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PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1874

Sandwich Arms

Latest 1995+

86 New Street

High Street 1878 Post Office Directory 1878

Sandwich

Sandwich Arms circa 1890

Picture kindly sent to me by Andrew Price who says the sign above the door reads as follows:- Thompson and Sons, Celebrated Walmer Mild & Strong Ales. genuine London Porter & Stout. H. East. So that dates the picture from between 1878 to possibly as late as 1899.

Sandwich Arms sign 1991

Sandwich Arms sign March 1991.

Above with thanks from Brian Curtis www.innsignsociety.com

Sandwich Arms arch

The above picture, again sent by Andrew Price, shows the Sandwich Arms just on the left. It isn't known yet what the Welcome arch was celebrating, but I believe the date to be similar to the above picture.

Former Sandwich Arms, Sandwich, 2010 Former Sandwich Arms, Sandwich, 2010

Above two photographs by Patricia Streater, 20 March 2010.

From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury, 9 June, 1900. 1d.

ALLEGED FRAUD

Herbert Ernest Adams, publication agent, of London, and Frederick John Gale, historical writer, were charged on warrant with unlawfully obtaining the sum of 1 from Joseph Monck, on the 5th inst., under false pretences, with the intent to cheat and defraud.

Joseph Monck, proprietor of the "Sandwich Arms," said the two prisoners came to his house several times during the day, their last visit being at 8.30. Adams said he had telegraphed and telephoned to his firm in London, but could get no reply, and concluded that his people had gone crazy over the relief in Pretoria. He said no doubt he would have a reply by the morning, together with the money he required. He presented a note, and asked witness to oblige him with something on it. He told him at first that he could not, but eventually handed him 1, saying that was all he could do. Adams pressed him to make it 30s., but he refused. The note (which was presumably of the value of 4 17s. 6d.) was initialled "F.W.J., 20s.," by Adams, in his presence, the latter promising to return. Gale said it was all right, and added that Adams was his assistant. He further said that if it was a matter of 400 he could repay it. They did not return to his house afterwards, and witness had not seen them until the morning, when he was called to the Police station. Both were of very respectable appearance, and this fact, and the plausible story which Adams told, led him to believe them, and advance the money, but afterwards, when he had time to more closely examine the order, he could then see he had done wrong. He afterwards communicated with the police. Replying to Adams, the witness affirmed that the former pressed for a further 10s.

Sergt. Curtis, Deal, deposed that from instructions he received, he went to 17, Blenheim Road, Deal, where he found the prisoners, and after cautioning them, Gale replied that a mistake had been made, and that he knew nothing about it. Adams made no reply. When searched at the Station, Adams had another similar note, and 1s. 0d. in coin, and on Gale was found the sum of 2d.

Gale urged that he knew nothing whatever of the matter. he had met Adams in a casual way, and they had stayed at the same hotels on two different occasions, and they had only been in each others company about four days. With regard to this transaction, he had no idea of its nature at the time. he saw Mr. Monck give his friend the 20s., but thought it an ordinary transaction.

After consultation the Bench remanded the accused to the Petty Sessions on Monday.

 

From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury, 16 June, 1900. 1d.

THE CHARGE OF FRAUD AT SANDWICH

THE PRISONERS SENTENCED

At the Sandwich Petty Session on Monday, before the mayor, Alderman Watts and Lass, and Mr. H. Maurice Page, Herbert Ernest Adams, who described himself as a publication agent, of London, and Frederick John Gale, described as an historical writer, both of very respectable appearance, were charged on remand with unlawfully obtaining the sum of 1 from Joseph Monck, of the "Sandwich Arms," on the 5th inst., under false pretences, with intent to cheat and defraud.

