guilty.
P.C. Ovenden deposed on Saturday evening he was called to the Raglan
Tavern, where he found the prisoner, who then walked out in company with
some other men. He had got but a short distance down Dover Road when he
fell to the ground. His friends got him up but he immediately fell down
again. On both occasions he used offensive and indecent expressions. The
prisoner then went into the Crown And Anchor, to which witness was
shortly after called to eject him. This he did, and the prisoner was
taken home by some friends. Witness said that there had been frequent
complaints about the prisoner's conduct and bad language in Dover
Street.
The Bench fined the prisoner 5s. and costs for being drunk and
disorderly, and 5s. and 8s. costs for using obscene language, the
alternative in each case being seven days' hard labour.
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Folkestone Express 21 July 1877.
Saturday, July 14th: Before J. Clarke Esq., Alderman Caister, and
General Armstrong.
George Hall was summoned for being drunk in the Dover Road on the 6th
March last. Defendant pleaded Not Guilty.
P.C. Keeler stated that he was on duty in the High Street on the 6th
March last, and was sent for to the Raglan Tavern. He went, and in the
bar found the defendant lying on a form, speechless drunk. He obtained a
conveyance and took him to the station. Upon searching defendant he
found a bottle of whisky (produced) in his pocket. Dr. Mercer was sent
for and defendant was taken to the Union next day.
Superintendent Wilshere stated that he was at the station on the 6th
March when the defendant was brought to the station insensible. He
immediately sent for Dr. Mercer, who said “The man is gorged with drink.
Nature might recover itself, but he is so far gone as to be dead”. Dr.
Mercer and Dr. Bateman called all that night and the next day, and
defendant was removed to the Union.
The Bench fined defendant 5s. and 10s. costs, or in default seven days'
imprisonment.
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Folkestone Express 27 April 1878.
Wednesday, April 24th: Before The Mayor, General Armstrong, Captain
Crowe, W.J. Jeffreason, J. Kelcey and R.W. Boarer Esqs., and Aldermen
Caister and Sherwood.
Temporary authority was granted to Mr. William Harrison Marsh to carry
on the Raglan Tavern, Dover Road.
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Folkestone Express 20 September 1879.
Wednesday, September 17th: Before The Mayor, Alderman Hoad, J. Fitness,
M. Bell, and R.W. Boarer Esqs.
The license of the Raglan Tavern was transferred from William Marsh to
William Cheeseman.
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Folkestone Express 23 June 1883.
Wednesday, June 20th: Before R.W. Boarer Esq., Alderman Hoad, and
General Armstrong.
The transfer of the license for the Raglan was confirmed.
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Folkestone Express 1 November 1884.
Wednesday, October 29th: Before Captain Crowe, F. Boykett and A.M.
Watkin Esqs.
Transfer Of Licence.
Temporary authority was granted to Joseph Muller with respect to the
Raglan Tavern.
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Folkestone Express 2 May 1885.
Wednesday, April 29th: Before The Mayor, Aldermen Caister and Sherwood,
Captain Fletcher, J. Fitness, J. Clark, W.J. Jeffreason and J. Holden
Esqs.
The licence of the Raglan was transferred to Mr. Quinton.
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Folkestone News 2 May 1885.
Local News.
At the Police Court on Monday, before The Mayor, Captain Carter, J.
Fitness, T. Caister, J. Clark, W.J. Jeffreason, J. Sherwood and J.
Holden Esqs., the Raglan Tavern was transferred to Mr. Quinton.
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Folkestone Express 15 May 1886.
Saturday, May 8th: Before The Mayor, Captain Carter, and Alderman
Caister.
Alfred Swinborne, described as a flower seller, was charged with
stealing a watch, value £1, the property of William Watts.
Prosecutor said he lived at Canterbury. On Friday he saw the prisoner at
the Raglan Tavern, Dover Road, and entrusted him with a pawn ticket and
the money to go to Mr. Joseph's and redeem a watch and take it to him.
Prisoner did not return, and prosecutor gave information to the police.
The watch produced was his.
By the prisoner: You were not drunk, nor was I.
Joseph Whiting, of the Bricklayers' Arms, Fenchurch Street, said the
prisoner went to his house on Friday evening. He had been drinking, but
was not drunk. He offered the watch produced for sale for half a
sovereign. Witness told him he did not want it, and the prisoner went
away. Prisoner said he had found the watch.
Sergeant Pay said he went in search of the prisoner and found him in
Harbour Street. He told him the charge and took him into custody.
Prisoner said he didn't steal the watch. He took it out of pawn for a
gentleman, and afterwards could not find him.
Prisoner pleaded Guilty and was sentenced to one month's hard labour.
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Folkestone Express 22 December 1888.
Friday, December 13th: Before Colonel De Crespigny, Surgeon General
Gilbourne, and Alderman Banks.
John Davidson was charged with stealing a woollen shawl, and a silver
mounted walking stick, the property of some person unknown.
Sergeant Harman said he was in Dover Street about half past seven on
Thursday evening, in plain clothes, and from a communication he received
from Boat Inspector Brice, he watched the prisoner, who he saw come out
of the Perseverance beerhouse with the shawl over his shoulders and the
stick in his hand. He saw prisoner go into several shops and public
houses, and at half past eight followed him into the Raglan at the top
of Dover Street. He cautioned him and asked him where he got the shawl
and stick from. He replied “The shawl belongs to me. It was my mother's.
I didn't steal the stick. It belongs to some gentleman”. He took him to
the police station and charged him on suspicion of stealing the
articles, and detained him for enquiries to be made. Prisoner said he
did not steal the stick; he only took it. There was a lot of flymen in
the house at the time. He asked prisoner what house, and he said he
would go back and show him, but witness declined to go. Prisoner was
under the influence of drink, and made no reply at the station to the
charge.
Superintendent Taylor asked for a remand in order that he might trace
the owner of the stick, which had on the silver knob the initials “F.C.S.”
On Saturday the accused was again brought up, and there being no further
evidence adduced, he was discharged.
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Folkestone Chronicle 31 August 1889.
The Annual Folkestone Licensing Sessions were held at the Town Hall on
Wednesday, before Dr. Bateman and a full Bench.
Objection.
Objection was raised against the Raglan because the house had not been
conducted properly.
Mr. W. Mowll appeared for the owners, Beer and Co., and promised to see
that the house was conducted better in the future.
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Folkestone Express 31 August 1889.
Wednesday, August 28th: Before Dr. Bateman, Captain Carter, J. Hoad, J.
Clarke, H.W. Poole, J. Pledge and F. Boykett Esq.
The General Annual Licensing Meeting was held on Wednesday.
All the old licenses were renewed without opposition or comment except
the following:-
The Raglan Tavern: In this case the Superintendent said the house had
not been conducted in a satisfactory manner during the twelve months,
but he had been unable to get a case strong enough to prosecute.
Mr. Mowll, on behalf of Messrs. Beer, the owners, said they were very
anxious their houses should be conducted in a proper manner.
Applicant said he had not been cautioned by the police during the four
years and nine months he had been there.
Supt. Taylor said the house was the resort of loose women. He had
brought the matter to the notice of the owners. The licence was granted.
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Folkestone Express 9 December 1893.
Wednesday, December 6th: Before H.W. Poole, W. Wightwick and W.G.
Herbert Esqs., and Surgeon General Gilbourne.
Temporary authority was granted to Frederick William Cullen to sell at
the Raglan Tavern.
Note: Date for this is at variance with More Bastions.
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Folkestone Chronicle 7 June 1895.
Local News.
At the Borough Police Court on Wednesday the licence of the Raglan Hotel
was transferred to Mr. Robson.
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Folkestone Express 8 June 1895.
Wednesday, June 5th: Before C.J. Pursey and W. Wightwick Esqs.
The licence of the Raglan Tavern was transferred to W.T. Robson.
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Folkestone Express 24 October 1896.
Local News.
On Saturday last Sidney Thomas Robson, of the Raglan Tavern, was
summoned for selling liquor at prohibited hours. Sergt. Swift deposed to
finding the house open at 11.30 on the night of the 5th inst., and
several people were playing at “nap”. The defence was that the defendant
had entertained his friends at supper, and the Magistrates dismissed the
summons. On a second summons, for permitting gambling with cards, the
defendant was convicted, and fined 10s. and 14s. costs.
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Folkestone Express 7 August 1897.
Friday, July 30th: Before C.J. Pursey Esq., and Alderman Salter.
John Bowden, an outporter, was charged with being drunk and disorderly
in Dover Road on Thursday evening. Prisoner pleaded Guilty.
P.C. Watson said on Thursday evening he saw prisoner ejected from the
Raglan Hotel. He used most filthy language and he had to be taken into
custody.
Prisoner, who had been previously convicted for a similar offence, was
fined 10s. and 4s. 6d. costs, or in default seven days'. Defendant was
refused time for payment, and went to prison.
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Folkestone Up To Date 9 July 1898.
Saturday, July 2nd: Before Ald. Banks, J. Pledge, J. Fitness, and T.J.
Vaughan Esqs.
License was transferred to Mr. King, of the Raglan Tavern, Dover Road.
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Folkestone Chronicle 6 August 1898.
Wednesday, August 3rd: Before Messrs. J. Pledge, W.G. Herbert, W.
Wightwick, and C.J. Pursey.
Mr. Henry King was granted permission to sell at the Raglan Tavern.
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Folkestone Herald 6 August 1898.
Police Court Report.
On Wednesday licence was granted to Mr. Henry King, Raglan Tavern.
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Folkestone Up To Date 6 August 1898.
Wednesday, August 3rd: Before J. Pledge, W.C. Herbert, W. Wightwick, and
C.J. Pursey esqs.
Transfer was sanctioned to Mr. Henry King, Raglan Tavern, corner of
Dover Street and Dover Road.
Hythe Reporter 13 August 1898
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Folkestone Police Court.
At the sitting of the Bench of Magistrates last Wednesday, the following
licence was transferred:
Mr. Harry King was granted a transfer of the licence of the Raglan
Tavern.
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Folkestone Daily News 15 February 1905.
Inquest.
An inquest was held this (Wednesday) afternoon by the Borough Coroner (G.W.
Haines Esq.) on the body of G. Mitchell, of 9, Grosvenor Mansions,
London, an estate agent.
Charles William Stewart, decorator, of 6, Upper Park Street, Islington,
identified the body as that of his brother-in-law. Deceased, who was 30
years of age, was developing a building estate, and resided where he
carried on his business. His wife was still alive. He left home
on Saturday evening, saying he was going to Paris to transact some
business with a Mr. Raggerty, for whom he was managing an estate.
Witness saw him six or eight months since, but knew nothing of his
affairs.
William Adams, of the coastguard station, Sandgate, deposed that he
found the body at 7 a.m. on the beach on the Lower Sandgate Road, near
the western Lift. He was returning from Folkestone to Sandgate. Tide was
ebbing, and it would be high water at 5.10 a.m. Deceased was fully
dressed, excepting his hat, and had on a long coat with a collar. He was
lying flat on his face, with his right arm extended. A glove was on the
hand, and the face was bleeding. Witness gave information to the police,
and saw the deceased undressed at the mortuary.]
Henry King, landlord of the Raglan Hotel, deposed: I identify the body
as that of a man whom I had seen at the Alexandra Hotel the night
previous. I asked him if he was staying at Folkestone, and he said “No,
I have come from Paris tonight”. He left the Alexandra at 11 o'clock and
went round by the Royal George. He seemed cheerful and rational. In
conversation he said he was seasick when he went on the sea. He was
perfectly sober. I noticed his coat was muddy as if he had been sitting
down. He said nothing as to where he was going, but kept on smoking
cigarettes. He paid for mine and Mr. Barber's drinks with half a crown,
and told tales and laughed heartily. I was surprised when I heard he had
no stick or bag. I did not notice if he was wearing a ring.
Dr. Thornton Gilbert deposed: I went to the mortuary to see the body,
and found no marks of violence except on his face and scalp, which I
should say was caused by the pebbles and stones on the beach. There was
a lot of sand in his mouth and nostrils. I should say he died from
drowning. I was told that when they stripped him his body was still
warm, so he could not have been in the water long. He had been shaved
about three hours before going into the water. He had a double row of
teeth at the top, and one finger had the appearance of having had a ring
on.
E. Chadwick deposed that he attended at the mortuary yesterday morning
and saw the body. The deceased had on him 1s. 3d., a watch, a pair of
links, and a pair of gold spectacles. The watch had stopped at 2.20.
A verdict of “Died from drowning” was returned, there being no evidence
to show how the deceased got into the water.
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Folkestone Chronicle 18 February 1905.
Inquest.
On Wednesday afternoon the Borough Coroner, Mr. G.W. Haines, and a jury
inquired into the circumstances surrounding the death of a well-dressed
stranger, who was found dead within a yard of the water on the Lower
Sandgate Road on Tuesday morning. Many rumours of a more or less
startling nature had been circulated during the day. It was therefore
very satisfactory when it was known that the body had been identified,
and that a possible chain of circumstances would be given in evidence. –
such at least as would point almost conclusively as to how and by what
means deceased met his death.
Charles Edward Stewart, of 6, Upper Park Street, Islington, said: I am a
builder and decorator. I identify the body now viewed by the jury as
that of Frederick Mitchell, an estate agent, of 9, Grosvenor Mansions,
Victoria, London, S.W. He was developing a building estate for another
gentleman. I should say he was about 30 years of age. Deceased was my
brother-in-law. His wife is still alive.
