Dorman Avenue South
Above shows the "Greyhound" in the process of being built, circa
Above photo about 2003 kindly sent by John Leach.
Above photo about 2005 kindly sent by John Leach.
Above picture taken from "Riding with the Angels"
Greyhound sign July 1991
Above with thanks from Brian Curtis
Above photo kindly supplied by Dover Library ILL/3719, showing the
Greyhound in 1981.
Above photo taken from "Your Dover" 30 Sept 2009.
Unfortunately closed in 2005, and in March 2003 part of the premises
operated as a pizza delivery service.
Planning permission was applied for 4th December 2007 to change this
premises into a day nursery. However, the decision was refused for the
following reason:- The applicant has not demonstrated that the site has been
adequately marketed for the purposes of a public house; therefore this
proposal could seriously prejudice the economic and social facilities within
the village of Aylesham. Therefore the proposal is contrary to policy SP11
of the Dover District Local Plan.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday,
4 January, 1929.
THE GREYHOUND, AYLESHAM
The Licensee of the "Greyhound," Aylesham, submitted plans for a dance
hall, as an extension to the premises. It would hold about 250 people and
would be chiefly used for meetings. The Police had no objections, and the
plans were approved, subject to the condition that no drink would be
supplied in the room.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 4
TROUBLE AT THE GREYHOUND
John Holland and Joseph Holland, both of Aylesham, were charged with
wilfully damaging a window at the "Greyhound Hotel," Aylesham, on December
2nd, the property of William Arthur Roberts, to the value of 30s.
Joseph Holland pleaded guilty, and his brother not guilty.
they were further charged, and the same time and place, with disorderly
conduct and refusing to quit the premises when requested.
Both defendants pleaded guilty.
Mr. P. Bracner, of Maidstone, prosecuted, and asked the permission of the
Bench to withdraw the charge of wilful damage against John Holland as there
was no evidence against him. He asked the Bench to treat the case seriously
as the licensee wished his authority to be upheld by the Bench, so that he
could conduct his business in the house in an orderly manner according to
Daniel Condrey, a barman at the "Greyhound," said that he served the
defendants, and just before 10 o'clock the licensee shouted "Time!" so
witness went round the house getting the people to go. In the jug and bottle
departments were the defendants and a man named William Baines. He asked
them to go. One of them was drunk, and they said they wanted some more. Mr.
Roberts then left the till and asked them to go. he then tried to push them
out as they would not go, and witness help Mr. Roberts.
Frances Donnelly, a barmaid at the "Greyhound," said that she heard the
licensee call "Time!" punctually at 10 o'clock. From her position she could
see three bars - the big saloon, the small bar, and the jug and bottle
department. All the men left the premises except the two defendants and the
other man. Mr. Roberts asked them to go, but they took no notice of him, so
he asked witness to go for the Police. She could not find the Police, so she
returned through the kitchen entrance. When she went into the jug and bottle
department it was all confusion, and everybody seemed to be scuffling about.
Then the Police arrived but by that time Mr. Roberts had got the men out.
William Arthur Roberts, the licensee of the "Greyhound," said that he
always called "Time!" at five minutes to 10, and his assistant went round
locking the doors as the rooms became empty. On this occasion there were at
least 200 people on the premises and everybody left in an orderly manner
except the two defendants and Baines, who were in the jug and bottle
department. He was at the till. and asked them to go, but they would not. he
counted some more money, but they kept on shouting for more drink. he kept
on telling them to go, but they would not, and, in fact, told him where to
go to! he then got hold of John Hollands' arm and pulled him out. While he
was doing so a hand came round and hit him on the mouth, so he started to
use forcible methods and after a melee he got them all out. he went back to
the till, and he heard four panes of glass in one window were broken. he
went outside and told the Police Officers to take them in charge. Directly
he got outside Baines commenced to assault him, so he shook him up and put
him in a taxi. he turned round to help the Police, and Baines got out of the
taxi and "ran for it." The defendants were taken to Sandwich Police Station,
and charged, but he bailed them out as he did not want them to spend the
Christmas there, and took them home in his own car. he had had trouble of
this kind before, and on one occasion he had to put John Hollands out. As a
rule he was a quiet and well conducted man until he had drink. Joseph always
looked for trouble; in fact, he asked one of witness's servants to fight
P.C. Chalmer, K.C.C., said he was outside the "Greyhound" at 10.10m p.m.
