Prince of Wales Terrace
Above picture kindly supplied by Sue Solley, date unknown.
Above shows similar shot from a postcard circa 1909.
Above photo kindly supplied by Stephen Clements Gray.
Another "Queen's Hotel" was
operating along Prince of Wales Terrace as early as 1874 and into the 1960s,
but this was known as the "Queen's
Family Hotel" and should not be confused with this one, as this one was
not referred to as the "Queen's" until just after WW2.
The hotel was built in the reign of Queen Victoria
and was originally called the "South
Eastern Hotel" (1892) it changed name just after the second world war and
finally closed in October 1977.
From the East Kent Mercury 16 June 2011.
50 years ago
Deal hotelier. Captain E.D. Richwood, reported "his plan for turning the
Queen's Hotel, on Victoria Parade, into the finest establishment of its
kind on the south-east coast". A 500 seater banqueting hail, roof-top
garden and heliport were among the changes envisaged.
From the Mercury, 16 September, 1999.
By David G Collyer.
The spandrels above the handsome entrance doorway had
these two figures representing the "South Eastern Railway Company"
and the town of Deal?
From an email received 25th August, 2009.
I worked at
the Queens until 1975. The manager then was Joseph Stryczek.
bought and run down by the Levy brothers I believe they wanted to
convert it to flats or demolish and rebuild as flats.
During this period
no real attempt was made to improve the business and following
receivership and closedown the contents and fittings were auctioned off.
Mr Stryczek tried to buy the huge chandelier that hung in the entrance
lobby but was unsuccessful.
He moved to manage the "Granville Hotel" St Margarets (now also demolished) and then returned to Poland and died
I have some photos of Mr 'Joe' and the inside of the hotel if
you are interested.
I am researching the "Clarenden Tap" /
which was run by my family in 1860. Although badly damaged and
demolished in 1940 after a bombing raid, I feel there must be some
photos in existence.
Any help much appreciated.
Stephen Clements Gray
Stephen Clements Gray kindly sent me the following
photographs and hopefully further information will soon be added.
Above photo shows Joseph Stryczek.
Above shows Queen's Hotel circa 1975.
Above shows the dining area.
More information hopefully to follow.
Information to follow.
Original business card.
Information to follow.
Owned and run by Adam Weinreb in 1974.
From the East Kent Mercury, 22 March,
QUEEN'S HOTEL IS BOUGHT FOR £110,000.
The Queen's Hotel, Deal was sold at a property auction in London on
Thursday. It was "knocked down" for £110,000 by auctioneers, Messrs.
The new owner is Mr. V. Melvani, who lives in Gloucester Court,
London. N. W. 1.
Hillyers says the completion of contacts will take about a month.
Mr. Melvini was in Deal on Sunday and immediately called in the
police after finding evidence of vandalism in various parts of the
He says the windows all around the hotel had been smashed and vandals
had broken into the building to destroy bathrooms and take away lead
"It is senseless behaviour," he commented.
Mr. Melvani, who says he was born in this country, revealed he had no
immediate plans for the hotel, which has 62 bedrooms.
"I would like to maintain it as an hotel, but this vandalism has made
me think again," he said.
From the East Kent Mercury, 23 August, 1979.
QUEEN'S BACK ON MARKET.
The Queen's Hotel, on Deal seafront, - the condition of which is
giving concern to residents - is on the market again. The 62-bedroom
hotel, closed since October, 1977, will be offered for auction in
October, but could be sold privately before then.
The Queen's was first sold by auctioneers, Messrs Hillyers, of
London, in March for £110,000. It went to Mr. V. Melvani, of Gloucester
But the contract was never completed and now the massive building,
which dominates Deal's seafront skyline and virtually overshadows Deal
Castle, is again on the market.
It is understood Hillyers have had a number of enquiries for sale by
private treaty and among these is a consortium with a golfing interest.
Meanwhile the state of the hotel built by the old South Eastern
Railway in 1900 - is giving concern. Vandals continue to smash windows
and thieves have stolen lead from the roof and other parts of the
Deal and Walmer Chambers of Trade is particularly worried about the
state and the future of the Queen's, and has been in touch with the
The Council is expected to debate the situation in the September
cycle of committee meetings. As an empty property, the hotel is not
liable for rate payments although it could be liable to surcharge.