The Coroner: Is his wife present here today?
Witness: No; I could find her in two or three minutes.
The Coroner: Do you know when he left Grosvenor Mansions last?
Witness: On Saturday to go to Paris to see the gentleman for whom he
carries on business transactions. The man's name is Rafferty, and his
London address is Grosvenor Mansions. It is six or eight months since I
saw the deceased. I do not know much about his affairs, neither does his
wife.
William Adams, a Coastguard attached to the Sandgate Division, said:
Yesterday at 7.30 in the morning I was returning from Folkestone to
Sandgate, when opposite the new lift I saw a body lying about one yard
clear of the water. The water was ebbing. It was high tide at 10.05
a.m., and was then quarter ebb. Deceased was fully dressed, with the
exception of his hat. He had a long coat with the fur collar turned up
over the head. The body was face downward, with the right arm extended,
and the fingers all out so (flat). A glove was on one hand. I
immediately gave information to the police, and accompanied the body to
the mortuary.
Henry King, sworn, said: I am licensee of the Raglan Hotel, Dover Road.
The body now lying at the mortuary I identify as that of a man I saw on
Monday night. I went into the Alexandra Hotel about 10 o'clock in the
evening. The man was dressed in an overcoat with an astrakhan collar,
had prominent teeth, and was very good looking. I sat down beside him,
and asked of he was staying in Folkestone. He said “Oh, no!”, and told
me he had just come over from Paris. At eleven o'clock he wished Mr.
Barber and I goodnight, and walked off round by the George. He seemed
perfectly cheerful and rational. I noticed that his overcoat round the
bottom and his boots were covered in mud.
The Coroner: What was he drinking?
Witness: Whisky hot.
The Coroner: Was he sober?
Witness: Quite.
Continuing: He did not say where he was going. In conversation, he said
he did not like the sea travelling as it always made him sick. When he
paid for the drink I think he put down 2s. 6d., and I believe had 1s.
9d. change. When he went out I said to Mr. Barber “What a nice fellow he
seems”. He had been laughing and we had been telling each other tales.
The Chief Constable: Was he carrying a bag or anything?
Witness: No.
Dr. W.T. Gilbert deposed: By your orders (the Coroner's) I went to the
mortuary this morning, and saw the body in the same position as you have
now seen. I found no marks of violence, blows or contusions, except on
the face and scalp. I was told that he was found on the pebbles. The
wounds were quite superficial, and would not account for death. I was
told that there was a lot of sand in his mouth and nostrils. I should
say that he died from drowning. The only evidence I got was that when
they were stripping deceased his body was still warm. On looking at his
upper lip I should say that he had been shaved within three hours of
getting into the water. He had a very peculiar condition, that is, he
had a double row of teeth in the upper jaw. His little finger showed the
mark of having worn a ring. I could not detect any smell of drink; that
would be neutralised by the water.
Edwin John Chadwick, Town Sergeant, sworn, said: I attended the mortuary
yesterday morning and undressed the deceased, and took an inventory of
all he was wearing. This included (among other things) a 14 ct. gold
watch and chain, 1s. 3d. in money, two stones, a leather case with card
case attached, with an envelope, on which was written the address – F.
Mitchell, care of Mr. Rafferty, 9 Grosvenor Mansions – a compass and two
sleeve links.
The Coroner directed Mr. Stewart to go and fetch Mrs. Mitchell, but
after some minutes the witness returned to the Court. He informed the
Coroner that deceased's wife had taken some rooms in Victoria Grove, but
he could not find her. She had not attended the Court as she had not
thought it necessary. Had she known that she was wanted to attend, she
would readily have come to the Court. Deceased, witness said, did not
tell his wife much about his business affairs.
The Chief Constable suggested to the Coroner that witness did know a
little more than he had stated.
The Coroner: Do you know whether the deceased had at any time threatened
to take his own life?
Witness: On a good many occasions he had said life was not worth living.
The Coroner: Was a letter received by his wife from Folkestone?
Witness: Not from Folkestone, but from Paris.
The Coroner: Do you know the contents of that letter?
Witness: No.
The Coroner: Who has it?
Witness: His wife.
The Coroner: Generally, what were the contents of that letter?
Witness: That since he had arrived in Paris he had come to the
conclusion that his journey was a failure, and that he had no hope for
the future in life.
The Coroner then addressed the jury and reviewed the evidence, drawing
particular attention to the doctor's evidence, which negative any
suggestion of violence.
The jury at once returned a verdict that deceased was found drowned.
There were no marks of violence, and no evidence to show how deceased
entered the water.
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Folkestone Express 18 February 1905.
Inquest.
An inquest was held on Wednesday afternoon at the Town Hall, Folkestone,
on the body of Frederick Mitchell, a house and estate agent, og
Grosvenor Mansions, Victoria, S.W. The body was found the previous
morning on the beach by a coastguardsman. The Borough Coroner (Mr. G.W.
Haines) conducted the enquiry.
Charles Edward Stewart, a builder and decorator, of 6, Upper Park
Street, Islington, said he identified the body as that of Frederick
Mitchell, of Grosvenor Mansions, Victoria, a house and estate agent, in
business for himself. He was woth three or four other gentlemen
developing a building estate. Deceased's age was about 30, an was the
brother-in-law of witness. His wife was in Folkestone, but was ill. On
Saturday evening the deceased left Grosvenor Mansions. He said he was
going to transact some business for the gentleman for whom he carried on
an estate. The gentleman's name was Patrick Rafferty. Witness last saw
the deceased about six months back. He did not know, nor did the
deceased's wife know much about his affairs.
William Adams, a coastguard, attached to the Sandgate Station, said the
previous morning at 7.30 he was returning from Folkestone to Sandgate,
and when opposite the new lift he saw the body lying about a yard from
the water, which had just left him. High water was at ten minutes past
five. Deceased was fully dressed, with the exception of the hat, with a
heavy greatcoat on. The body was lying flat on the face with the right
arm extended, the fingers of the hand also lying out flat. Witness could
not see any hat near. The body was bleeding from the face, which
appeared to be bruised through coming into contact with the rocks.
Henry King, licensee of the Raglan Hotel, Dover Road, said he had seen
the body lying at the mortuary, and he identified it as that of a man
who he was with on Monday night for about an hour. He met the deceased
in the Alexandra Hotel about ten o'clock in the evening. Witness asked
him if he was staying in Folkestone, and he replied he was not. He also
said he had come from Paris that night by the boat at nine o'clock. At
eleven o'clock they came out of the hotel, and the deceased left them at
the door going round at the George. He appeared very rational and quite
cheerful. He said, however, that he dreaded the sea because he was
always sick when he went on it. He had been drinking hot whisky but was
quite sober. From the bottom of his coat for about a foot up there was a
lot of mud, and it looked as though the deceased had been sitting down
in it. Deceased did not say where he was going. He paid for the drinks
with half a crown. He did not appear to witness as though he was
suffering from mental depression. Deceased was wearing a hard hat.
Witness did not notice whether he was wearing a ring.
Dr. Gilbert said he went to the mortuary that morning and saw the body.
On examining it he found no marks of violence, or contusions except on
the face and scalp. The marks, he considered, were caused by the action
of stones and pebbles. There was a lot of sand about. The wounds were
quite superficial, and would not account for death. There was a lot of
sand in the mouth and nostrils; in fact the latter were choked up. He
should say deceased died from drowning. He was told that when the body
was stripped it was warm, so deceased could not have been in the water
many hours. Looking at his upper lip he should say the deceased had been
shaved within three hours of getting into the water. Deceased had a
double row of front teeth – a peculiar physical condition. On the left
hand there were marks as though he had worn a ring on the little finger.
Witness could not smell any evidence of drink, which, however, would be
neutralised by the water he swallowed.
Adams, re-called, said there was a lot of sand where he found the
deceased.
Edwin J. Chadwick, the Coroner's Officer, said he went to the mortuary
the previous morning and undressed the body. In the pockets of deceased
he found a pair of compasses, two stones, a leather case with card case
attached, containing an envelope which bore the name F. Mitchell. There
was also a 14 carat gold watch, a gold chain, a pair of gold links, and
1s. 3d. on him. He had no ring upon him.
The Coroner, in summing up, said there was no suggestion that Mitchell
had been robbed, and no marks about him of any violence.
Mr. Stewart, who had been in search of the deceased's wife, returned and
said he could not find her. He further stated that deceased always made
a deal more of things than what he ought to. Mrs. Mitchell had the
impression that there was no need for her to attend. She had received a
letter from her husband posted at Paris in which he said he had come to
the conclusion his journey was a failure and he did not think there was
any prospect in future life.
The Coroner's Officer stated that deceased's watch stopped at 2.20.
The jury returned a verdict of “Found Drowned”, but how deceased got
into the water, there was no evidence to show.
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Folkestone Herald 18 February 1905.
Inquest.
An inquest was held by the Borough Coroner (Mr. G.W. Haines), on
Wednesday, upon a body which was found on Folkestone beach on Tuesday
morning.
The deceased was identified by Charles Wm. Stewart, a builder and
decorator, residing at 6, Upper Park Road, Islington, as Frederick
Mitchell, his brother-in-law, a house and estate agent, of 9, Grosvenor
Mansions, Victoria, London. Witness could not say how old deceased was,
but guessed about thirty. Mr. Mitchell had carried on business at his
residence, as far as he could state, and left Grosvenor Mansions on
Saturday evening to transact business with a man named Rafferty, as he
said. Witness did not know much about the affairs of deceased.
The Coroner, on being told that the dead man's widow was in Folkestone,
desired that she should be called.
William Adams, Coastguard, of Sandgate Station, stated that he found the
body on the beach about 7.30 a.m. on Tuesday, opposite the new lift. The
water had just left him, being about a yard away, high tide occurring
about 5.10 a.m. on that morning. He was well-dressed, having on a heavy
greatcoat with an astrakhan collar turned up, but no hat, and was lying
on his face with his right arm extended. He had one glove on. The
clothes were soaked through, and had a quantity of sand adhering. There
was some blood on his face. Witness gave information to the police.
Henry King, licensee of the Raglan Hotel, stated that he saw deceased in
the Alexandra Hotel on Monday evening, and could identify him because of
his prominent teeth. He was with him for an hour on Monday night. When
deceased was asked if he was staying in Folkestone, he replied “Oh, no”.
Witness described him to an acquaintance, on that occasion, as a very
nice fellow, and stated that he was very rational, and told tales,
laughed, and altogether left no room for the slightest suspicion that he
was even downhearted, much less contemplating suicide. The only thing
deceased said that was in any way disagreeable was that when he went on
the water he was always sick. He had returned from Paris that evening.
During the evening he drank whisky, and was smoking all the time. In
payment he put down half a crown, and received in change about 1s.
Witness noticed that his boots were covered with mud, as also was his
coat about a foot from the bottom. He wore a clean white shirt, collar,
and cuffs, and was, on the whole, well dressed. When he left, with his
hands in his pockets, about 11 p.m., he was quite sober, and wished them
a cheerful goodnight.
Dr. J.W. Thornton Gilbert stated that he found no marks of violence on
the body, except slight wounds on the face and scalp. There were no
bruises or contusions. He considered the wounds due to the actions of
the stones, pebbles, etc. The mouth and nostrils were choked with sand,
and he considered deceased had died from drowning. Asked how long the
body had been in the water, the doctor stated that he had no direct
evidence on that point, but the body was warm when stripped. The upper
lip had been shaved within three hours, not by artificial means, but
through some cause while in the water. He had a peculiar double row of
front teeth in the upper jaw, and a ring mark on his little finger.
There was no smell of drink. If there had been originally, the water
would have eradicated it.
William Adams, on being re-called, stated that a large amount of sand
was on that part of the beach.
Edwin J. Chadwick, Coroner's Officer, stated that he searched deceased
at the mortuary, and found on him a pair of compasses, a 14 carat gold
watch and chain, and a letter with his name and address upon it; also a
leather purse.
Upon being asked if there was any suggestion of suicide, Mr. Stewart
stated that Mrs. Mitchell had received a letter from Paris from
deceased, containing something to the effect that since he reached Paris
he had come to the conclusion that his journey was a failure and that he
had no hopes or future prospects in life.
The jury returned a verdict of “Found drowned, but that there was no
evidence to show how deceased came to be in the sea”.
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Folkestone Herald 18 March 1905.
Monday, March 13th: Before The Mayor, Alderman G. Spurgen, Alderman T.J.
Vaughan, Councillor G. Peden, Councillor R.J. Fynmore, Mr. E.T. Ward,
and Mr. W.C. Carpenter.
John Bexhill, alias Hiriam Heisden, was charged with being drunk and
disorderly in Dover Street on Saturday night.
P.S. Laurence stated that after 11 p.m. prisoner was shouting and
challenging someone to fight. At the Raglan Hotel he threw down his hat
and offered to fight again. Witness took him into custody. Prisoner
became violent, and witness closed with him, there being a struggle on
the ground for about ten minutes. P.C. Prebble came to the assistance of
witness, and prisoner was handcuffed, and his legs tied. He was so
violent that his boots had to be taken off. P.S. Laurence said he had
known him for thirteen years, but had never known him to work.
Prisoner was sent to prison for a month, with hard labour. As he left
the dock, accused remarked to the Magistrates “You don't keep me; I keep
myself”.