The doors were then closed and everything was apparently orderly. Five
minutes later the door of the jug and bottle department was opened and three
men left hurriedly. The two defendants were shouting and threatening the
licensee. The third man was sitting on the ground and was quiet quiet. He
spoke to the defendants and asked them to desist, but they refused, and
continued shouting. P.C. Ward then arrived and also asked them to stop.
Joseph Holland then rushed up to one of the windows and put his fist through
several panes. They were arrested, taken to Sandwich Police Station, and
P.C. Ward, K.C.C., said the defendants appeared to have a grievance
against the licensee. He asked them to be quiet, and as soon as he had said
this Joseph rushed towards the hotel and put his fist through a window and
said, "If I cannot get in through the door I'll go through the window."
Joseph made a statement at Sandwich, and they both signed it.
Joseph Holland said the licensee hit him with a piece of lead in a
leather case, and he still had the wound, in which he could nearly put his
Superintendent Lane said that Joseph came from Wigan, where he had twice
been convicted for drunkenness. Ever since he had been in the district he
had been a source of annoyance, and when he was brought into the Police
Station he was very threatening.
Lord Northbourne, addressing Joseph Holland, said it was quite evident
that he was a very foolish person when he was drunk. If he could not carry
drink properly he should never take it. There had been a silly brawl and he
was at the bottom of it. he would have to pay the damage, 30s, and he would
be fined 10s. They would both be convicted of disorderly conduct and fined
From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer, 3 May, 1929. Price 1½d.
PROPOSED CLUB ROOMS AT AYLESHAM
Plans for the construction of a club room on the first floor at the
“Greyhound Hotel” were submitted by Mr. H. Ashenden, of Canterbury.
Supt. Lane opposed the application on the ground that the entrance to
the hotel was adjoining the entrance to the club room, and drew
attention to the fact that a club room in another part of the premises
was approved by the Bench recently and restrictions were placed on the
sale of intoxicants in that room. In his view, the present proposal was
in order to escape those restrictions. Mr. Ashenden said the brewers had
no objection to similar restrictions being placed on this proposed club
room, and added the other scheme had been dropped because it was found
too costly and it would have involved an expenditure of about £2,000.
The Bench, after a lengthy consultation, adjourned their decision for a
From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer, 17 May, 1929. Price 1½d.
Supt. Lane said that in the case of the application for an extension by
the “Greyhound,” Aylesham, he had told the licensee he would oppose it,
and the licensee then said he would not appear.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 6
February, 1931. Price 1½d.
WINGHAM PETTY SESSIONS
Mr. Bracher on behalf of Messrs. Jude Hanbury and Company owners of the
"Greyhound Hotel," Aylesham, applied for the renewal of a term licence as
the previous term licence of 3½ years had now expired.
The term licence was undoubtedly for the purpose of the monopoly value and
he now asked the bench to grant a further terminal of 5¼ years. There was an
agreement with the Commissioners of the Inland Revenue whereby, if the
application were granted, the monopoly value of £1,750 extended over five
The Chairman: Why should it take the place of the
An official of the Inland Revenue Department said the
monopoly value had been agreed at £350 per annum. he thought it was usual to
grant these licences for three years, then five years and annually
afterwards. he asked the Bench to consider the district as developing and at
the end of five years they would be in a better position to arrive at the
The bench retired and on returning, the Chairman said
they had decided to grant as annual licence, and the question of the
monopoly value would have to be adjourned to the 5th March.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 6
March, 1931. Price 1½d.
THE GREYHOUND ALLESHAM
Mr. F. Miskin, appearing on behalf of the brewers, the owners of the
"Greyhound," Aylesham, said the monopoly value had been agreed wuith the
Excise Authorities at £5,100, payable in one instalment.