Mr. Roy Knowles, president of the Chamber of Trade, told the East
Kent mercury. "The Chamber has discussed the Queen's Hotel at length and
has communicated its concern to the District Council.
"The Queen's must be brought back into productive use as soon as
possible and certainly before the Open Golf Championships coming to
Sandwich in 1981.
"It is a depressing sight for both residents and visitors. It is a
bad advertisement for Deal. I am pleased to know it is again on the
market and hopeful it will return to its former glory."
From the East Kent Mercury, 28 August, 1980.
QUEEN'S BACK ON MARKET.
The Queen's Hotel, on Deal seafront, is up for sale again. The
62-bedroomed building opposite Deal Castle is being offered for auction
by Worsfolds on Wednesday, October 8th, 1980.
Worsfolds point out the hotel - built by the old South Eastern and
Chatham Railway - now has planning permission for conversion to 39
Planning permission was granted by the Dover District Council some
months ago to two Thanet hoteliers, Mr. Alan Kesterton and Mr. John
They planned a six-storeyed wing in Randleigh Road and a five-storeyed
wing in Deal Castle Road.
There was also going to be a restaurant, private members' club sauna
and a fully-equipped gymnasium. The project was expected to have
provided around 50 jobs.
Neither Mr. Kesterton or Mr. Richardson were available for comment
yesterday (Wednesday) and Worsfolds would not disclose on whose
instructions they were offering the property.
The "Queen's Hotel" has been closed since October, 1977, and since
then has been offered for sale several times.
When it closed, the then owners claimed they were forced out of
business because complying with Fire Regulations was beyond them.
In the last three years, the once-elegant hotel has deteriorated
rapidly and has been attacked by both thieves and vandals. Lead has gone
from the roof and dozens of windows have been smashed.
From the Adscene, 14 October, 1980.
NO BUYERS FOR HOTEL
Two Westgate hotellers who bought the vast Queen's Hotel on Deal
seafront last year failed to sell the building when it went under the
auctioneer's hammer on Wednesday.
The hotel - which was being offered vacant and with planning
permission for conversion into flats did not reach its reserve price of
Now Mr. Alan Kesterton of the St. Clement's Hotel, St. Mildred's
Road, Westgate, says that if he and his partner - John Richardson
of the Bridge Hotel - do not get a good enough private offer they
will convert the building themselves.
Our original plan was to convert the hotel into 39 flats with a
health club and sauna in the basement," he explained. "We hoped to get
the work finished by next year."
"But financing the conversions is now a bit of a problem - the
recession and high interest rates are to blame. If we don't sell the
Queen's we wont be able to start work until around 1982.
Mr. Kesterton said he had received several enquiries about the
building and a number of people had said they would buy flats once the
conversion had been completed.
From the East Kent Mercury, 6 November, 1980.
SCHEME TO PULL DOWN QUEEN'S HOTEL.
Proposals are before the Dover District Council for the demolition of
the Queen's Hotel on Deal seafront. It is planned to pull down the
Victorian building and erect a block of 60 flats.
The Queen's is owned by two Thanet hoteliers, Mr. John Richardson and
Mr. Alan Kesterton, who have been given planning permission for an
additional six-storied wing in Ranclagh Road and a five storied wing in
Deal Castle Road.
Their idea for the creation of a club with restaurant, sauna and
gymnasium, and luxury apartments. But the revelation caught up with them
and the idea was no longer viable.
An attempt to sell the 62-bedroomed hotel by auction in October was
stopped when it failed to reach the reserve of £150,000.
Mr. Richardson told the East Kent Mercury: "With the present
financial climate there is no future for the Queen's. We hope to get
planning permission for demolition.
"The new block of flats will be designed to blend with Deal's
distinctive seafront. The flats will be in the mid-market sector and
will sell for £30,000 each.
The Queen's Hotel has been closed since October, 1977, and has become
a target of thieves and vandals. Lead has gone on the roof, and almost
every window in the building is now broken.
From the East Kent Mercury, 18 December, 1980.
QUEEN'S MAY HAVE TO BE PRESERVED.
A plan to demolish the Queen's Hotel on Deal seafront will be
considered by the District Council Planning Committee next month. It is
proposed to build a block of flats on the site, but the plan could be
thwarted by the Department of the Environment deciding the building is
of historical or architectural interest.