Dr. Hardman said he appeared to prosecute in this case on behalf of Mr. Monck. As some of the Magistrates were not present when the case was formerly before the Court, he would give a few details of the facts. On the 5th June, the two prisoners came several times to the "Sandwich Arms," kept by Mr. Monck, and on the last occasion, about 8.30 in the evening, the elder prisoner who gave his name as Gale, informed Mr. Monck that he had telegraphed and telephoned to his firm, said to be the East Kent Coal Company Limited, but he could not find them in, and he supposed they had gone mad over the capture of Pretoria, and that was why they were away. he said he had no doubt he would hear from them in the morning, when he would have as much money as he required. The younger prisoner, who now gave the name of Adams, but at that time gave the name of Williamson, then produced a bill of exchanges, apparently drawn on bill paper, duly stamped, and asked for a sum of money to be given upon it, either the whole or part of the amount stated. The bill was dated "Dover, 17th June," and was for 4 17s. 6d. sterling, wages and expenses account, in favour of Mr. Frank J. Williamson, and was drawn on the East Kent Coal Company, Limited, of 171, Queen Victoria Street, London, E.C.; it had his acceptance written across it, and was payable at the London and County Bank, Holborn, on the East Kent Coal Company's account. Mr. Monck did not care about advancing money to strangers, and at first refused to have anything to do with it, but ultimately was induced to part with 1 on the security of the document, which was left with him, and at his request the younger prisoner wrote his name, F. J. Williamson, on the back, and that no doubt was the Frank J. Williamson mentioned in the bill. They promised to go in the morning and settle, but Mr. Monck did not hear anything more of them. Consequently he gave information to the police, and they were subsequently arrested at Deal. The elder prisoner, when arrested, said, "You have made a mistake; I know nothing about it;" but the evidence would satisfy the Bench that he took an active part in the negotiations, and although the other man produced the bill, it was done by the two jointly. There was a decided case, the Queen v. Young, which provided that where several persons were present, and were present and were acting together in the process of the fraudulent purpose, there was an obtaining by all. he should call another person who was in the bar at the time, a witness from the office of the Registrar of Joint Stock Companies, to prove that no such Company as the East Kent Coal Company, Limited, had been registered in England, and he should also produce evidence that the same afternoon, but prior to this occurrence, the prisoner took the same bill to Mr. Waters, at the "Market Inn," and attempted to obtain money from him in the same way. There were cases to show that attempts made previous to the offence charged were admissible in evidence in order to prove a guilty knowledge of the persons tendering these documents. It was necessary in cases of false pretences that there must be statements of some pretending existing fact, made for the purpose of inducing the prosecutor to part with his money, and it must also be shown that the prosecutor parted with his property by reason of the false pretences. Mr. Monck would satisfy the Bench on this point. It would be obvious to the Magistrates that there were in this case a number of false pretences in the existing alleged facts. The bill purported to be valid and negotiable, there was the pretence that the prisoner had the authority of a certain firm to draw and negotiate it, and that the money was due to him from them, that the Company was in existence, and had a registered office at 171, Queen Victoria Street; there was also the pretence that the prisoner Adams was the person Frank J. Williamson mentioned in the bill. Under a recent statute, the Magistrates had the power to legal summarily with prisoners in certain cases of false pretences, but he ventured to suggest, with great respect, that this was a case in which their summary jurisdiction could not be exercised. The amount was not a large one, but the manner in which it was obtained showed that the prisoners were acting upon a system. It was a form of fraud that was peculiar liable to be repeated, and it was desirable that there should be some time between the committal and the trial in order that proper inquiries might be made with a view to finding out previous transactions of the prisoners in other matters of this kind.

The Mayor said that if Dr. Hardman would confine himself to the case, the Bench would deal with that point. They were quite aware of all the advantages, and it was only wasting their time to go into that.

Dr. Hardman: If you please, sir.

The evidence of Mr. Monck, taken at the previous hearing was read over, and further examined by Dr. Hardman, prosecutor said: At the time he parted with his money he quite believed the bill tendered to him was a valuable security for 4 17s. 6d., or he would not have parted with his money. It was on the strength of the bill being handed over to him that he parted with his money. He believed the verbal statement made by the prisoner; it was a plausible story, and he thought it was correct.

By Gale: They came into the house in the morning together, and had a few drinks. That was the first he saw of them. Towards mid-day they came in again. They came together three times, and on the first two occasions they did not ask for anything. On the third occasion Gale did sit down in the public bar, and Adams went forward and leant over the bar, but previous to that Gale made a statement. (Gale: That I will explain, I had been to the telegraph office to send a telegram from Adams to his firm). Gale said he had been to the telegraph office, but he did not say for whom. But previous to that he went out, leaving a small brown paper parcel in his (prosecutor's) charge, saying "Take care of that; that is worth 1,000 to me." He took charge of it, and the prisoner soon returned. Adams then came up to him, offered him a piece of paper, and asked him if he would give him the money on this order. He said "No," and then Adams asked him if he would give him 3 upon it. he again said "No," and Adams then said, "Give me something on it; we will have our money at the Post-office in the morning." gale was standing with Adams at the bar, and there were others present. he had never seen the paper in gales' possession. Gale was cognizant of the whole thing. Adams turned to gale, and said, "You have heard what he says; he cannot give us the money."