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Folkestone Daily News 12 April 1905.
Wednesday, April 12th: Before Messrs. Spurgen, Carpenter and Fynmore.
The Bench approved plans for alterations at the Raglan Tavern.
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Folkestone Express 15 April 1905.
Wednesday, April 12th: Before Lieut. Col. Fynmore, and W.C. Carpenter
Esq.
The Bench approved of plans for alterations at the Raglan Tavern.
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Folkestone Herald 15 April 1905.
Wednesday, April 11th: Before Mr. W.C. Carpenter and Councillor R.J.
Fynmore.
Mr. King applied for the approval of a change of plans in the Raglan.
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Folkestone Express 23 February 1907.
Wednesday, February 20th: Before E.T. Ward Esq., Aldermen Vaughan and
Spurgen, Lieut. Colonel Fynmore, and T. Ames and C. Jenner Esqs.
The licence of the Raglan Hotel, Dover Road, was temporarily transferred
from Mr. H. King to Mr. C.H. Barker.
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Folkestone Herald 23 February 1907.
Wednesday, February 20th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Aldermen G. Spurgen and
T.J. Vaughan, Councillor J. Jenner, and Messrs. R.J. Fynmore and T.
Ames.
The licence of the Raglan Inn, Dover Road, was temporarily transferred
from Charles Hy. Barker to Hy. Keene.
Note: This appears to be a mix-up and misnaming. This should be from
King to Barker.
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Folkestone Express 2 March 1907.
Wednesday, February 27th: Before W.G. Herbert Esq., Major Leggatt, R.J.
Linton and G. Boyd Esqs.
The following licence was transferred: The Raglan Tavern, from Mr. H.
King to Mr. C.H. Barker.
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Folkestone Herald 2 March 1907.
Wednesday, February 27th: Before Alderman W.G. Herbert, Major Leggett,
Councillor G. Boyd, and Mr. R.J. Linton.
The licence of the Raglan Tavern was transferred from Mr. Henry Kingsley
(sic) to Mr. Charles Henry Barker.
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Folkestone Daily News 4 March 1907.
Adjourned Licensing Sessions.
Monday, March 4th: Before Messrs. Ward, Fynmore, Linton, Boyd, Herbert,
Pursey, Carpenter, Leggett, and Hamilton.
The transfers of the licences of the Bricklayers Arms and The Raglan
were confirmed.
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Folkestone Express 9 March 1907.
Adjourned Licensing Sessions.
The adjourned licensing sessions were held on Monday at the Police
Court, when the principal business to be considered was whether or not
the five licences should be referred to the East Kent Licensing
Committee for compensation. The Licensing Justices on the Bench were E.T.
Ward Esq., Lieut. Col. Fynmore, Lieut. Col. Hamilton, W.G. Herbert, C.J.
Pursey, R.J. Linton and W.C. Carpenter Esqs., while other justices
present were Major Leggett, Mr. G. Boyd, and Mr. J. Stainer.
The licences of the Raglan and the Bricklayers Arms, which had been
temporarily transferred since the annual licensing meeting, were
confirmed by the Justices.
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Folkestone Herald 9 March 1907.
Adjourned Licensing Sessions.
Monday, March 4th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Alderman W.G. Herbert, Lieut.
Colonel Hamilton, Councillors W.C. Carpenter and G. Boyd, and Messrs.
R.J. Fynmore, C.J. Pursey, R.J. Linton, and J. Stainer.
The renewal of the licence of the Raglan Hotel was granted to the new
tenant.
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Folkestone Daily News 13 February 1913.
Annual Licensing Sessions.
The Licensing Bench on Wednesday, February 12th, was constituted as
follows: Messrs. Ward, Boyd, Leggett, Swoffer, Stainer, Herbert, Fynmore,
Hamilton, and Linton.
The Chief Constable read his report (for which see Folkestone Express).
The Chairman said the report of the Chief Constable was very
satisfactory, but the Bench were still of opinion that there were too
many licensed houses in a certain portion of the town. Therefore a
number would have their licences withheld until the adjourned sessions
on the ground of redundancy. Formal opposition to the renewals would be
served so that full enquiries could be made into the trade of these
houses, with a view of referring some of them to the Compensation
Authority.
The following were the licences which were held over: The Raglan, Dover
Street; Oddfellows, Dover Street; Royal Oak, North Street; Isle of
Cyprus, Bayle; Lord Nelson, Radnor Street; Lifeboat, North Street;
Wellington, Beach Street.
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Folkestone Express 15 February 1913.
Annual Licensing Sessions.
The Brewster Sessions were held on Wednesday morning. The Justices
present were E.T. Ward Esq., Major Leggett, Lieut. Col. Fynmore, Lieut.
Col. Hamilton, G. Boyd, G.I. Swoffer, R.J. Linton, and J. Stainer Esqs.
Mr. Boyd and Mr. Stainer did not take part in the licensing business,
not being on the committee.
The Chief Constable read his report as follows: Gentlemen, I have the
honour to report that there are at present within your jurisdiction 119
places licensed for the sale of intoxicating liquor by retail, viz.,
Full Licences 73, Beer On 7, Beer Off 6, Beer and Spirit Dealers Off 15,
Grocers, etc. Off 9, Confectioners' Wine On 3, Chemists Wine Off 5. This
gives an average, according to the Census of 1911, of one licence to
every 281 persons, or one on licence to every 418 persons. As compared
with the return submitted last year this is a decrease of two licences.
At the general annual licensing meeting last year a new licence was
granted for the sale of beer off the premises at Morehall, and two other
off licences were discontinued.
At the last adjourned general annual licensing meeting the renewal of
the licence of the Rendezvous Hotel was referred to the Compensation
Committee on the ground of redundancy, and at the meeting of that
Committee on the 7th August, 1912, the licence was refused, and after
payment of compensation the house was closed for the sale of drink on
the 28th December last.
During the past year fifteen of the licences have been transferred; one
licence was transferred twice.
Six occasional licences have been granted for the sale of drink on
premises not ordinarily licensed for such sale, and 34 extensions of the
usual time of closing have been granted to licence holders on special
occasions.
During the year ended 31st December last 85 persons (62 males and 23
females) were proceeded against for drunkenness; 64 were convicted and
21 discharged.
In the preceding year 54 males and 31 females were proceeded against, of
whom 66 were convicted and 19 discharged.
The number convicted of drunkenness last year, viz., 46 males and 18
females, is, I find, the smallest number convicted in any year since
1896.
Of those proceeded against, 31 were residents of the Borough, 34 were
persons of no fixed abode, 13 residents of other districts and seven
were soldiers.
No conviction has been recorded against any licence holder during the
past year. Proceedings were taken against the holder of an off licence
for a breach of the closing regulations, but the case was dismissed.
Eleven clubs where intoxicating liquor is sold are registered in
accordance with the Act of 1902.
There are 17 places licensed for music and dancing, eight for music
only, and two for public billiard playing.
I have no complaint to make as to the conduct of any of the licensed
houses, and offer no opposition to the renewal of any of the present
licences on the ground of misconduct.
The Chairman said it was a very satisfactory report indeed, but they
felt that there were still too many licensed houses, particularly in
certain portions of the Borough, and the Justices would direct that a
certain number of the applications for renewal should be deferred till
the Adjourned Sessions, so that they might have evidence as to the trade
those houses were doing, and decide whether any of them ought to be
referred to the Compensation Authority.
The houses to be dealt with were seven in number, namely; the Raglan
Tavern, the Oddfellows, the Royal Oak, the Isle of Cyprus, the Lord
Nelson, the Lifeboat, and the Wellington.
With those exceptions the existing licences were granted.
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Folkestone Herald 15 February 1913.
Annual Licensing Sessions.
Wednesday, February 12th: Before Mr. E.T. Ward, Lieut. Col. Fynmore,
Lieut. Col. Hamilton, Major Leggett, Mr. W.G. Herbert, Mr. J. Stainer,
and Mr. G. Boyd.
The Chief Constable presented his annual report (for which see
Folkestone Express).
The Chairman remarked that the report was a very satisfactory one, but,
in the opinion of the Bench, there were still too many public houses in
certain portions of the town, and they would defer the renewal of
certain of the licences to the adjourned sessions, so that they might
have evidence as to what trade they were doing, and see if any of them
were to be referred to the compensation authority.
The licensees of the Raglan Tavern, the Oddfellows, Dover Street, the
Royal Oak, North Street, the Isle of Cyprus, the Lord Nelson, the
Lifeboat, and the Wellington were called forward.
The Chairman said the renewal of the licences of those public houses
would be deferred until the adjourned licensing sessions, and notice of
opposition would be served in the meantime on the ground of redundancy.
The Chief Constable would be directed to serve the notices.
The licences of all the other houses were then renewed.
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Folkestone Daily News 10 March 1913.
Adjourned Licensing Sessions.
Monday, March 10th: Before Messrs. Ward, Hamilton, Stainer, Herbert,
Harrison, Morrison, Linton, Boyd, Stace, Jenner, and Giles.
There was again a large crowd in Court on Monday morning, when the fate
of 7 licensed houses (referred for redundancy) hung in the balance.
At the commencement of the proceedings the Chief Constable said the
Bench had to consider the seven licences adjourned from the annual
sessions on the ground of redundancy. He invited the Bench to hear the
evidence in regard to such houses separately and give a decision after
hearing all the evidence.
The Raglan.
Tenant, C.H. Marker, brewers, Geo. Beer & Co., rateable value £36.
The Chief Constable offered the same objections.
Mr. Mowll appeared to ask for the renewal of the licence.
The barrelage in the case of the Raglan was given as 1910, 176 barrels,
126 gallons of spirits, 1911, 205 barrels of beer, 111 gallons of
spirits, 1912, 214 barrels of beer, 157 gallons of spirits.
The Bench retired at 4 p.m., and returned at 4.10, the Chairman
announcing that the Lord Nelson and the Isle of Cyprus would be referred
to Canterbury and the other five licences would be renewed.
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Folkestone Express 15 March 1913.
Adjourned Licensing Sessions.
At the annual licensing sessions seven licences were deferred to the
adjourned sessions, which were held at the Town Hall on Monday. The
Magistrates on the Bench were E.T. Ward Esq., Lieut. Col. Hamilton,
Alderman Jenner, and W.G. Herbert, J. Stainer, R.J. Linton, G. Boyd, W.J.
Harrison, J.J. Giles, E.T. Morrison and A. Stace Esqs.
The Raglan Tavern.
Mr. R. Mowll asked for a renewal of the licence of the Raglan Tavern.
Mr. Reeve said the tenant was Mr. Charles Henry Baker, who obtained a
transfer on February 27th, 1907. The registered owners were Messrs. G.
Beer and Co. The rateable value was £36. The accommodation consisted of
a front bar, which was divided into two compartments by a partition six
feet high. Each compartment had a separate entrance from the street, one
in Dover Street, and the other at the corner. There was also an entrance
in Dover Road, which opened into a lobby, which was very dark, the only
light being obtained from a fanlight in the lobby. There was no yard or
back way. The landlord's living room was at the back. There was no
urinal provided for the customers. The nearest licensed house was the
Martello, 22 yards away, the rateable value of which was £44. The bars
were clean, and the premises were generally suitable, with the exception
that there was no urinal. He had no complaint to make as regarded the
conduct of the house. The trade, he should say, was small, and he did
not think there would be any difficulty in accommodating the customers
elsewhere.
Mr. Oliver, a member of the owning firm, said in 1910, 176 barrels of
beer and 123 gallons of spirits were sold, in 1911, 205 and 111, and in
1912, 211 barrels and 137 gallons of spirits.
The Chairman: Then the Budget does not seem to have decreased your
spirit trade. (Laughter)
Mr. Baker said he paid £261 1s. 5d. to go into the house, £244 being for
furniture and fittings. He did nothing else for a living, and did not
want to leave the house.
Mr. Mowll, in addressing the Justices, mentioned that the house formerly
belonged to Mr. Kingsford, who was his grandfather, and he chose that
excellent site for the premises. In a sense, therefore, it was a
personal matter, and he appealed to the Bench not to take away the
licence, so that when he came to Folkestone, as he often did, and passed
the house, he would not have to think that what his grandfather obtained
with a rake, he, his grandson, lost with a shovel. (Laughter)
The Magistrates retired, and on their return the Chairman announced that
the licences of the Lord Nelson and the Isle of Cyprus would be referred
to the Quarter Sessions. For those there would be provisional licences.
The five other licences would be renewed, but they thought that the
owners of the Wellington and the Raglan should consider the question of
the urinals.
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Folkestone Herald 15 March 1913.
Adjourned Licensing Sessions.
The adjourned Annual Folkestone Licensing Sessions were held at the
Police Court on Monday, when the licences of the seven houses deferred
at the Annual General Sessions came up for hearing. Mr. E.T. Ward was in
the chair, and he was supported by Mr. W.G. Herbert, Lieut. Colonel C.J.
Hamilton, Mr. J. Stainer, Mr. R.J. Linton, Mr. G. Boyd, Alderman C.
Jenner, Captain Chamier, Mr. J.J. Giles, Councillor W.J. Harrison, Mr.
E.T. Morrison and Councillor A. Stace.
The Raglan Tavern.
The Bench next considered the licence of the Raglan Tavern. Mr. Rutley
Mowll represented the owners.