Mr. Chamberlain, for H. M. Customs, said the agreement was subject to the
jurisdiction of the Bench, and he asked the Bench to make it a condition
that the amount be paid before the next Excise Licence was taken out, before
1st October next.
This was agreed to.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 6
AYLESHAM LEGION DINNER
The licensee of the "Greyhound," Aylesham, was granted an extension on
November 7th for the annual dinner and dance of the British Legion.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News. 24 November 1939.
Obscene language at Aylesham.
David Mavin, 54, Hyde Place, Aylesham, pleaded guilty to using
obscene language in Dorman Avenue South, Aylesham, on 21st October.
P.C. Starbuck said that the offence occurred at 11.10 p.m., outside
the "Greyhound" public house. Defendant had been drinking.
Defendant said he must have had too much to drink. He remembered
nothing of it in the morning.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News. 27 February 1942.
John Brown, 44, Meyrick Rd., Willersden, was summoned for committing
an indecent act, contrary to the K.C.C. bye-laws, at Dorman Avenue,
Aylesham, on Jan. 17th.
P.C. Starbuck said the offence was committed when defendant came out
of the Greyhound public house at 10 p.m. He took no notice when twice
told to go to the proper place.
Defendant wrote that he was sorry he had made a nuisance of himself.
A fine of £1 was inflicted.
From "Inns of Kent"; Whitbread & Co. Ltd.; 1948.
After Barham it was something of a revolution in ideas to seek out the
mining districts of Kent, so little known, so vital to the country's
needs and, in a way, so odd. As a comparison the Forest of Dean mines
come to mind, where slums exist in an earthly paradise; but at Aylesham,
which was built and laid out in the twenties of this century, will be
found a clean modem township with all the amenities of suburbia. The
coast lies within a few miles, and it is surrounded by Kent and all the
name implies. The "Greyhound" at Aylesham was designed with the town, is
run for the miners and gives all the service required of a miners' inn.
The "White Horse" at Finglesham serves the Betteshanger Colliery in much
the same capacity. ...
From the Dover Express, 19 May 1950.
WINGHAM PETTY SESSIONS
In contrast to their seven hour sitting at Dover a fortnight ago,
business on Thursday at Wingham Petty Sessions, apart from income tax
and maintenance defaulters was confined to two small cases. The
Magistrates ordered an adjournment until 15th June in the case of
Charles Jaynes, of "The Grayhound," Aylesham, summoned for leaving his
car in the centre of a road and with no rear light, and an absolute
discharge for Bmdr. William Thompson, of 6c, Old Broadlees M.Q., Guston,
summoned for keeping a dog without a licence.
From the Dover Express, 18 May 1951.
Not Licensed for Dancing.
Snowdown Masked Ball Problem.
When Charles Jaynes, of the "Greyhound," Aylesham applied at Wingham
Petty Sessions at Dover yesterday for an occasional licence to sell
liquor at Snowdown Restaurant on June 9th at a masked ball there, the
Chairman (Mr. T. G. Elphinstone) pointed out that the restaurant was
not, in fact, licensed for dancing.
Jaynes: No, I know it's not, but they do have dancing there.
Remarking that it was no concern to the Bench yet, because no offence
had then been committed, the Chairman announced the Magistrates'
decision to grant the application until 10 p.m.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 3
"The Greyhound," Aylesham, darts team, which won the Whitbread
Challenge Cup. Standing: J. Henderson, G. Gibson, V. Roycroft, B. Wall,
F. Llewellyn. Front: C. McIntyre, T. McEwen, F. Carman, J. Robson and F.
From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 18
Former Snowdown, Dover and Margate footballer Jim Jenkin's receives
parting gifts from friends at the "Greyhound," Aylesham, before his
departure, last week, for Australia.
From the Dover Express, 31 July 1970.
Bench grant license for gambling card games at the
An application to play solo, Nap and Nine Card Don had Mr. Frank
Rose, the chairman, and the bench foxed at Sandwich. "This is what is
known as groping in the dark," he told the applicant, Mr. Ted Cooper, of
the "Greyhound Hotel," Aylesham.