Adams: This man has nothing to do with me.

Gale: I wish to show that I know nothing about the paper being in his possession, not have I seen it, and I did not ask the landlord for anything. I wish to show that I have had nothing to do with this transaction. Prisoner is a stranger to me. I have met him on two different occasions previously, quite by accident.

Henry Dilnott deposed that he was in the private bar of the "Sandwich Arms" on the 5th inst., about 8.30 in the evening, and saw the two prisoners there. They were in the public bar. He heard them getting the change for this note, but thought that Mr. Monck knew them, till the next morning, when he was told different. Mr. Monck gave them 1 on the note, and Adams said, "I shall be having the money in the morning, and will give you the full amount." He heard Adams ask Mr. Monck for money, he believed it was 30s., on this note. Gale said he had been to the telegraph office and the telephone, and had been to the station for the money, and could not get any reply. (Gale: I had been to the Post-office for him.) Witness saw the document handed to Mr. Monck; it was similar to the one produced. Mr. Monck just looked at it before handing over the money. Gale told Mr. Monck his friend would come and see it paid.

By Gale: He (witness) was sitting opposite the door in the bar-parlour, and could see right into the bar. The door was open all the time.

By Gale: Mr. Monck gave Adams, and not "them" the money. he did not see the document in his (Gale's) hands at any time, but he heard him tell Mr. Monck he should have the full amount in the morning.

Gale: After the money was paid, I said I believed the thing to be right, and if Adams did not pay I would see that it was paid. I had sufficient confidence in the man, and would have cashed it myself if i could have spared it.

John Waters deposed that he kept the "Market Inn" at Sandwich. The two prisoners came into his house on Tuesday, the 5th inst., between two and three o'clock in the afternoon. They came in as ordinary gentlemen, very good customers, and very jolly. A short time afterwards the younger prisoner (Adams) asked him if he would cash or advance him money on a note of hand. He handed witness a bill, or whatever they might call it (the document produced), and asked him if he could charge it. He told the prisoner his housekeeper would be down in a short time, but that he did not do such business at that himself. Prisoners left the bill in his possession, while they went to and from the Post-office, and having no bank account, he took it to the spirit merchants. He could not say whether they both left the house, as they were joking and laughing, but witness took the bill away, and returned with it; the spirit merchants' banking business was over, and they advised him to try the bank in the morning. he told the prisoners he was unable to do anything with it, and Adams then said it did not matter. The elder prisoner did nothing in the matter; he was too busy telegraphing and going to and fro. He would not be certain whether Gale was present when Adams handed him the bill, but he was there when witness brought it back.

Dr. Hardman: Did it seem to you that the other man was cognizant that the money was being asked for on this bill?

Gale: Is that a privileged question - to ask a man's thoughts. Is that evidence?

Dr. Hardman: It is a question of fact. Did what passed make it appear to you that the elder prisoner knew money was being asked for on this bill?

Witness: My conscience was perfectly clear that the two were one.

Dr. Hardman: Did what was said by the younger to the elder prisoner make it clear to you that the elder one knew that money was being asked for on this bill?

Witness: Yes, perfectly clear.

Dr. Hardman: That was the effect of the conversation?

Witness: Yes, sir.

By Adams: The prisoner gale was within three yards, and certainly within hearing, when you asked for the money, and when I came back you told him I could not do it. I don't say you both had your hands in one pocket, but you were as close together as we are now, and I did not whisper, neither did you.

By Gale: You did not individually ask me for money or anything.

Gale said he did not ask anyone for anything, and had not seen any document. He was, he knew, slightly intoxicated, at the time, but he was simply in the company of this man.

Arthur Elwin Taylor said he was a clerk in the office of the Registrar of Joint Stock Companies. He had made a search in the Register of Limited Liabilities Companies, under the Companies' Act, and there was no such Company registered as the East Kent Coal Company, Limited, of 171, Queen Victoria Street, London, E.C.

The evidence of Police-sergt. Curtis, taken at the last hearing, was read over.