The Chief Constable stated that the house was situated at the corner of
Dover Road and Dover Street. The licensee was Mr. Charles Henry Barker,
who obtained the transfer of the licence to himself in February of 1907.
The registered owners were Messrs. George Beer and Co., of Canterbury,
and the rateable value of the house was £36. The accommodation for the
public consisted of a front bar, divided into two compartments by a
partition about six feet high. Each compartment had a separate entrance
from the street – one in Dover Street, and the other at the corner.
There was also an entrance in Dover Road, which opened into a lobby
leading into a bar parlour. This bar parlour was dark, the only light
being obtained through the fanlight over the door communicating with the
lobby. There was no yard or backway. At the back was the landlord's
living room, into which there was a separate entrance from Dover Road,
but this door did not appear to have been used for some time. There was
no urinal whatever provided for customers on the premises, and
complaints had been made from time to time regarding nuisances arising
from this lack of provision. The nearest licensed house was nearly
opposite, the Martello, which was 22 yards away, and which had a
rateable value of £44. The next was the Railway Inn, in Dover Road, on
the left hand side as one went up to the Junction Station, which had a
rateable value of £28. The bars of the Raglan were clean, and the
premises generally were clean and suitable, with the exception of the
lack of provision he had referred to already. He had no complaints to
make as to the conduct of the house. He should say that the trade was a
small one, and he did not think that there would be any difficulty in
accommodating the customers of the house elsewhere.
Mr. F. Oliver said he was Manager for Messrs. Beer and Co. The Raglan
Tavern was a long leasehold house. The trade during the last three years
had been as follows: 1910, 176 barrels of beer, 123 gallons of spirits;
1911, 205 barrels of beer, 111 gallons of spirits; 1912, 214 barrels of
beer, 137 gallons of spirits.
Mr. Charles Henry Barker, the licensee, said that when he took over the
house he paid £261 6s. 5d. to go in, £244 of which was represented by
the furniture and fixtures. He had been entirely dependent on it, and
had done nothing else for a living. He had been making a living during
the last seven years.
Cross-examined by the Chief Constable: He had a small pension of
something under £3 a quarter.
In addressing the Magistrates, Mr. Rutley Mowll drew attention to
statement made by Lord Harris, in which he requested that local Justices
should take care not to send up to the Court for compensation houses
which were obviously doing a trade such as to make them not redundant.
Lord Harris stated that he did not hesitate to use such strong terms as
to say that to hold that a house using five barrels a week was redundant
was absolutely ridiculous. Proceeding, Mr. Mowll said if they took the
view that because there were other houses which could accommodate the
custom of a particular house, therefore they would take away the licence
of that house, they would be able to remove a great many. But that was
not the view of the question taken by the Compensation Authority. Mr.
Mowll concluded by stating that the Raglan originally belonged to Mr.
Kingsford. Now, Mr. Kingsford was his grandfather. He asked the
Magistrates to imagine his feelings when he came down from the Junction
Station, and saw the house which was put there by the wisdom of his
grandfather. If they deprived it of its licence that morning, when he
saw the house in future he would have to say “My grandfather got that
house in with the rake, and his grandson got rid of it with the shovel”.
(Laughter).
The Magistrates retired for a period to consider their decisions. On
their return the Chairman said that with regard to the Raglan, the Bench
would renew the licence, but they would like that in that case also the
urinal question should be attended to.
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Folkestone Daily News 3 March 1914.
Local News.
Great consternation was caused this (Tuesday) morning at the Police
Court when three licensed victuallers were summoned for selling
cigarettes between 6 and 7 on a Wednesday evening.
The Bench consisted of Alderman Vaughan, Messrs. Giles, Fynmore, Jenner,
Owen, and Boyd.
The defendants were Charles Henry Barker, John William Summerfield,
Edward William James, and Julia Willson. Mr. Holme appeared for the
defence, and the Town clerk prosecuted.
It appeared from the evidence that the defendants had been asked to
supply these goods, and were under the impression that they were exempt.
As everyone knows, the legislature never included licensed victuallers
in the Act, and Folkestone would never have heard of this prosecution
but for the action of a few bona fide tobacco dealers, who petitioned
the Corporation to ask the Home Office.
The case of Mr. Summerfield was taken first. Mr. Holme, for the
defendant, pleaded Not Guilty.
The Town Clerk, in opening the case, said the summons was issued under
the Shops Act, 1912, and this was the first case taken under the Act. He
proceeded to deal with the provisions of the Act, and the adoption of
the Order by the local authority in respect to tobacconists.
Harold Summerfield, and assistant in the Sanitary Inspector's Office,
said on February 18th he visited the Royal Standard, Canterbury Road, at
6.37 p.m. He entered the bar parlour and asked the assistant for a
packet of shag tobacco. At first the assistant refused to serve him, and
said “It is Wednesday afternoon, and I cannot serve you”. Witness said
“Thank you”, and walked towards the door. The assistant called him back,
and said “I'll oblige you this time. You must not tell anyone as we
should be getting into trouble”. He was served and paid 4d. for the
tobacco.
Cross-examined by Mr. Holmes: Witness did not know whether this public
house had any different features as regards the sale of tobacco to any
other house. So far as witness was concerned, it was a mere casual sale.
Mr. Holmes: A register is kept under the Act?
Witness: Yes.
Mr. Holme: Is the Royal Standard in the register?
The Town Clerk: No.
Mr. Holmes: Are any public houses in the register?
The Town Clerk: A few; the large ones.
Mr. Holmes: There is a notice in the Act which requires that every
person should be served with a notice.
The Town Clerk: I do not think the question should be put.
Mr. Holme: Very well, I'll get it from defendant that no such notice was
served.
The Town Clerk combatted the right to put the question and Mr. Holme
said for the present he would not press it.
The Town clerk: That closes my case.
Mr. Holme, opening the defence, dealt with the interpretation of the
Act, which had to be construed as an Act, which had to be considered as
the exception and not within the rule. He pointed out that if the Act
was to be seriously considered, he would take the early closing of fruit
shops. Why, absurd as the proposition was, it would equally apply to the
Metropole Hotel, where they could not supply vegetables and dessert on
Wednesday afternoons and evenings. Dealing with a circular from Mr.
McKenna, the Home Secretary, which pointed out that distinction could be
made between regular sale and casual sale, he said the prosecution had
admitted that exceptions had to be made, and having made exceptions and
got within the walls of the Act they must adopt a common-sense point of
view. The Act exempted licensed victuallers, unless brought in.
The Town Clerk: Not only licensed victuallers, but other people.
Mr. Holme: Yes, but licensed victuallers are included, and I am here
today for the licensed victuallers.
The Town clerk: I submit that it is not within the power of the Bench to
go into anything subsequent to the Act. The section says that the Order
is an Act of Parliament.
Mr. Holme: If the case goes to the High Court it is essential to get out
all the points. I contend that the Order was never intended to include
my clients.
Mr. Andrew advised the Bench to accept the Town Clerk's objection.
Mr. Holme: May I put my point? Can anything be more unfair than not to
consult the licensed victuallers, and then making an Order including
them in it? I do ask the Bench to consider the circumstances under which
the Order was made. The scheme of the Order says that before you bring
in an exempted class you must consult them. Voting papers must be sent
out, or an an alternative a petition from two thirds of the people
affected. The licensed victuallers were neither asked to vote,
consulted, or asked to sign. Proceeding, he seriously suggested that if
the local authority intended to make the Order, in all common sense the
first thing that authority should have done was consult those who they
brought within the Order.
The Town Clerk: Then not being a substantial part of the business, you
would not be entitled to vote.
Mr. A.J. Hart, secretary to the Licensed Victuallers' Association, said
he had inspected the register at the Town Clerk's office, and did not
find the name of a licensed victualler.
By Mr. Andrew: He did not look for the names of hotel keepers, as that
did not interest him.
Mr. Holme, the Town clerk, and Mr. Rutley Mowll discussed the legal
position with Mr. Andrew.
The Bench retired, and on returning said they considered the case
proved, but would not inflict any penalty on payment of costs.
The other cases were withdrawn.
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Folkestone Express 7 March 1914.
Local News.
On Tuesday a most important point with regard to the sale of tobacco by
licensed victuallers on the weekly half holiday occupied the attention
of the Folkestone Magistrates for close upon two hours and a half. The
Magistrates consisted of Colonel Fynmore, G. Boyd and J.J. Giles Esqs.,
and Col. Owen, and three licensed victuallers had been summoned.
The first case held was that of John William Summerfield, the licensee
of the Royal Standard, and he had been summoned for contravening Section
4 of the Shops Act by selling tobacco on Wednesday, February 18th, at
6.37 p.m., that being the weekly half holiday fixed by the Town Council.
Defendant pleaded Not uilty. Mr. A.F. Kidson (the Town Clerk)
prosecuted, and Mr. Randle F. Holme, of London, defended.
Mr. Kidson, in opening the case, said that was the first summons to come
before the Bench under that particular Act. He, therefore, thought he
ought to refer the Magistrates to the various Sections bearing on the
question. He then read Section 4 of the Act, which dealt with the
closing of shops on one half day of the week. He then pointed out that
the schedule exempted various trades, amongst which were the
tobacconists. He explained that sub-section 6 provided that the local
authority might by Order extend the provisions of the Act to the shops
of any class exempted if they were satisfied that at least two thirds of
the occupiers of the class of shop approved of the Order. The Council
did make an Order under that provision with regard to tobacconists, and
it was confirmed by the Home Secretary. By sub-section 7 of Section 4 it
was provided that in case of any contravention or failure to comply with
any of the provisions, the occupier of the shop would be guilty of an
offence, and would be liable to a fine, for the first offence, not
exceeding £1. That was the first case which had come before the Bench.
By Section 6, sub-section 3, as soon as the Secretary of State had
confirmed any Order that Order became final, and had the effect of an
Act of Parliament. Complaint was received that licensed victuallers were
infringing that Order, therefore it became necessary for the Inspector
to make inquiry. They would hear what occurred from the evidence. To
assist the Bench he would like to read a circular letter sent out by
him, as follows: Shops Act, 1912. I enclose copy of an Order which has
been made extending the provisions of Section 4 of the Shops Act, 1912,
to certain shops. This Order is now in force, and must be complied with
by the occupiers of the classes of shops therein referred to. With
respect to the sale of tobacco, etc., at places licensed for the sale of
intoxicating liquors and other refreshment places, the Home Secretary
has made the following statement, and it is the intention of the Town
Council to act in accordance with such statement.
Copy statement: “I am to add, for the Council's information, that the
Secretary of State is advised that licensed houses in which a retail
trade in tobacco is regularly carried on are subject to the provisions
of the Order, but that the Order would not apply to the occasional sale
of tobacco in hotels and inns in connection with meals, e.g. the supply
of customers with cigars and cigarettes after dinner.” A copy of that
letter was sent to the defendant.
Mr. Kidson then gave evidence of the appointment of Mr. J. Pearson, the
Sanitory Inspector, as Inspector under the Shops Act, 1912, for the
purpose of enforcing the provisions of the Act.
Harold Summerfield, assistant to the Sanitory Inspector, said he visited
the Royal Standard public house at 6.37 on the 18th February, which was
a Wednesday, and the half holiday. He entered the bottle and jug
department, and asked the assistant behind the bar for an ounce of shag
tobacco. The man replied “It is Wednesday afternoon. I cannot serve
you”. He (witness) replied “Thank you”, and walked towards the door. The
man then called him back again, and said he would oblige him that time,
and that he must not tell anyone, or he would get him into trouble. The
man served him with an ounce of shag tobacco, and he (witness) paid 4d.
for it. He did not see any notice whatever in the bar with reference to
the Shops Act.
Cross-examined by Mr. Holme, witness said the Royal Standard was an
ordinary public house. He did not think they pushed the sale of tobacco
more than any ordinary public house did. There was no separate counter
for the sale of tobacco, So far as he knew it was a casual sale of
tobacco carried on at the house.
Mr. Holme, at this stage, asked for the register which had to be kept
under the Shops Act, and when it was produced, he requested him to say
whether the Royal Standard was to be found in the register.
Mr. Kidson said he admitted the Royal Standard was not entered in it. He
believed there were a few public houses mentioned in it, but only some
of the large ones.
Mr. Holme asked the witness if he knew whether the notice calling upon
the defendant to say which was his principal trade had been served upon
him.
Mr. Kidson argued that that was not a proper question to put. The point
was, it seemed to him, had that Order and the Act authorising the Order
been contravened?
Mr. Holme agreed to leave the matter until later. He then addressed the
Magistrates on behalf of the defence, and in the course of his remarks
he said that was a very important case. The matter was fairly simple.
They had before them the words of the Act and the Order, which they had
to construe. There were two possible ways of construing the words.
Conceivably, they might say they meant they forbade in the district at
the time in question the sale of tobacco without any exception whatever.
If they were construed in that way, it would have a far reaching effect,
not only on the public houses, but all the fine hotels in the district,
including the Grand, the Pavilion, and the Metropole. They would not be
able to call for a cigar or cigarette after dinner in that case. If the
Order was really carried out, they would not be able to have any game or
vegetable for dinner at the Metropole or any other hotel. That would be
absurd, and the prosecution would agree that would be absurd. The
circular of the Home Secretary was, he contended, an admission that some
exception was to be allowed to that general rule. By that circular a
breach was made in the walls of the Act. They could not apply those
words without some exception. The only exception the Home Secretary had
allowed was if a cigar or cigarette was sold in connection with a meal.