An exclusive report in the East Kent Mercury six weeks ago, the
owner's of the Queen's, Thanet Hoteliers Mr. John Richardson and Mr.
Alan Kesterton, have now abandoned their idea of converting the hotel
into luxury apartments and a club, with restaurant and sauna.
After an unsuccessful attempt to sell the property by auction, they
are now planning to build a block of 60 flats.
Mr. Richardson told the East Kent Mercury: "The new block of flats
would blend with Deal's distinctive seafront.
The flats it is understood, would sell at around £30,000.
Mr. Richardson and Mr. Kesterton are working in close co-operation
with Deal building contractor, Mr. Arthur Letheren, who says that since
the Queen's was closed in October, 1977, vandals have made the building
"Thieves have taken lead from the roof with the result the building
is waterlogged .Fittings have been wrenched away in rooms. It looks
just as bad as bomb damage," he says.
Mr. Letheren claims there is no alternative to demolition and Mr.
Richardson says further deterioration to the 85-year-old building could
make it dangerous.
Mr. Letheren adds the demolition of the Queen's and the development
of the new flats would create jobs within the local building industry,
which is now depressed.
"The development would not only remove an eyesore and improve the
appearance of Deal seafront, it would create jobs in the town," says Mr.
The planning committee on Thursday were told by Mr. David Sturt,
Director of Planning, he had "heard informally, the Queen's had been
listed as being of historic or architectural interest."
From the East Kent Mercury, 2 January, 1981.
WHITEHALL THWARTS PLAN FOR QUEEN'S.
The Queen's Hotel, on Deal seafront, has been listed as a building of
architectural and historical interest by the Department of the
Environment. This will thwart the plan for its demolition to make way
for a block of flats. The Queen's was built in the closing years of the
The owners, Thanet hoteliers Mr. John Richardson and Mr. Allan
Kesterton, with Deal developer Mr. Arthur Letheren plan a block of 60
flats on the Queen's Hotel site.
The hotel has been empty since 1977, and have been the target of
vandals and thieves. Virtually every window in the property is broken
and lead has been stolen from the roof. Inside, damp has caused ceilings
to fall and fittings have been wrenched out and stolen.
The Department of the Environment's decision came after
representation from Deal Society, the Civic Trust and the Victorian
The hotel was surveyed by the Department in 1972 and was then
considered not to merit inclusion on its statutory list.
The Department says it reopened its survey of the Queen's because of
renewed interest from various amenities grounds.
Mr. Letheren said the demolition and building of the flats would have
given a boost to the ailing local building trade.
At Tuesday's meeting of the District Council Policy and Recourses
Committee, Cllr. Albert Cavell said the Preservation Order placed on the
Queen's Hotel meant it could soon become the town's black-spot.
Cllr. Cavell persuaded the committee to apply to the Department of
the Environment to rescind the Preservation Order of Nelson Hall, which
it owns and wants to sell. The hall, he emphasised, was a special case.
"We will be doing nothing more than any private owner would do," he
This is an artists impression of the development planned for the
"Queen's Hotel" site. The project comes before the District Council's
Planning Committee this month.
From the East Kent Mercury, 12 March, 1981.
NEW OWNERS PLANS FOR THE QUEEN'S HOTEL.
The Queen's Hotel, on Deal seafront, derelict for three years, has
been acquired by Mr. Arthur Letheren, local builder, contractor and
developer. He plans a £2½ million complex of
luxury flats, possibly with a sauna and squash courts.
Mr. Letheren, whose offices in Victoria Road, Deal, have acquired the
62-bedroom hotel from two Thanet hoteliers, Mr. John Richardson and Mr.
With his new business partner, Mr. Trevor Smith, he is now applying
to the District Council for planning permission to demolish the
At the end of last year, the Department of the Environment
listed the Queen's as a building of historic interest because it is the
only large scale secular design by James Brooks, well-known designer of
churches a century ago.
This followed representations by various local conservationalists.
Before demolition can begin, if permitted by the local authorities,
Mr. Letheren must persuade the Department to rescind its listing, and
hopes the District Council will back him in this move.
Mr. Letheren says residents who called for the listing have created
an impossibly situation.