The Magistrates were in consultation, when the prisoner Gale said: I should like to ask Mr. Monck a question. (Addressing prosecutor): If you were with an acquaintance with whom you had only been in company two or three days, and were out with him for the day, and that acquaintance asked a person in a similar position to yourself as a publican; to cash or advance money on an order that turned out to be wrong, would you consider yourself to be liable for another man's act?

Mr. Monck: I have nothing to do with that. I will not answer the question, as it has nothing to do with the matter. Your business and my business is altogether different. What i would do and what you would do are two different things.

prisoners elected to be dealt with summarily, and on being charged, both pleaded not guilty.

Adams (addressing the Bench), said: I had the unfortunate coincidence to meet a man in Maidstone about a month ago, who put me into this way of making out these bills. You see I don't understand anything at all about them. He said if I made out a bill at any time I was thrown upon my resources, and got a tradesman to cash it, he would let me have a sum of money on it, and on paying it into the Bank I could meet that bill, and it was accommodation money. He gave me several of these bills at the time, for which I gave him consideration in money. I had made this bill out myself, and i had no intention whatever of defrauding Mr. Monck of the money. My intentions were to re-fund it as soon as I had received it from my firm. This gentleman, who was ignorant of the fact that I had the bill, telegraphed for me, and I had full faith that I should receive the money, and had I received it, I should have gone to Mr. Monck in the morning, and paid him back. It did not come, and I thought that possibly my people might not know the town I was in, and that knowing I had business at Deal, and not thinking I was there, they had sent it on there, and I went on to Deal to see if there was anything for me there, but there was not. I made no false pretence whatever. I did not ask him to lend me the whole sum, because i knew I could not afford to re-pay it from the pay I had to come. I did use the name of a firm I did not know, nor do I know whether there was any such firm in existence. There was no attempt by me to cheat, defraud, or obtain money by false pretences. I have no need of money. I have a living in my hands, and it is not necessary for me to do anything in that way. I am a man who can get my 30s. a day when i am properly working, as I should have been if I could have found my people at the office. When I took the money, I fully believed that I should be in a position to re-pay it as I had stated. I had nothing to do with this gentleman (Gale). Possibly it would have been better for me if I had. He was not aware of what I was going to do, and if I have to be mulcted in the matter myself, I am anxious that it shall fall entirely on myself, and that anyone who happened to be with me at the time will not suffer for anything I may have done. But I did not intend to transgress myself in any shape or form, much less obtain money by false pretences.

Gale made the following statement: I simply wish to say that during the last three weeks there has been very little business doing with commercial men - men who travel. There has been Mafeking day, Pretoria Day, the Queen's Birthday, and one or two other very similar days, three Sundays, and so forth, and if you get pleasuring one day, you are likely to make it last a second day. I am rather a social man, and I happened to meet this gentleman at an hotel I was staying at. We were talking to one another, not having anything to do on these days, and found each other very good company. I then lost sight of him, but we met again at Ramsgate quite by accident, and we spent three-fourths of a day together. I then came here, and we met by accident also - not by any engagement, and we were together during this affair. I have never been in any way inquisitive to know who are his friends or relations, nor has he known mine. I know nothing about him, except from his own statement. I have seen him, as I say, upon three different occasions within the last three weeks, and because I happen to be in his society, and he does this, I am detained with him. He certainly asked me if there was any chance of my letting him have some money, but I said that I could not, having been spending such a lot that I had exhausted myself. But I have never asked anyone for money, I have never shown anyone any document, and I have never handled one. He being in my company, to these gentlemen in Sandwich it appears that I am with him, but according to the evidence of Mr. Monck, who thinks he has lost the sovereign that he advanced, I could see at once that it was a document he was handing over. But apart from that, when we first arrived in Sandwich, Adams asked me to go to the Post-office to telegraph for him to his firm for a sovereign. I cannot give you the name of the telephone clerk, but he can be called, and will verify what I say. he meant, I suppose, to pay the 1 he had borrowed, and I felt sure he would get it. It was nothing to do with me; I did it for Adams. That was early in the day. We liquored in two or three houses, and the whole of the time we were in Sandwich we were drinking, and I did say that if Mr. Monck advanced the sovereign, I felt every confidence in this man. Having been in his company on past occasions, I looked upon him as a man who would meet everything honourable, and I never thought for a moment that there was anything wrong, nor did I think he meant wrong. I made the remark that if he did not pay I would, but it was after the act was done I said that. Mr. Monck and the and the other gentleman have all stated on oath that they never saw any document in my possession. I never asked for any money, nor have I had any money pass into my hands. How can I be found guilty because i happened to be in his company. Because one man happened to be with another, he is not answerable for that man's actions. It has already been a very great inconvenience and loss to me. Now that the holidays are over, I have to recoup myself. I have had a lot of unpleasantness, and I am as innocent as any gentlemen present. It is a coincidence, but I have had to pay the penalty of it up to the present.