Not once in the regulations was the word “meal” used, and, therefore,
that was a pure invention of the Home Secretary. It would be a difficult
problem to say what a meal was. He suggested that the word “meal” could
not be read into the Act. He agreed the circular was founded on common
sense. They had to look deeper than that for a principle.
At this stage Mr. Holmes read several answers to questions put to the
Home Secretary in the House of Commons, and arguing on those answers he
said the Magistrates really had to consider in that case whether that
was a casual sale or was a regular trade or business carried on at the
Royal Standard. The true principle they had to apply was whether that
sale was casual and ancillary to what was going on in the establishment,
or was it a sale in connection with the trade that was going on in the
house. The Royal Standard had not developed into a miniature shop for
the sale of tobacco. He was going to prove by the defendant that he had
never sold any tobacco or cigarettes to a person except that it was a
casual sale, and, therefore, it did not come within the words of the
Act. It was an abuse of language to call the Royal Standard a shop for
the sale of tobacco. That was his submission on the main point.
Mr. Kidson had mentioned Section 4 of the Act, which provided for the
half holiday closing. Then Section 6 exempted licensed victuallers
unless they were brought in by a special Order. Before an exempted trade
could be included, certain formalities had to be gone through. By a
sub-section and the regulations there had to be a two thirds majority of
the shops before the trade could be brought in. A register was also to
be prepared.
Mr. Kidson said it was not the Magistrates' duty to go into anything
prior to the making of the Order.
Mr. Holme said he was not going to say the order was bad, but he wanted
to try to find out whether the prosecution meant to bring in his client.
Did the Order include his client? If he could show that the prosecution,
when they made the Order, had no intention of brining in his client,
surely that was relevant to the matter.
A good deal of argument ensued on this point, and Mr. Holmes said he
could not imagine anything more unfair than that an Order should be made
without consulting all the people whom it could affect.
The Magistrates' Clerk eventually said that Mr. Holme might raise the
point should the question of inflicting a penalty arise.
Mr. Holme said he admitted for the sake of argument the Order was good,
nevertheless he did ask the Bench to take into consideration the
circumstances under which it was made. Proceeding, he said no voting
paper was sent to his client. He admitted that a notice was published
asking tradesmen to go to the Town Clerk's office to see if they were on
the register. He wished to point out there was a provision in the Act by
which they might have got out of that dilemma. It was that sub-section
which dealt with the case of a mixed trade. He submitted, however, that
that was not a mixed trade, but that a publican's business was one
trade, catering for the public. In the case of a mixed trade the Council
had to inquire from the occupier which he considered to be his principal
trade.
Defendant, giving evidence, said he had not a separate counter for the
sale of tobacco, and he made no special effort to push tobacco. If
tobacco was sold to the Inspector in that case, it was the one solitary
exception that he had sold tobacco to a man who had not purchased
something else. His tobacco trade was about 5 percent of his trade. He
had had no notice served on him requiring him to say what he considered
to be his principal trade, and no voting paper was sent to him.
The Magistrates' Clerk held Mr. Holme was not entitled to put questions
on that point.
Mr. Summerfield said he did not sign any application for the Order to be
made.
Cross-examined, he said he would not call his tobacco trade his
principal trade.
Mr. Kidson: Therefore you would not be entitled to have your name
entered on the register.
Mr. A. Hart gave evidence as to going to the Town Clerk's office and
examining the register. He could not find the name of the Royal Standard
entered in it, nor any other licensed house.
The case of Charles Henry Barker, the licensee of the Raglan, was next
dealt with. Mr. Rutley Mowll defended, and pleaded Not Guilty.
Mr. Kidson put in the Order made by the Home Secretary, and produced the
appointment of the Inspector of Nuisances as the Inspector. In reply to
Mr. Mowll, he said Mr. Barker's name was not entered in the register.
The Council did not ascertain by vote whether the defendant or other
licensed victuallers wished to come under the Act. The petition asking
for the Order was received from the tobacconists.
Harry Summerfield said he visited the defendant's premises at 6.30 p.m.
on Wednesday, February 18th, and asked for a 2d. cigar. He was served
with it, and paid 2d. for it.
Cross-examined, witness said he did not ask for any refreshment at the
same time.
Mr. Mowll addressed the Magistrates at length on the matter. He urged
that his client had committed no offence, as it was an occasional,
casual sale. He pointed out also that bread and cheese, or even a
biscuit, would be regarded as a meal, and he held that a man would be
able to purchase a cigar or cigarette. According to the Home Secretary,
that was a casual and occasional sale, and not within the meaning of the
Act. It would be very hard indeed to apply the Order to such a case as
that. In his opinion it was a condition precedent to the making of that
Order that the Town Council should first have been satisfied that the
occupiers of at least two thirds of the shops of that class should
approve of the Order. If his client was one of that class to be
prosecuted, then he was also one of the class who had the right to vote
for the Order. In other words, the Corporation could not fasten them
with the responsibility and at the same time deny to them the privileges
of the section. He contended that there was no provision in the Act
which said that the Order for the weekly half holiday should have the
operation of the Act of Parliament. It was only by closing order that
might have the effect of an Act; the weekly half holiday Order did not
have that effect, for they had to be made, and could be revoked. In
conclusion, he suggested that instead of coming to a decision that day,
they should postpone that matter for a short time, and give the licensed
victuallers the opportunity of approaching the Corporation and putting
before them their views, and requesting that they might be pleased to
revoke the Order. He thought the Council would agree to the revocation
of the Order, for it would be saving the trouble of deciding a point of
law. They must not forget that a conviction was a serious objection to a
licensee. It seemed to him the best course would be to let the licensed
victuallers approach the Corporation.
Mr. Kidson said if there was an adjournment there ought to be an
undertaking given that there would be no sales in the meantime. There
was no desire on the part of the Council to be unfair with the licensed
victuallers. If the latter did approach them, he was certain they would
consider the matter.
Mr. Holme said for his client he would prefer to have a definite
decision.
The Bench retired, and on their return the Chairman said the Bench were
unanimously satisfied that the case had been proved, but inasmuch as the
parties had suggested a re-consideration by the Council of the position
of licensed victuallers under the Act, they refrained from imposing a
penalty, and they dismissed the cases against Mr. Summerfield and Mr.
Barker, on payment of the costs, 8/6.
Mr. Holme asked the Clerk if he would state a case.
The Clerk said there was no conviction.
Mr. Holme said that was very unfortunate. Nothing could be more
inconvenient for his client, for they were no nearer getting an
authoritative decision from the High Court.
The Clerk said if there had been a conviction he would not have stated a
case. He would have left it to the defendants to apply for a mandamus.
Summonses against Mr. E.W. James, another licensed victualler, and Mrs.
Julia Wilson, a shopkeeper, were withdrawn.
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Folkestone Herald 7 March 1914.
Local News.
The question of the right of publicans to sell tobacco on Wednesday
afternoon (early closing day), was discussed at the Folkestone Police
Court on Tuesday, four licence holders having been summoned for a breach
of the Shops Act by selling tobacco on the 18th February after 1 p.m.
The Magistrates were Colonel R.J. Fynmore, Mr. G. Boyd and J.J. Giles,
and Colonel G.P. Owen.
The case against John Wm. Summerfield, of the Royal Standard, for
selling tobacco at 6.30 p.m. on the 18th February was first heard. The
Town Clerk (Mr. A.F. Kidson) prosecuted, and Mr. Randle F. Holme
appeared for the defendant.
The Town Clerk said this was the first summons that had come before them
under that particular Act, and he thought perhaps he should refer them
to the various sections bearing upon the question. Mr. Kidson then went
into many details concerning various sections of the Act. He mentioned
that tobacconists were under one section exempt from the Act, but added
that another section provided for this particular matter, and the local
authority had power, if satisfied that they had at least two thirds
majority of tobacconists to include them. The Council did make an Order
under that provision with regard to tobacconists, which was confirmed by
the Home Secretary. The Order provided “That the provisions of Section 4
of the Act, with respect to the closing of shops for the serving of
customers in the afternoon of one weekday in every week, are hereby
extended to the undermentioned shops in the urban district of
Folkestone, to all shops except those in the Morehall district, and in
High Street, Sandgate, wherein is carried on the trade or business of
the sale of tobacco or smokers' requisites”. That Order was confirmed by
the Home Secretary. In referring to many legal points in the case, Mr.
Kidson alluded to Section 6, sub-section 3, which provided “As soon as
the Secretary of State has confirmed any Order, the Order will become
final and have the effect of an Act of Parliament”. A complaint was
received that licensed victuallers were infringing this Order. Therefore
it became necessary to make inquiry. Inquiry was made, and the facts in
this case were very simple, and he presumed could not be disputed. He
thought it was hardly necessary to draw their attention to the fact that
the Order provided that the day of the half holiday should be Wednesday
for all the shops. They knew that this was a new Act of Parliament, and
the Order was newer still. The Magistrates might like to know what steps
had been taken to make known Orders and Acts of Parliament of the kind.
If it would be of any assistance, he would explain what had been done.
The Chairman expressed the wish of the Bench to hear the particulars.
The Town Clerk then produced a circular (which, he said, was sent out to
the defendant amongst others), in which he stated that he enclosed a
copy of the Order which had been made extending the provisions of
section 4 of the Shops Act, 1912, to certain shops, including
tobacconists. Next Mr. Kidson touched upon a statement made by Mr.
McKenna, in which he said he was to add, for the Council's information,
that the Secretary of State was advised that licensed houses in which
the retail trade of tobacco was regularly carried on, were subject to
the provisions of the Order, but did not apply to the casual sale of
tobacco at hotels and inns in connection with meals and the supply of
customers with cigars and cigarettes after dinner.
Mr. Holme pointed out that the opinion of the Home Secretary was not
binding on the Bench.
The Town Clerk said it was an intimation of the view he would like the
authorities to take.
Mr. Holme: It is an admission by the prosecution.
Continuing, Mr. Kidson said that Mr. Pearson was appointed the Inspector
under the Act for the purpose of enforcing the provisions of the Act.
Harold Summerfield, an assistant in the Sanitary Inspector's office,
stated that he visited the Royal Standard, Canterbury Road, on the 18th
February, a Wednesday, at 6.37 p.m. He entered the premises by the door
at the bottom of Bridge Street, and asked the assistant for an ounce of
shag tobacco. There was a small pigeon hole where customers were served.
The assistant refused to serve him at first, saying it was Wednesday
afternoon. Witness said “Thank you”, and walked towards the door. The
assistant then called him back, and this time served him, saying “I will
oblige you this time,, but you must not tell anyone, or we shall get
into trouble”. The assistant then served him, and witness paid him 4d.
Witness saw no notice in reference to the Shops Act.
Mr. Holme said there was no dispute as to the facts. However, the case
was not an important case. Mr. Kidson said it was the first case in the
Borough; he (Mr. Holme) believed it was the first case anywhere.
Cross-examined by Mr. Holme, witness stated that the Royal Standard was
an ordinary public house, and he did not know that it made any special
effort to push the sale of tobacco any more than other public houses.
Mr. Holme pointed out that in hotels there were cabinets and counters
for the sale of tobacco, and, turning to witness, asked “There was
nothing of the kind here. Was there, in fact, any tobacco on the bars?”
Witness: I saw none.
Was anyone else buying tobacco when you were there? – Not in that
department.
Did you see anyone else buy tobacco? – No.
Had you been in the house before? – No.
As far as your knowledge goes, it was the only case of an ounce of
tobacco being sold? – Yes.
So far as you know, it was merely a casual sale? – Yes.
Mr. Holme pointed out that, under the Act, a register was to be kept,
and in the register there were set out the different classes of shops
affected. He asked witness to find the Royal Standard in the register.
Mr. Kidson said the Royal Standard was not in the register.
Mr. Holme asked if any public house was in the register.
Mr. Kidson: There are a few; some of the large ones.
Mr. Holme remarked that for some perfectly unexplained reason the Royal
Standard was not in. No doubt there was a very good reason. Continuing,
he asked witness if he could tell him if there was a provision under the
Act by which a local authority might serve a notice on any shop occupier
requiring him to say which he considered his principal trade, and could
the witness tell him if that notice was served on the occupier of the
Royal Standard?
Mr. Kidson submitted that it was not a proper question. It did not
matter what notice was served. That was not the question for their
consideration at all. The point was whether the Order was contravened.
Mr. Holme said the matter to be considered was fairly simple. They had
the words of the Act and the Order, which they had to construe. It might
fairly be said that the question was “That in the district and at the
time in question no shop might be kept open for the sale of tobacco”.
Those were the words they had to construe. There were two possible ways
of construing those words. They might say that in the district and at
the time in question it forbade the sale of tobacco without any
exception whatsoever. That was one way of construing them, but he
pointed out how ver far-reaching would be their decision if that course
was adopted. It would affect all public houses and all hotels in the
district. It would include the Metropole and the Grand. They would not
be able to call for a cigar or cigarette, not even after dinner. And it
went even further than that. Mr. Kidson did not read the Order with
regard to prohibiting shops being open for the sale of poultry, game, of
perishable articles, fruit, vegetables and flowers. Under the Act it
enabled him to include confectionery. If the Order applied at the
Metropole, they would be able to sell no game; they would have no game
at dinner on Wednesday afternoons, no vegetables, no fruit, no dessert.