He told the East Kent Mercury: "Why, so suddenly, has this building
been listed? Such action should have taken place 10 years ago - not when
the building is in a state of un-repair, I am very disappointed ... and
so are the majority of people in Deal who would like to see the derelict
Queen's come down.
Mr. Letheren says the cost of restoration is no longer viable and
adds if the Queen's was restored as a hotel, it could not become a
Deal-born Mr. Letheren calls the Queen's a "white elephant." he says
he admires old buildings and lives in one, but claims the Queen's has
nothing to offer Deal.
"Deal id dying through lack of industry. My plan for the Queen's
hotel would provide substantial employment in the depressed building
industry for more than two years.
"Demolition and rebuilding will provide work for more than 100 men at
a time when the recession is hitting Deal hard!"
Mr. Letheren says the injection of some 40 new families to the town -
by living in the area complex - would create benefit for all shops. And
he adds his complex would give a new dimension to the most prominent
site in Deal.
From the East Kent Mercury, Thursday 12 March, 1981
This is how the "Queen's Hotel" site, on Deal seafront, will look if
plans for the demolition of the hotel and its redevelopment are allowed.
The corner will become the setting for a group of apartments. A new
application for the demolition of the hotel, which has recently become a
listed building, is to go before the District Council.
From the East Kent Mercury, Thursday 19 March, 1981
This model shows in detail the proposals for the Queen's Hotel site,
on Deal seafront. It has been prepared by local architects, Messrs.
Robinson and Miller, and is on view at Deal Library until Saturday,
From the East Kent Mercury, 2 April, 1981.
PETITION SEEKS TO DEMOLISH QUEEN'S.
An application for the demolition of the Queen's Hotel, on Deal
seafront, will be considered by the District Council's Planning
Committee tonight (Thursday). The applicant, Mr. Arthur Letheren, has
backed his plan with a petition signed by over 600 local residents
in favour of the Victorian hotel being pulled down.
The signatures were collected in a matter of a few hours in one
session in Deal High Street, says Mr. Letheren.
But there is determined opposition from conservationists. The
Victorian Society, Deal Society, the Ancient Monuments Society and
the Wellington and District Residents Association all want the Queen's
Hotel to be saved.
The various organisations want the facade preserved at all costs.
Deal Society is demanding the District Council to take "all steps
allowed by law" to ensure repairs are carried out to the building -
"before irreversible deterioration occurs."
But Deal and Walmer Chamber of Trade is supporting Mr. Letheren's
The Chamber emphasises the plan to pull down the derelict hotel and
build a complex of 40 luxury flats will bring an influx of purchasing
power to the Deal area and provide badly-needed local employment.
In his report to the Planning Committee tonight, Mr. David Sturt,
Director of Planning will support demolition. He says the redevelopment
plan respects the scale and character of Deal seafront.
"In my view it is an imaginative and vigorous design. The detailing
is sensitive... It will enhance the character of the Conservation Area
at this point," he says.
Mr. Sturt points out no adverse representations have been received
from residents adjoining the site.
"The proposed development, in my view, will do more to enhance the
character of the area than the retention of the existing building and
will be of greater benefit to the town as a whole," he says.
Mr. Sturt suggests the Department of the Environment's move a few
weeks ago in making the hotel a listed building after refusing this some
10 years earlier was to create a "spot list" to enable a full assessment
to be made.
He makes the point that Planning Committee members may feel the
listing, other than as a holding exercise, was somewhat dubious for a
building that is less than a century old and not a particular piece of
outstanding Victorian architecture, particularly with alterations made.
From the East Kent Mercury, Wednesday 15 April, 1981.
Mystery blaze in the night.
The blaze which gutted the Queen's Hotel in the early hours of
Thursday morning - sealing the fate of the controversial building - was
Many people gazing at the war-setting conditions of the Victorian
structure over the last few months had forewarned that it would end its
days in flames.
But even we, the sight of the blaze shooting up through the roof and
out of the windows, caused some surprise and shock, particularly coming
only 12 days after another massive fire destroyed Denne's former deposit
in Queen Street.
Firemen were called to the Hotel just after 3.20 am where nearby
resident Mr. David Lloyd, at Deal castle Road, spotted the fire.