Supt. Chaney produced to the bench the following information he had obtained from London and Margate:- The Margate police reported that Adams stayed at 63, Dane Road for about a fortnight, with a Mr. R. Meyer (a visitor from London), with whom he had just previously been lodging at their London residence, 27, Borman Road, Tollington Park. It now appeared that Mr. Meyer had been defrauded by him. On leaving Dane Road, Adams went to the "Imperial Hotel," for a day or two, leaving without paying on June 2nd, and he had not been seen at Margate since. Whilst at the "Imperial," he obtained 3 from the manageress on the security of a draft for 6 18s. which he represented was due to him as wages from A. W. Innes and Co., 161, Upper Kensington Lane, S.E. This draft was probably worthless, but as the manageress declined to prosecute, no enquiries were made. Gale was seen about Margate with Adams, but nothing was known of him.

The Metropolitan Police reported that the prisoner Adams resides at 24, Foxley Road, Brixton, in April last. he remained there about six weeks, with a young lady who he represented as his sweetheart, occupying separate rooms, and the landlady had difficulty in getting the rent, which she did finally by threatening to call the police. he then went to Tollingate Park, where he remained till April 27th, leaving to go to Margate, being a month in arrears with his rent. During the time he was residing in Brixton, he was employed by Messrs. A. W. Innes and Co., 161, Upper Kensington Lane, S.E., as a traveller in laundry requisites, to be paid on commission. At this place he obtained from his employer, be means of bogus orders, about 20, but at present Mr. Innes had not decided to prosecute. the firms given at 78 and 171, Queen Victoria Street, were fictitious. prisoner had obtained a suit from a tailor in Tolingate Park, and a gold watch from a jeweller in Walworth, which were unpaid for. Enquiries at Scotland Yard elicited the fact that a man named H. E. Adams, and somewhat answering to the description of one of the prisoners, was in custody of the Governor of Kilmainham Prison in July, 1899, on a charge of obtaining money by worthless cheques.

The mayor said there was no doubt in the minds of the Bench that the prisoners were both guilty of this offence. They were together in both public houses and in the first instance they attempted to carry out what they were successful in accomplishing in the second. The sentence of the Court was that they be imprisoned for two months with hard labour.

 

From the Dover Express, 13 March, 1970

Sandwich Arms Advert 1970

Advert from the Dover Express, March 1970.

 

From an email received on 20 March, 2012

Henry East had several children one of whom, Adelaide, married a Henry Crouch who lived in Sandwich and they are my Great Grandparents on my Mothers side.

I have been doing some casual investigation of Henry East in terms of checking Census's and he is a bit elusive but although mentioned in 1841 as 15 years old and an Smith (presumably a Blacksmith) Apprentice.

By 1861 he was living in 64 Harnet Street in Sandwich and married to Caroline and was a Inn Keeper although no idea which Inn.

By 1871 he had moved to 58 Harnet Street and was a Licensed Victualler.

By 1881 he was widowed and living at the Sandwich Arms 20 New Street.

Andrew Price.

 

LICENSEE LIST

MANN James 1871-74+ (age 49 in 1871Census) Post Office Directory 1874

Last pub licensee had EAST HENRY 1878-91 (widower age 58 in 1881Census) Post Office Directory 1878Post Office Directory 1882

JARRATT William D 1891+ (age 24 in 1891Census)

MONCK Joseph 1899-1900+ Kelly's 1899

LAWRENCE Thomas 1901-03+ (age 43 in 1901Census) Kelly's 1903

ROUTLEY Robert 1911-22+ (age 43 in 1911Census) Post Office Directory 1913Post Office Directory 1918

SMITH Ernest F 1930+ Post Office Directory 1930

BILTON Thomas Henry 1932-34+ Kelly's 1934 (Phone 223)

SMITH Ernest F 1930+

SWIFT Thomas 1938+ Post Office Directory 1938

MARSH Tom G & Dott 1970-74+ Library archives 1974 Cobb & Co

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Post Office Directory 1918From the Post Office Directory 1918

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