If they construed the words strictly, that was the result, and it would
be absurd. He need not remind them that they had to construe the Act,
and not the Home Secretary's circular. The circular was to the effect
that some exception had to be made, and once they got inside and allowed
an exception this case came within the exception and not within the
rule. He (Mr. Holme) knew the Act from beginning to end, and not in one
place did the word “meal” occur. It was a pure invention of the Home
Secretary. What was a meal? There was not only the difficulty of the
definition of the word “meal”, but there was also the question of how
long after could a man be served. Some people smoked immediately, some
hours afterwards. He agreed that the circular was founded on common
sense, but he argued that Mr. McKenna meant that “a meal” was to be
simply alluded to as an example, as a sort of exception, and they had to
look deeper for the principle. He read Mr. McKenna's answer in the House
of Commons, in which Mr. McKenna said he did not think the casual sales
of cigars or cigarettes in hotels and restaurants for consumption on the
premises, as for example, after dinner, or other meal, would amount to
the carrying on of a retail trade so as to prevent such sales on the day
of the half-holiday. Therefore he argued they had to consider, was it a
casual and ancillary sale, or was it really the sale of tobacco or a
regular trade going on in the same house? He quoted an extract from a
paper called “Tobacco”, in which it was stated “Licensed victuallers are
developing into miniature tobacco shops”. Had the Royal Standard
developed into that? There was no counter, no separate place where
cigars or tobacco were exposed for sale. Mr. Holme next referred to the
steps necessary to be taken in the case of those wishing to be brought
under the Order. A voting paper was to be sent out to each one, and a
register of all the different shops affected was started. When one found
that the Royal Standard was not in the register one wondered why they
were brought to the Court.
Mr. Kidson asked the decision of the Magistrates as to the power to go
into anything prior to the making of the Order. He suggested it was not
within their power to do so.
After a considerable amount of legal argument Mr. Holme said he imagined
nothing was more unfair than that the Order should have been made
without the licensed victuallers being consulted. The licensed
victuallers were not consulted, and he maintained that they were not in
the Order at all. The scheme of the Act said that before they made an
Order they must consult them in one of two ways. After describing the
mode of procedure, he said no licensed victualler, so far as he knew,
had received a voting paper. And why? Because he was not on the
register. The alternative plan was to have an application signed by two
thirds of the people affected. In this case no application was signed by
the licensed victuallers, and certainly not by the Royal Standard. Mr.
Holme pointed out a section dealing with mixed trades, but held that in
this case it was not a mixed trade. It was in the power of the local
authority to serve a notice on a man asking him which was his principal
trade. Could anyone call an ordinary public house a shop for the sale of
tobacco? It might as well be argued that if he went into a public house
for a box of matches to light a lamp that it was a shop for the sale of
matches.
Mr. Summerfield, the defendant, stated that he was the licensee of the
Royal Standard. There was no separate counter for tobacco. He made no
special effort to push the sale of tobacco. The sale to the witness of
the prosecution was a solitary exception. He had sold tobacco to men who
had been having something else at the same time. It was a casual sale.
The proportion that tobacco bore to the rest of his trade was about 5
percent. No notice was served upon him as to what he considered to be
his principal trade. A paper was not sent to him asking whether he
wished the Order to be put into force.
The Magistrates' Clerk said Mr. Holme was not entitled to put these
questions.
Mr. Holme argued that if the case was going to the High Court they were
material facts that the High Court should know.
Mr. Summerfield, continuing, said no notice or voting paper was served
on him, and he did not send in any application for the Order to be made.
He did not approve of the Order. He did not think any licensed
victualler had sent in an application, and they did not approve of it.
In answer to the Town Clerk, Mr. Summerfield said he considered 5
percent of his trade a very small, and not a substantial part, of his
trade.
Mr. Kidson: Therefore you would not have been entitled to vote.
Mr. Holme: That is a question of law.
Mr. Kidson argued that no injustice had been suffered by the licensed
holders, because they were not entitled to vote, even if they had
received notices.
Mr. Holme put another construction upon the case, to the effect that the
whole sub-section depended on the notice being served first. He did not
think Mr. Kidson had any application where any such notice was served.
Mr. Kidson said his point was that Mr. Summerfield had suffered no
injustice, though he had not served him with the notice referred to
under the sub-section. He quite agreed that the notice must be served,
and Mr. Holme objected that it was not served, but even if the notice
had been served Mr. Summerfield would not have been entitled to a vote.
Mr. Holme characterised the method as very extraordinary, and contended
that the Corporation were absolutely outside their powers. They were
bound to give these people a vote before they made the Order.
Mr. A.J. Hart, of the Bouverie Arms, said he had inspected the register
and he did not fine the Royal Standard there, nor any other licensed
victualler; There were no licensed victuallers in it at all.
Tobacconists were in the register.
The Magistrates' Clerk: Was there any hotel proprietor?
Mr. Hart: I did not notice any.
Mr. Holme said that in hotels they had real counters, where they carried
on the sale of tobacco, but in an ordinary public house they had nothing
of the kind. It was for the Magistrates to say whether the Royal
Standard was selling tobacco as a trade in itself, or whether the trade
was merely casual or ancillary. The answer was obvious. There was no
special trade. They were casual sales, and not a trade under the
circumstances. If they did hold that licensed victuallers were within
the scope of the Act, then the local authorities were in a tight dilemma
in making the Order without consulting them.
Mr. Kidson submitted that Mr. Holme was wrong in his contentions.
However, if he (Mr. Kidson) was wrong, the sooner it was put right the
better for everyone concerned. It was almost impossible to get everyone
within a class of trade who was entitled to vote to do so, but they did
their best. They advertised according to the Act of Parliament, and they
called attention to the Act that if anyone whose name was not in the
register thought he should be on, he could find out by coming to the
office, by making proper application for the same, and if in the opinion
of the local authority he was entitled his name would be put on the
register. They advertised in the local papers, and were only too wishful
to get everyone on the register who felt he was entitled to be on. There
was no intention to keep anyone off.
Mr. Holme suggested that another case should be heard before his case
was decided, and this case was adopted.
Charles Henry Barker was summoned for a similar offence on the same day.
Mr. Rutley Mowll, who appeared for the defence, asked Mr. Kidson various
questions, which were replied to under protest.
The Town Clerk said Mr. Mowll's client was not on the register, and he
did not ascertain by vote whether his client and other licensed
victuallers wished to come under the Act. They were not included when
ascertaining whether they got a majority of the shopkeepers of the class
for the purpose of the Order.
Mr. Mowll: So they were entirely excluded.
Mr. Kidson pointed out that a bill was published in prominent parts of
the town inviting those interested to see that their names were on the
register.
Mr. Mowll asked whether the licensed victuallers were taken into
consideration in arriving at whether they had a two thirds majority in
favour of applying section 4 to the tobacconists' trade.
Mr. Kidson: No, because they were not on the register, and did not apply
to be put on the register.
Mr. Summerfield, assistant in the Sanitary Inspector's office, stated
that on the 18th February, at 6.30 p.m., he went into the public bar of
the Raglan Hotel. He asked Mr. Barker for a twopenny cigar, and he was
served with it. He saw no notice with regard to the Shops Act in the
bar.
Mr. Mowll asked witness if he treated himself to a little refreshment at
the same time.
Mr. Summerfield replied that he had nothing to drink. There were other
customers there. He did not hear anyone else ask for a cigar while he
was there. There were two others in the bar at the time. He simply went
in, bought his cigar, and walked out.
Mr. Mowll: How did you like your cigar? – I have not tried one.
(Laughter)
Mr. Mowll said he did not know whether it was necessary whether it was
necessary to call evidence with regard to the lad having a drink, but he
did not dispute the sale of the cigar. He proceeded to ask the Bench to
note how the matter worked out according to the Home Secretary's dictum,
which, of course, was not a law. The Home Secretary agreed that a person
going to the Metropole Hotel and having lunch was entitled to have a
cigar. Strictly speaking, if the Order was properly enforced, he was not
entitled to have it at all, but it was a casual sale, and therefore the
Home Secretary said “It was a casual sale of a cigar”. If it was casual,
why not in this case? This young man came into the bar and had a drink.
Should not that sale be just as casual as the sale of a cigar in the
Metropole, and therefore outside the Act? He saw no reason why one was
outside the Act and the other within. A person who drove up to the
Metropole and had his cigar after lunch committed no offence. The poor
were just as much entitled to a cigar as the rich. The real difficulty
arose because of the rather peculiar operation of those Orders. It was a
casual sale, and he argued that a meal was not necessary to make it
casual. If it was, look how absurd it would be? One man had a five
course meal, one had a one course meal of biscuit and cheese, and
perhaps another would not like the cheese, and would have a biscuit, or
a glass of his clients' famous stout (laughter), or Wincarnis, or
anything else. It would be hard indeed to apply such an Order to such a
case as this. He said it was a condition precedent to the making of this
Order that the Town Council should first be satisfied that the occupiers
of two thirds of the shops of the class approved of the Order. They
excluded the licensed victuallers in arriving at a decision. His point
was this; that they could not have it both ways. If they were one of the
classes to be prosecuted, then they were one of the classes who had the
right to vote. The Corporation could not fasten them with the
responsibility and at the same time deny them the privileges of the
section. The Town Council, obviously motivated by the best motives –
no-one questioned that – had not, in fact, taken reasonable steps to be
satisfied that they had a two thirds majority, or if they had done so,
then obviously they never intended to include public houses, because
they had not been given an opportunity of having voted. If they included
licensed victuallers, they had not a two thirds majority of the trade.
They had been entirely ignored. They could not ignore people whom they
held were responsible under the Act. Either they were responsible under
the Act, or they were not responsible, in which case they were excluded
and had no vote. In conclusion, he pointed out that the licensed
victuallers were conducting a trade in which they were bound to keep
open; they were under an obligation to the brewers to do so, and there
was certainly no attempt on the part of the Corporation as a local
authority to stop the sale of intoxicating liquors on the weekly
half-holiday. It was almost impossible, if they worked it out, to say
that a man was to sell behind the counter beer and whisky, lemonade and
ginger beer, and could not sell at the same time a cigarette, or, as in
his case, a cigar. His (Mr. Mowll's) suggestion was this, and he did it
on his own responsibility. That was a new Act. He could not help
thinking that the local authority, when they made this Order, were under
a misapprehension. Either they did not appreciate what the Order really
was going to mean, or did not realise that licensed victuallers should
be on the register and given an opportunity to vote. His suggestion was
that instead of coming to a decision that day in deciding to convict or
otherwise, they should postpone the matter for a short time, say three
months, and give the licensed victuallers an opportunity of approaching
the Corporation and requesting that they might be pleased to revoke the
Order which they had made. He alluded to the powers to revoke the Order,
and said he thought that if the matter was put before the Corporation in
the light he had suggested they would agree to revoke the Order, and so
they would be saved the necessity of coming to a decision on rather a
difficult point of law. Then there remained the question of whether they
convicted or not. A conviction was always an objection to a licensed
victualler, and he maintained that it would be the best course to let
the licensed victuallers approach the Corporation to say whether this
Order, which was really rather absurd, could not be revoked, and thereby
put an end to the whole thing.
Mr. Kidson, in reply, said that even had the licensed victuallers had
notices sent, they would not have been entitled to vote. Continuing, he
said that if the matter was sent to the Council he raised no objection.
He would only say this, that if an adjournment were made, there should
be no sales in the meantime. There was no desire on the part of the
Corporation to be unfair to the licensed victuallers.
Mr. Holme said he would prefer that they should have a decision that
day.
After the Magistrates had returned from a lengthy consideration of the
matter, Col. Fynmore said the Bench were unanimously satisfied that the
case was proved, but inasmuch as the parties suggested a reconsideration
by the Council of the position of the licensed victuallers under the
Act, they refrained from imposing a penalty, and dismissed both cases on
payment of the costs (8s. 6d. in each case).
Mr. Holme said he begged to state a special case.
The Magistrates' Clerk pointed out that there was no conviction.
Mr. Holme expressed the opinion that it was very inconvenient. They
would be no nearer getting an authoritative decision from the High
Court.
The summonses against Mrs. Julia Willson and Mr. Edward Wm. James were
withdrawn.
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Folkestone Herald 6 May 1933.
Obituary.
The death of Mr. H.G. Twigg, of the Raglan Hotel, Dover Road, at his
residence on Friday evening of last week, was learnt with deep regret by
members of the licensed trade.
“Bert” Twigg, as he was familiarly known, was 61 years of age, and had
held a licence during the past 13 years. He had been in ill-health for
the past two years, and had undergone several operations at the Royal
Victoria Hospital. At one time he appeared to have recovered, but after
a relapse he did not regain good health.
He was of an exceedingly jovial disposition, and was a striking figure.
He served with the Middlesex Regiment (Territorial Army) for a number of
years, reaching the rank of Sergeant Major, and being awarded the Long
Service decoration. In the trade he was an energetic worker, and a
popular member of the Folkestone and District Licensed Victuallers'
Association. He was a member of the committee for a number of years, and
at one time was Chairman of the Association.
The deepest sympathy is extended to the widow and son in their sad
bereavement.
The funeral took place at Canterbury on Monday.
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Folkestone Express 27 May 1933.
Local News.