More than 40 firemen were called in from Deal, St. Margaret's,
Sandwich, Eastry, Canterbury, Thanet and Folkestone, including an
emergency tender and two turntable ladders. Divisional officer Frank
Coult and Station Officer Mark Gidman of Deal were among the officers
who attended. Ambulance-men were also called.
The fire fighting operation went on throughout the day and night and
into Friday. Firemen pumped water from the sea and police closed off
On Friday evening firemen were called back to the hotel after more
smoke and sparks were seen coming from the building.
On Saturday morning talks were held on site between the Fire Brigade,
District Council and representatives of the owner. They decided some of
the gable ends, part of the roof and some of the facade should be
demolished for safety.
Internally, many parts of the hotel were extensively damaged,
including the reception area, Jacobean staircase and the lift-shaft. The
lift had crashed to the ground. The top storey's were the worst
affected, although fire doors had prevented the blaze reaching some of
Forensic experts from the Home Office were due to start their
examination yesterday (Tuesday) to try to establish the cause of the
Flames shoot through the roof of Deal's Queen's Hotel during the
height of the blaze in the early hours of Thursday.
FIRE WAS 'GREAT SHOCK' TO OWNER
Senior detectives called in to investigate the blaze which gutted the
Queen's Hotel say they know exactly where it started - but they are not
revealing any more details until forensic experts have completed their
Extra police officers were drafted in to Deal on Thursday to make
house-to-house inquiries in the seafront area to find out if anyone
heard or saw anything suspicious in the early hours.
A group of teenagers who were seen nearby when the blaze was first
noticed had their names and addresses taken by the police. But since
then, detectives have been busy investigating the background to the
They have studied a series of cuttings from the East Kent Mercury
files on the history of the hotel, and have also spoken to senior
officials in the District Council's Planning Department and the chairman
of the Planning Committee, Cllr. George Aslett, about the planning
controversy that has surrounded the building in recent years.
They have contacted some of the past owners of the hotel, and are
waiting to talk to the present owner, local building contractor and
developer Mr. Arthur Letheren, when he returns from holiday in Spain
A statement, issued on Mr. Letheren's behalf, explained that Mr.
Letheren went to Spain on Tuesday last week following a "useful meeting"
with the Planning Committee the previous day, when his proposals for the
redevelopment of the site were discussed.
Mr. Letheren had been told of the fire, and the news came as a great
shock, says the statement. "We understand it may have been started
deliberately and wish to express our condemnation in the strongest terms
at such a wanton and purposeless act of vandalism.
"We are relieved that nobody was injured and wish to express our
praise and thanks to the Fire Brigade for their efforts to control the
blaze and minimise the effects of the fire." The statement emphasises
that the fire damage will have complicated the task of demolition, but
will not effect the plans.
Small parts of the building had been taken down to ensure the safety
of passers-by, but no further demolition would be carried out until
permission was granted.
"We do not feel our planning application will be effected by the
results of the fire, but that it will be considered on its merits by the
Planning Committee, and particularly following our informal meeting with
the committee, we are confident of a favourable decision."
The application, and a report on the informal meeting, will come
before the Planning Committee next Thursday, April 23.
In the meantime, detectives area continuing their enquiries into the
fire at the "Queen's, and also into other unexplained fires in Deal in
These include the blaze which destroyed Denne's former depot at Queen
Street on March 28, a fire last year which caused extensive damage to a
storeroom and flat behind a wine merchants' shop in the High Street, and
a fire which destroyed a stolen motor-cycle in Woolworth's car park off
Wellington Road. All four of these fires were in a fairly small area.
Outside that area, but also under police investigation, is the blaze
which destroyed two huts at the Charles Sports Ground earlier in March.
Above:- The charred remains of the hotel's main stairway.
Above:- A fire officer examines the wrecked interior of the hotel.
From the East Kent Mercury, 14 May, 1981.
THE QUEEN'S BLAZE WAS 'VANDALISM'.
Detectives investigating the fire which caused extensive damage to
the Queen's Hotel on Deal seafront five weeks ago now say they believe
it was an act of vandalism.
Detective inspector Brian Flood, in charge of the investigation, said
this week: "We take the view that the fire was an act of vandalism which
got out of control."
