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PUB LIST   PUBLIC HOUSES Barry Smith and Paul Skelton

Earliest 1849

Dog and Gun

Latest 1852

Laureston Place

Laureston Place

Above photograph by Paul Skelton, 19 August 2009, shows the pink house on the left, today's premises that I believe was the "Dog and Gun."

This has just been stated that it is indeed not the correct house (8 July 2011) This house was built in 1832 and the "Dog and Gun" burnt down in 1852.

 

 

Kept by John Stone from 1849-52. Evidently a house of ill repute as shown by the passage from the Dover Express below.

 

From the Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports Advertiser, 2 June, 1849.

A person named Moody, residing at Barham, attended to prefer a complaint against John Stone, landlord of the "Dog and Gun," for refusing to deliver up the clothes &c., of his sister, Elizabeth Moody, who had been living for some time past at the said house.

From the statements made by complainant, it appeared that the girl, about 18 years of age, had left her home some 4 or 5 months since, and that her place of abode, and dissolute mode of living, had not been discovered till recently. With a view of inducing the fallen one to retrace her steps, and retrieve her character, the brother had arrived at Dover, but, on applying for his sister and her clothes, was refused an interview with the one, or the possession of the other; and the present stop was taken to obtain the advice and assistance of the Bench - The particulars of the complaint were corroborated by Elizabeth Moody herself, who, with her father, appeared before the Magistrates, and expressed her willingness to return home with her friends. During the investigation, certain observations implicating Stone as the keeper of a common brothel were elicited, and information against him thereupon laid, upon which the police were ordered to bring him before the Court; and on his appearance, the information being fully sustained by the girl Moody, he was fined £5 6s. costs included, which was paid before the defendant was permitted to retire.

Stone, in his defence, argued that he was ignorant of any improper proceedings in his house, and thought it strange that he should be aimed at by the Bench, when the "Three Tuns," at which several females were kept, and other houses keeping a large number, were left unmolested.

The Bench severely remonstrated with defendant on his attempting to justify his conduct, which, as far as concerned his house, was notorious, and his pretending ignorance of which was most atrocious. With respect to the other places he had alluded to, the Magistrates only awaited the necessary information, and the parties would then be forthwith summoned.

 

[A somewhat similar case was last week presented before the Bench, when a like fine was inflicted. "We cannot do otherwise than co-operate, by our comment, with the proceedings of the magistracy - proceedings that must prove a slight check at least, and we hope a powerful one, upon a vice that rears its hydra head above the innumerable vices of our fair land, and stalks forth with the unblushing effrontery of noon-day. We at the same time incline to commiserate the degraded position of, we had almost said the more automatons of the vile dealers in prostitution, believing that no small number of the "unfortunates" are the victims of deceptive seduction - wiled from the paternal roof by the sophistry of the practiced villain, and, when forsaken by the base authors of their miserable course, thrown with all their immoral habits upon the community; and thus becoming the easy dupes of those who, for paltry gain, despise alike the ultimate wretchedness of their victims, the gross immoralities they are loosening amongst society, and the disgraceful and disgusting system they, by means to disreputable and unprincipled, are supporting and extending."] 

 

 

The public house was completely destroyed by fire in the month of June 1852. The proprietor lived next door, being the owner of both properties. Two floors of his dwelling were also written off, the contents being destroyed.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, June 1852.

At an early hour on Thursday morning (about one o’clock) the slumbering denizens of this almost suburban district were aroused by a cry of “fire.” The alarm speedily circulated through the surrounding neighbourhood and in a short time numbers were hastening in the direction of the scene of the conflagration, which was soon observable from the glare diffused around in consequence of the height the fire had attained. Here it was found that two houses in Laureston Place the two forming fortunately a detached block were on fire. One of the houses was well known as the “Dog and Gun” in the tenancy of Mr. W. Stone and the other was a private residence in the occupation of Mr. Meadows who is the proprietor of both. Almost simultaneously with the shout of alarm the rumbling of a fire engine towards the locality was heard by the inhabitants-terror inspiring, yet grateful sound because it tells of an approaching friend in the hour of need. This proved to be the No. 1 corporation engine and the despatch of it fully manned from Caroline Place to Laureston almost after the echo of the first cry of fire had died away, calls for a word of explanation mingled with a fair portion of deserved praise. On the eve of the fire a party had assembled at the Apollo Rooms and was still there when the message for the engine arrived. Several of them at once rushed to the aid of those of the fire brigade present and before a daughter of Meadows could convey intelligence of the sad event to the Police Station, engine No. 1 was at Laureston Place and ready for action.

The scarcity of water and a disposition in some unknown ones to assume the dictatorship though they were not very remarkable circumstances in connection with fires at Dover rendered the engine useless for twenty minutes or more after the arrival.

At last by a supply of buckets distributed to the houses in the vicinity, water was obtained and the engine brought into play in front of the "Dog and Gun".

Three other engines soon appeared almost together on the spot one of them being from the Castle manned by the men from the 30th depot under the command of Major Hoey, which took up its position on the Old Deal Road another the No. 2 corporation engine, which was placed in the rear of the premises, as was the third from the Heights manned by the Artillery. The two last were copiously supplied with water from the stream.

We have no wish to particularise the efforts made on the occasion because all strove most efficiently to discharge the duties upon which they had so cheerfully entered. The Captains of the corporation engines Messrs G. T. Parks and Jas. Wood while justly acknowledging that the service of their own men was entitled to the full need of much praise. They expressed themselves as highly gratified with the fearless conduct of the military the excellent working of their engines and the determination, which characterised their great efforts of doing all that the exigencies of the case, demanded. Some idea of the water thrown upon the burning houses may be gathered from the fact of the supply for the engines in front having exhausted the contents of more than one well in the neighbourhood. For three hours the engines almost combated the flames and at four o’clock all apprehensions of further danger from the fire, which had completely gutted the "Dog and Gun", and the two upper floors of Meadows house was removed. From the first arrival of the engines it was apparent that no effort could save the house occupied by Stone and it was feared that but little success could crown any exertions directed in reference to Meadows house.

In the latter instance however they particularly succeeded the ground and first two floors escaping comparatively scathe less though furniture removed from them was damaged beyond repair in its hasty transit to the street. In addition to the whole depot of the 30th and a company of the 67th Superintendent Coram and some of his force were promptly on the spot and naturally assisted in the maintenance of sufficient order. A passage of some 16 feet wide intervened between each of the burning houses and the premises adjoining. But for this circumstance and the fact of their being scarcely a breeze at the time the extent of damage might have been much more considerable. A temporary fence between the "Dog and Gun" and the house below was much charred and some of the windows in the upper storey of the house above that of Meadows are said to have been cracked by the intense heat of the conflagration. With these trifling exceptions the engines succeeded in confining the fire to the two houses alluded to as well as preventing it reaching to some out buildings attached to the "Dog and Gun". The origin of the fire consists at present a subject of inquiry. The damage done as follows -: "Dog and Gun" completely gutted and the whole contents destroyed. Meadows house-two floors and contents destroyed and the furniture in the other rooms damaged beyond recovery. The house was insured in the Sun to the full value.

 

Information kindly supplied by Joyce Banks.

More reading of Dover at www.DoverHistory.co.uk

 

 

The name John Stone crops up on two other occasions in Laureston Place, earliest at the "Almond Tree" and later at the "Grove" and I am going to guess that those and this one were in the same premises.

 

LICENSEE LIST

Last pub licensee had STONE John 1847-52 end Bagshaw's Directory 1847 (Beer retailer)

 

Bagshaw's Directory 1847From Bagshaw Directory 1847

 

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