At a special licensing sessions on Wednesday at the Folkestone Police
Court, a protection order in respect to the Raglan Tavern was granted to
Mrs. Twigg, the licence being previously held by her late husband.
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Folkestone Herald 27 May 1933.
Local News.
At a sitting of the Folkestone Magistrates on Wednesday a protection
order was granted to Mrs. H.G. Twigg in respect of the Raglan Tavern,
Dover Road, the licensee of which, Mr. H.G. Twigg, died recently.
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Folkestone Express 15 July 1933.
Local News.
On Wednesday, at a transfer sessions at the Folkestone Police Court, the
licence of the Raglan Hotel, Dover Road, was transferred to Mrs. Twigg,
her late husband having previously held it.
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Folkestone Express 5 May 1934.
Local News.
Mr. Richard Stanley was granted a protection order in respect of the
transfer of the Raglan Hotel to him from Mrs. Twigg, the present
licensee, at the Folkestone Police Court on Tuesday. Mr. Stanley was
formerly licensee of the Fox Inn, Basingstoke.
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Folkestone Herald 26 May 1934.
Local News.
The licences of the Raglan Hotel and Jubilee Inn were on Wednesday
transferred to Mr. Richard Stanley and Mr. Harold Clement Chawner
respectively. The licence of the Raglan was formerly held by Mrs. Jane
Rosetta Twigg, and the licence of the Jubilee was transferred from Mr.
Edward Charles Stanley Rogers.
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Folkestone Express 22 May 1937.
Local News.
The Folkestone Magistrates on Tuesday granted a protection order in
respect of the transfer of the licence of the Raglan Tavern from the
present licensee, Mr. Richard Stanley, to Mr. Lewis Arthur Stanley Hall,
of 16, Wanborough Road, Oxford.
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Folkestone Express 29 May 1937.
Local News.
The Folkestone Transfer Sessions were held at the Police Court, on
Wednesday, when Mr. R.G. Wood, Dr. W.W. Nuttall, Alderman Mrs. E. Gore,
Eng. Rear Admiral L.J. Stephens, Mr. R.J. Stokes and Alderman G.A. Gurr
were the Justices on the Bench.
The licences of the Martello Hotel and the Raglan Hotel were transferred
to Mr. Chapman and Mr. L. A. Stanley respectively, to whom protection
orders were granted recently.
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Folkestone Herald 29 May 1937.
Local News.
At the Folkestone Police Court on Wednesday, the licence of Martello
Hotel, Dover Road, was transferred from Mr. A.W. Bridges to Mr. R.L.
Chapman, of Wye (Kent), a Protection Order having been granted last
week. A similar application was made and granted in respect of the
Raglan Tavern, the licence being transferred to Mr. L.A.S. Hall, of
Oxford, from Mr. Stanley.
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Folkestone Express 27 August 1938.
Local News.
The Folkestone magistrates on Tuesday granted a protection order in
respect of the transfer of the licence of the Raglan Hotel in Dover Road
from Mr. Hall, the present licensee, to Mr. H. J. Wraite, a former
manager of the White Lion Hotel, Cheriton.
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Folkestone Herald 17 October 1942.
Local News.
Folkestone Magistrates on Tuesday granted a protection order to Frank
Frederick Lester, of Faversham, in respect of the Raglan Hotel, Dover
Road, the licence of which has been held by Mr. W. Martin, representing
the brewers.
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Folkestone Herald 25 August 1945.
Local News.
Charged with the theft of a handbag alleged to have been stolen from a
Folkestone public house, Emily Maud Munton, of Browning Place,
Folkestone, was remanded by the Folkestone Magistrates on Monday.
Munton, who appeared before the Magistrates in a dazed condition and was
stated to be subject to epileptic fits, was charged with stealing a
handbag and its contents, including a leather wallet containing £9 and
personal papers, the property of Mrs. C.E. Lesser.
Mrs. Charlotte E. Lesser, wife of the licensee of the Raglan Hotel, said
on Friday she placed her handbag in a club room adjoining the saloon
bar. The bag was partially covered with a hat. The bag was there at 9.05
p.m., but it had gone at 10.30 p.m. Defendant had come into the public
bar with a soldier just before 9 o'clock, and later Munton went to the
saloon bar. When she saw defendant again she had taken off her coat and
was carrying it over her arm. Defendant left shortly after with a
soldier. In the wallet, as well as £9, were her identity card, a pair of
spectacles and a bank book. Defendant had no reason to go to the club
room.
D.C. Bremer said at 3.15 p.m. on Saturday he was patrolling Sandgate
Road when he saw Munton. He stopped her and told her that he was making
enquiries respecting a handbag containing £9 in money which had been
stolen from the Raglan Hotel. He cautioned Munton, who said “Yes, I had
the bag, took the money out and hid it in a lavatory in Dover Road”. He
told defendant that she would be detained. On arrival at the police
station he found Munton was in possession of three £1 notes, 6/4 loose
change, a black leather wallet and an identity card in the name of
Charlotte E. Lesser. He cautioned Munton, who said “They came from the
bag; that’s the only money left”. Defendant later informed witness that
the blue frock she was wearing she had purchased that day out of the
money she had stolen from the bag. Witness said he later recovered the
handbag and contents from a public lavatory in Dover Road.
The acting Woman Probation Officer told the Court that Munton had been
placed on probation for two years on May 22nd at Hythe for larceny.
Munton was known to be an epileptic and under medical care.
The Magistrates remanded Munton until yesterday.
Alderman J.W. Stainer presided, with Mr. P.V. Gurr and Mr. C.A. Wilde.
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Folkestone Herald 1 September 1945.
Local News.
A young Folkestone woman who appeared on remand before the Folkestone
Magistrates last Friday on a charge of stealing a handbag and its
contents was sent to prison for four months. Defendant was Emily Maude
Munton, of Browning Place; she had appeared before the court on the
previous Monday charged with the theft of a handbag and its contents,
including £9, the property of Mrs. C.A. Lesser, of the Raglan Hotel,
Folkestone.
At the adjourned hearing, before Alderman J.W. Stainer, Mr. P.V. Gurr
and Mr. C.A. Wilde, Munton pleaded Guilty.
There was a further charge of on August 18th, with intent to defraud,
obtaining from the Postmaster General £3 by means of a forged Post
Office Savings receipt. Munton also admitted this charge.
Miss Elsie Bennett, postal clerk at Cheriton Avenue sub-post office,
said on August 18th Munton came to the Post Office and asked for a
withdrawal form. Defendant filled the form in for the withdrawal of £3.
Munton produced an identity card in the name of Charlotte A. Lesser and
was paid £3.
D. Const. Bremer said in defendant's possession was a Post Office
savings book and an identity card in the name of Mrs. Lesser. Witness
found £3 had been withdrawn from the savings bank book, and Munton said
“I drew it this morning”.
Munton also admitted stealing on March 9th a clothing supply cheque
valued at £3 14/11½ and on the same day obtaining from Henry Playfair
Ltd. a pair of shoes with the cheque.
There were further charges of obtaining on June 15th three pairs of silk
stockings from William Reid; of stealing a £1 note at East Grinstead;
also at East Grinstead stealing other amounts.
Chief Insp. W.H. Hollands said on January 20th, 1942, defendant was
before the Court for theft and was bound over for 12 months. On May 22nd
this year, at Hythe, for stealing jewellery, Munton was placed on
probation for two years. The clothing cheque mentioned, added Chief
Insp. Hollands, was found by defendant in March and she obtained shoes
and silk stockings with it. Before the police could take proceedings,
however, defendant was taken ill and admitted to East Grinstead
Hospital, where she stole from five persons who were patients there.
After adjourning the case until the afternoon, the Chairman announced
that defendant would be sent to prison for four months.
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Folkestone Gazette 13 February 1963.
Local News.
Permits under the Betting and Gaming Act for amusements with prizes have
been granted to the Martello Hotel, True Briton, Ship Inn, East Cliff
Tavern, Raglan Hotel, Royal Pavilion Bars, Railway Tavern, and Royal
Standard.
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Folkestone Gazette 6 May 1964.
Local News.
Another pile of pennies for the British Empire Cancer Research Fund.
This one, at the Raglan Hotel, was knocked over by Mrs. E. Fagg on
Friday. Total value of the pennies, collected over a short period, was
£10 12/-. Thanks were expressed to Mr. F. Pepper, the licensee, and Mrs.
Fagg by Mr. Sydney Hancock.
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Folkestone Gazette 31 March 1965.
Local News.
A pile of pennies to be given to the Cancer Research Campaign is pushed
down by Ald. Wilf Harris, Folkestone's Mayor-elect. He is watched by the
licensees of the Raglan Hotel, Folkestone, who collected the money.
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Folkestone Herald 3 April 1965.
Local News.
Alderman Wilf Harris, Folkestone’s Mayor-elect, pushes over a pile of
pennies at the Raglan Hotel, Folkestone. Watching is Mrs. E. Fagg, who
organised the collection in aid of the Cancer Research Campaign, and the
licensee, Mr. W.J.C. Davis. The pile took live months to build and
raised £19 6s. 6d.
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Folkestone Gazette 4 January 1967.
Local News.
Miss W.E. Alden, matron of St. Mary's Hospital, Etchinghill, pushes over
a pile of pennies at the Raglan Hotel, Dover Road, Folkestone.
Mrs. E. Fagg, a regular, has been collecting pennies in the bar since
last Christmas, and the pile was worth £19 3s. 9d. The pennies bought
presents for old people at St. Mary's Hospital who had no-one to visit
them at Christmas.
Mrs. W. Davis, publican's wife, Mrs. Fagg, and men from the bar took
parcels to the hospital on Christmas morning.
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Folkestone Gazette 13 December 1967.
Local News.
Mr William Davis, licensee of the Raglan Hotel, Dover Road, Folkestone,
has won his battle to have the giant road direction sign removed from
outside his hotel, where, he complained, it blocked out light and view.
In his fight Mr. Davis wrote to his local M.P., Mr. Albert Costain, and
to the town council. Now the sign, which replaced a much smaller one,
has been moved to the opposite corner. This week a corporation spokesman
said “We moved the sign when we wre able to find this other suitable
site. It is not the best site from the point of view of the motorist it
is designed to help, but it is one we consider to be reasonably
acceptable”.
In a letter to the Gazette this week Mr. Davis wrote “I would like to
thank you and your staff for the assistance you gave me in my fight
against the department concerned in the erecting of a motorway road sign
which completely obliterated one side of my premises. It is very
gratifying to know that in this near-as-damn-it police state the Press
still has the freedom to publish the views of the man in the street
without prejudice. Once again, I thank you”.
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Folkestone Herald 29 June 1968.
Local News.
When the licensee of a Folkestone public house set out for home after a
darts match he had no worries about being stopped by the police and
asked to take a breath test because he played safe - he and his wife
took a taxi. But when William Davis, licensee of the Raglan Hotel, Dover
Road, arrived home he was locked out. The keys were on the bar counter
of the public house where the darts match had been played.
But Davis did have the keys of a car parked in the driveway to the
Raglan, and it was only a few hundred yards to the home of his barman,
who had a duplicate key to the hotel. The temptation was too great.
At Folkestone Magistrates' Court on Tuesday Davis was fined £40 and
banned from driving for a year after he had pleaded Guilty to driving
with more than the prescribed limit of alcohol in the blood, and
careless driving.
Mr. Glenn Hill, prosecuting, said two police officers in a car in Dover
Road in the early hours of Monday morning decided to follow Davis when
they saw his car swing to the centre of the road and then swing back to
its own side. They saw the car turn again to the centre of the road,
slow to about 15 m.p.h. and then move back to its nearside. The car
turned into Hill Road, where a motorcyclist came up behind it. When the
driver of the car signalled he was turning right the motorcyclist moved
forward slightly to overtake the car on the nearside, but then the car's
signal was cancelled and the vehicle moved back, said Mr. Hill. The same
thing happened again, and when the policemen stopped the car the
driver, Davis, told them “I am looking for my barman”. When they noticed
that his breath smelled of drink they asked him to take an Alcotest,
which proved positive. Davis told the police that he had drunk four or
five whiskies and explained he had been locked out. The result of a
blood test showed 133 milligrams of alcohol in comparison with the
stipulated limit of 80.
Mr. S.J. Moss, defending, told the Court that he was not making excuses
for Davis, who had had 28 years’ service with the Coldstream Guards, 15
as a R.S.M. “He is a strict disciplinarian”, said Mr. Moss. “He came out
of the Service in 1961 with an exemplary character and had one public
house for 18 months before moving to the Raglan”. Mr. Moss said that
Davis returned home in a taxi so there would be no trouble about
breathalysers. When the taxi drove away he found he had left his keys
behind. “So there he was, left out in the early hours of the morning
with the car on the forecourt”, said Mr. Moss. “His barman lives in Hill
Road but he was not sure of the address. As far as Davis was concerned,
he felt fit to drive.” The car swerved when Davis wiped the windscreen
which had steamed up. He signalled his intention to turn because he
thought he had reached the turning he wanted, but then discovered it was
not. He asked that the special circumstances of the case should be taken
into consideration.
The magistrates fined Davis £25 and banned him from driving for a year
for driving with excess alcohol in his blood, and £15 for driving
without due care and attention. His licence was endorsed and he was
ordered to pay four gns. costs.
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Folkestone Herald 7 February 1976.
Local News.
Rumours that Whitbread Fremlins were closing pubs throughout the
Folkestone area because of financial problems were denied this week.