The application, the first of its kind to come before the bench, was
granted, but not before Mr. Cooper had explained the workings of Nine
Card Don to Mr. Rose. "I can see I shall have to come over and be
initiated," said Mr. Rose.
Nine Card Don is a game similar to whist, with a tricky system of
trumps card values and scoring. Mr. Cooper learnt it as a boy in
Staffordshire. "I have a large number of visitors from the north who
like to be able to play it," he told the court.
Stakes for the game, and for Nap were fixed at 1s. maximum, with 3d.,
6d. and 9d. for Solo.
"I expect there will be more applications coming before the courts."
Mr. Cooper, chairman of the Wingham and Sandwich Division, Licensed
Victuallers' Association told the Dover Express. "We are always being
asked what games can be played besides cribbage and dominoes."
The CAMRA meeting in September 2008 reported that the pub may be split
into offices and a pub/restaurant.
The CAMRA meeting of 18th January 2010 reported that an application has
been made for the demolition of the "Greyhound."
From the Dover Express, 1 April 2010
Report by Ryhs Griffiths
LANDMARK TO VANISH
One of Aylesham's most prominent landmarks is to vanish after a
last-ditch effort to save it failed.
The "Greyhound" pub in Dorman Avenue South, locally known as the Dog,
is to be demolished by its owner after a bid to have it granted
listed-status was rejected by English Heritage.
Attempt to gain listed status fails
Fight to save pub is over.
ONE of Aylesham's
most prominent landmarks is to vanish after a last-ditch effort to save
The Greyhound pub in Dorman Avenue South, known locally as
the Dog, is to be demolished by its owner after a bid to have it granted
listed status was rejected by English Heritage.
Built in the 1920s when
the village was constructed to house miners at the nearby Snowdown
Colliery, the pub was a focal point in the community for generations.
Councillor Linda Keen, who represents the village at the district
council and was at the heart of the campaign to save the pub, told the
Express the loss of the building is a sad moment for the community.
said: "It was all we could do to try and save it when we found out by
accident they intended to demolish it. At the time Dover District
Council had no obligation
to notify anyone.
"English Heritage decided not to list with great
reluctance, essentially they said too many original features had been
lost over the years so it was not enough to be of interest.
"But they said we should look at the other public buildings left in the
village, like the cafe on the square which used to be the miners
After discovering the plans to knock down the pub, Cllr Keen
successfully put a motion before the district council which would
require the planning department to inform ward councillors of plans to
demolish buildings in their neighbourhood.
But despite this small
victory, she is still disappointed the Greyhound could not be saved for
Cllr Keen said: "It was the original hotel built in
the 1920s, people who came to mine here stayed there before the houses
were built. People are sad to see it go.
"People get on their high horse
about castles and cottages, but buildings like this are an incredibly
important part of east Kent social history.
"At least the district
council will be doing the decent thing in the future."
Above picture kindly sent by Vic Richards, showing the demolition of the
Greyhound, July 2010.
Information received November 2011 tells me Planning application
11/00942. Erection of 6 semi-detached dwellings and construction of a
From the Dover Express, Thursday, 17
November, 2011. 60p
A FUTURE FOR THE OLD GREYHOUND
Plans have been submitted for six homes, two designed to be
rented, on the site of the old the "Greyhound" public house at Aylesham.
Maidstone based Wright Holdings is applying for planning permission for
three pairs of two-storey semi-detached three bedroom houses on the
A dozen car parking spaces to be provided.
The "Greyhound," in Dorman Avenue South was once one of the most
popular pubs in Aylesham.
From the Dover Express, Thursday 2 December, 2010.
PUB SITE PLANS
EIGHT semi-detached houses are planned for the site of what was once a
popular drinking hole.
Kent miners and their families used to frequent the popular "Greyhound"
public house at Aylesham but now a detailed planning application is
being made to Dover District Council to build the eight homes along with
two double garages on the site. The application is being made by Wright
Holdings through agents.
ROBERTS William Arthur to Feb/1929
WYLE Phillip Feb/1929+
MEYRICKS David George 1949 end
JAYNES Charles 1951+
COOPER Adelaide 1974+
Library archives 1974
From the Dover Express