Word got round that pubs were being forced to shut after three local
houses closed, changed hands or were placed on the market within a
matter of weeks.
It is now believed that the Raglan in Folkestone is being offered for
sale as a free house, and that negotiations are in hand to open the
former Fleur-de-Lis at Sandgate as a club. The Star and Garter, also in
Folkestone, is now in temporary use as a social dub. But on Monday,
although no official company statement was available, it was made clear
that Whitbreads have no ulterior motive for these moves. Any recent
closures or changes, it was said, were simply in line with the company’s
normal procedures. “There is nothing particularly dramatic going on”,
said one employee, who refused to be quoted as a company spokesman. “All
brewers are gradually disposing of small houses, particularly those
which are unsuitable for modernisation. This is really just a
continuation of something that we've been doing since the turn of the
century”. He added that the three Whitbread houses in question had all
arrived on the market at the same time as “pure coincidence”. “Tenants
have left or retired for various reasons and this is just a process that
is going on all the time, anyway”, he said.
A spokesman for the Folkestone and District Licensed Victuallers'
Association commented “We haven't been told anything officially, but
what happens to these houses is entirely up to the brewery. I believe it
is what is called rationalisation. If a place is uneconomical, then when
it becomes vacant the brewers are going to sell it. After all, they,
like a licensee, have to make a living”.
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Folkestone Gazette 9 February 1977.
Advertising Feature.
Just a year ago The Raglan was just another pub on the east side of
Folkestone. Walk through the doors and you wouldn't give the place a
second thought. Walking through those same doors today is a revelation.
For in the past nine months it has changed beyond recognition. Extensive
redecoration and new furnishings have made it one of the smartest places
in town.
The change came after the old pub in Dover Road was bought from
Whitbreads last year.
The present licensees, Stuart and Gilly Gresswell, took it over as a
free house in March. At 23, Stuart is one of the youngest publicans in
the area. But he has been in the business for five years, and was
brought up in a pub – his father runs the Bourne Inn at Eastbourne.
Needless to say, he has no illusions about just how tough the job is.
“Making it look easy is the hardest part”, he says with a smile.
The Gresswells are particularly pleased that their revamped pub has been
so readily accepted by regulars in the area. “It was very much a man's
pub before”, says Gilly. “But now we want to make it somewhere for all
the family. Some of the people who come in here to play darts take a
look and say “It’s a bit posh, isn’t it?” But they soon get used to it.
After all, we are giving them saloon bar comfort with public bar prices
and their wives seem to like the place”.
As a free house, the Raglan is also popular with the beer connoisseurs.
At the moment they deal with three breweries, Whitbreads, Charringtons
and Ind Coope. “We are keeping an eye on what people want”, said Stuart.
“And we can always add a few things in the future”.
A grand official opening is planned for the pub at lunchtime on Monday.
With its plush decor, choice of beers and traditional pull pumps for the
real draught bitter buffs, it should be quite an occasion.
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South Kent Gazette 1 June 1983.
Local News.
Bring A Bottle Party candidate Phil Todd is a man on his own. He is
party leader, Parliamentary candidate and campaign manager. Even his
best friends and party supporters who helped him draw up his manifesto
say they would not vote for him. But he is aiming for at least 100 votes
in his vain attempt to become Folkestone and Hythe M.P. in the General
Election.
He will be fighting on the slogan “Our policies reach the voters other
parties cannot reach”. And he launched his manifesto at his unofficial
campaign headquarters, The Raglan, in Dover Road, Folkestone. He has had
almost 3,000 copies of it printed and he will be giving them away at
weekends in the Guildhall Street shopping precinct, roughly halfway
between the East Kent Arms and the Guildhall Hotel. Another 1,000 are
being printed next week to post to potential voters. They are in the
party colours, black and amber, which just happens to be the same as
Folkestone Town football club's. There are 13 points in his manifesto,
but because that is an unlucky number 10 has been left out so there are
only 12 policies.
There is something to appeal to everyone, whatever their political
leanings. His 13 point plan is: Flexibility of pub licensing hours so
that pubs can open in accordance with public demand; Establish
Folkestone as a Free Port to encourage local industry and reduce
unemployment; Introduction of postal vote for electors on holiday; High
jackpot on pub fruit machines; Improved public transport facilities in
rural areas at pub closing times; Automatic entry to Football League for
Folkestone Town Football Club; Pub games to be recognised as Olympic
sports; Raising of the deposit for elections to stop silly candidates
standing; General Election day to be declared a Bank Holiday; Compulsory
walking of dogs to pubs between 8 p.m. and 9 p.m. on weekdays; Guinness
on the National Health; Establishment of a Hangover Research Council.
And if that fails to get him into treble figures there are rumours of
alliance talks for the next election with Screaming Lord Sutch of the
Monster Raving Loony Party, who will be in Folkestone to play at the
Leas Cliff Hall the day after the election.
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Folkestone Herald 11 April 1986.
Local News.
Raglan pub landlords Gilly and Stuart Gresswell celebrate ten years at
the Harbour Way hostelry. But there was no fooling on their April 1
celebration as they were joined by friends, regulars and fellow
licensees for a champagne buffet. “We were just babies ourselves when we
came here and intended to stay just one year”, said Gilly, 29, who is
now proud mum of Tommy, 4, and Ian, 2. She and her husband like
Folkestone so much they might stay on another ten years, she said.
Folkestone and District Ladies Auxiliary, the landlady charity group,
raised well over £100 with a three-legged-race round town centre pubs on
Sunday. Cash raised from their fundraising events will be distributed to
local charities at the Jue annual general meeting, said Gilly.
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Folkestone Herald 29 April 1993.
Local News.
Builder Paul Watkinson had his thick curly hair and bushy beard shaved
to raise £250 for the South East Kent Special Olympics group. Customers
at his local, The Raglan, in Dover Road, Folkestone, were charged 50p
for a snip. Paul, of The Tram Road, Folkestone, said “It feels very
strange without all that hair”.
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Folkestone Herald 28 August 1997.
Canterbury Crown Court.
A pool match at a Folkestone pub between rival teams erupted into
violence after two players clashed, a court heard. It ended with one of
them being punched in the face and suffering a serious eye injury. The
game between the Raglan pub in Folkestone and Portex Social Club from
Hythe was then abandoned.
Canterbury Crown Court heard that the Harvey Division 1 match at the
Dover Road pub on December 23 last year was at 3-0 in the best-of-nine
contest when trouble flared.
Portex player Simon Oakland said there had been a normal jovial pub
atmosphere when he reached an important game. “Balls were going to and
fro, and I got snookered”, he told the jury. “I went to play a shot and
someone shouted out. It put me off and I missed”. Mr. Oakland said
Raglan player Toman Wooding, 21, had been noisy, and he was told to be
quiet by the referee. “He walked to the bar and I called to him “Can you
shut up, you w****r; we're trying to play pool here”, said Mr. Oakland.
“I didn't see him walk round the pool table, but the next thing he was
in front of me and he hit me in the face. I was just stunned. I wasn't
knocked out. My eye started to swell up and felt very munb”. Mr.
Oakland, who said the Social Club now plays in a different league,
suffered a fractured eye-socket and still has numbness to his gums and
the left side of his face. Mr. Oakland said the Social Club's president,
John Wise, called off the match, and the team packed up and left.
Mr. Wise said Wooding inflicted a “vicious blow”, which he thought was
unprovoked.
Referee Phillip Rose said there had been illegal coaching during the
match, and then Mr. Oakland was hit. “There were two blows in fairly
quick succession”, he said. “They were gut-wrenching, hard and
sickening. Simon hadn't acted aggressively”.
Wooding, of Martello Road, Folkestone, denied inflicting grievous bodily
harm, claiming he acted in self-defence when he thought he was going to
be attacked. “He was going to hit me, so I hit him first”, he said. “I
suppose I did lose my rag for a split second. I should not have whacked
him”.
Wooding was convicted of the charge on a 10-2 majority verdict.
Nigel De Bijl, prosecuting, said Wooding had previous convictions for
threatening behaviour and assault causing actual bodily harm.
James Lloyd, defending, asked for a pre-sentencing report, and added
that Wooding had been in a psychiatric hospital some time ago.
Remanding him on bail until September 18 and banning him from pubs in
the meantime,, Judge Jonathan Langdon said although it was a serious
offence, it was at the bottom end of the scale. “There was probably one
blow under considerable provocation – a public insult”, he said.
“Although all options are open, it may be that some sort of disposal in
the community may be possible”. He added “Normally people who are
convicted of this sort of offence face a custodial sentence. All options
remain open”.
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Folkestone Herald 20 November 1997.
Canterbury Crown Court.
A Folkestone man, whose aggressive behaviour was blamed on drug and
alcohol abuse, has been jailed for six months. Toman Patrick Wooding was
told by Judge Jonathan Langdon that he couldn't hide behind a medical
condition which resulted from his long-term abuse and custody was the
only answer.
Wooding, 21, of Martello Road, was at Canterbury Crown Court for
sentence on Tuesday, following his conviction earlier of wounding Simon
Oakland, causing grievous bodily harm. Mr. Oakland suffered a broken
cheekbone after being hit by Wooding following a dispute during a pool
game.
Mr. Oakland was a member of the away team playing Wooding's team at the
Raglan pub on December 23. Things started pleasantly, but as the evening
wore on some barracking and jeering developed. At 9.30 Wooding had
finished playing a game and was still by the pool table when the next
game started, and he began giving tips, which isn't allowed. Mr. Oakland
told him to shut up in an insulting manner. Wooding squared up to him
and invited him outside, but Mr. Oakland refused and Wooding suddenly
punched him in the face, causing the fracture.
At the sentencing hearing, Michael O'Sullivan, for Wooding, said he had
been in hospital for detoxification, which had jolted him. His
stepfather, with whom he lived, was having a steadying influence and if
Wooding kept off non-prescribed drugs the risk of offending was reduced.
Jailing Wooding, Judge Langdon said although there was an element of
provocation, the incident resulted from Wooding's irritating behaviour.
It was his third conviction for violence and his violent outbursts
resulted partly from his long-term abuse of drugs and alcohol. “You
cannot hide behind a medical condition which is partly brought on by
your abuse”, he said.
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From the
https://www.kentonline.co.uk By Alex Jee, 14 February 2023.
Folkestone pub The Raglan in Dover Road sold at auction.
A 159-year-old abandoned pub has sold, with developers potentially
eyeing up the site for flats.
The Raglan in Folkestone has finally been snapped up at auction for
£180,000 after it was put up for sale in 2019.
The former boozer on the corner of Dover Road and Harbour Way is set
over five floors, including a five-bedroom flat above the ground-floor
bar.
Planning permission already granted to turn it into flats, but it has
sat empty and boarded up for about seven years.
The building dates back to 1864, when it was called the Lord Raglan, and
at one point was a hotel called Raglan Hotel.
In 1913, Folkestone police recommended the pub for closure, due to
complaints about a lack of a urinal on the premises.
The toilet facilities were installed in the basement, much to relief of
customers, and the licence was renewed.
The pub closed in 2016, and previously went up for auction in July 2018,
with a freehold guide price of between £190,000 and £210,000.
The following year, it was listed with Christie & Co for a guide price
of £195,000.
Details from the 2019 listing state: "The premises are well positioned
on the busy A260, near several other local businesses and many
residential properties.
"This opportunity would suit someone looking to purchase a large
property, to either restore it to its former glory or look to convert
the building for another purpose subject to planning permission."
Auctioneer Kevin Gilbert from auction house Clive Emson said: "The plans
would see the building converted into four flats including a roof
extension.
“It is a well-situated building close to local shops and the harbour.
Builders and developers were interested in it.” |
LICENSEE LIST
LEPPER Godfrey 1866-69

MORFORD
James 1869-72
PEARSON
George 1872-73
SUTTON
Henry 1873 
SUMMERS William 1873-78
(Also "Brewery Tap")
MARSH William Harrison 1878-79

CHEESEMAN
William 1879-80
HALL James 1880-82 (age 45 in 1881 )
ELLIOTT
Alfred 1882-83
GREGORY
Jane 1883-84
SMITH
Thomas 1884
MULLER
Joseph 1884-85
Charles 1885-93

Cullen
Frederick 1893-95
ROBSON
Sydney 1895-98
KING Henry 1898-1907
  
BARKER Charles Henry 1907-20 (age 47 in 1911 )

TWIGG Herbert G 1920-May/33 dec'd

TWIGG
Rosetta 1933-34
STANLEY
Richard 1934-37
HALL
Lewin 1937-38

WRAIGHT
Harry 1938-41
MARTIN
Wilfred 1941-42 (Holding Manager)
LESSER
Frank 1942-51
HOLBOURE
Cyril 1951-62
PEPPER
Frederick 1962-64
DAVIS
William 1964-69
SKINGLE
Alfred 1969-70
LOADER Leonard 1970-76
LEHMANN
Kenneth & GRESSWELL Stuart 1976-87
MITCHELL
John 1987-96
ROWLING
Malcolm 1996-2001
ROWLING
Patricia & Victoria 2001-04+
From the Post Office Directory 1874
From the Post Office Directory 1891
From the Kelly's Directory 1899
From the Post Office Directory 1903
From the Kelly's Directory 1903
From the Post Office Directory 1913
From the Post Office Directory 1922
From the Post Office Directory 1938
Census
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