He confirmed that the blaze was believed to have started in a small
pile of rubbish at the foot of the lift shaft. The shaft then acted like
a chimney, spreading the flames to the rest of the building.
"There is no evidence that any liquid agent was used to assist the
spread of the fire," said Det Insp Flood.
Police Officers who arrived at the scene shortly after the fire was
discovered, in the early hours of Thursday, April 9th, spoke to a group
of young youths who were seen in the area, and took their names and
From the East Kent Mercury, 25 June, 1981.
INQUIRY INTO HOTEL PLAN.
The Queen's Hotel, on Deal seafront, is to be subject of a public
enquiry. Mr. Michael Heseltine, Environment Secretary, has ordered the
enquiry following an application from Mr. Arthur Letheren to demolish
Mr. Letheren, who wants to demolish the hotel and build luxury flats
on the site, has asked Dover-Deal MP, Mr. Peter Rees, to intervene. Mr.
Rees has said he will take up the matter with the Department of
The date for the public enquiry has not yet been fixed nor the venue.
It is anticipated the enquiry will take two days to complete and, due to
the public interest, will be held in Deal, possibly at the
The Queen's was built in 1892 for the Old South Eastern Railway to
the design of James Brook, a great Victorian church architect.
The Department of the Environment says it wants to satisfy itself on
the structural condition of the property and the possibility of its
Relevant to this, say the Department, is the intrinsic architectural
and historic importance of the hotel and the contribution it makes to
the character of the Conservation Area.
The Queen's was virtually destroyed by fire some weeks ago and since
then has been declared unsafe by the District Council. making the
property safe to passing traffic and pedestrians has involved a
huge scaffolding programme and has cost Mr. Letheren more than £50,000.
Mr. Letheren told the East Kent Mercury yesterday (Wednesday): "The
new block of luxury flats would make a valuable contribution to the
council's rate fund and the residents an equally valuable contribution
to Deal's economy. There have been many enquiries for flats on Queen's
From the East Kent Mercury, 13 January, 1982.
QUEEN'S TO COME DOWN
WHITHALL AGREES ON DEMOLITION
The Department of the Environment has given permission for the
"Queen's Hotel," on Deal seafront, to be demolished - but has refused
permission for the plan to build 40 flats on the site. The Department
has also refused permission for the demolition of Marine Lodge, in Deal
Castle Road. The decision has been welcomed by Mr. Arthur Letheren and
his partner, Mr. Trevor Smith. "This is just what we wanted," says Mr.
The decision follows the two-day public enquiry in September,
conducted by Mr. C. F. Allan, into the application for demolition of the
The hotel, built at the end of the last century was badly damaged by
fire last April.
In his report. Mr. Allan says the value of the building is more
historic than architectural and he emphasises the proposed development
has some striking merits. It is, he says, a highly imaginative
The Inspector said; "There is a clear ambivalence of informed opinion
as to the contribution made by the Queen's to the conservation area and
the character of the locality generally. It "bullies", it was said,
almost everything in sight, I agree. But for nearly a hundred years it
had boldly terminated the terraces of Victoria Parade and the long vista
from the south as a powerful landmark observed by some, it appears, with
an affectionate revulsion.
"However, there is no doubt about the importance of the site which is
a pivot on the long seaside parade where the castle separates the
seafronts of Walmer and Deal. For this reason and because of the
neighbouring terraces of Deal Castle Road, Ranelagh Road and Victoria
Parade, the site is a sensitive one as well as a conspicuous one, but
the design of the "Queen's Hotel" is largely unresponsive to these
sensitivities and its contribution in this respect I find it unworthy in
the present terms of architectural and townscape design.
"The evidence strongly suggests that conversion to offices or
restoration for use as a modern hotel may be discounted, but conversion
to residential uses such as flats or homes for the elderly is a clear
possibility and the site is particularly well located for such uses.
"The evidence also suggests that earlier proposals for conversion to
flats, even with the sacrifice of Marine Lodge to allow for new
extensions, have failed to materialise. Undoubtedly, this is owing, in
part, to the height of the rooms, and the basic plan of the building and
the fenestration, which are not easily adapted to modern uses.
"On the other hand the allegedly profitable scheme for conversion to
private homes for the elderly has received planning permission and the
prospective developer, Mr. Evans, appears willing and anxious to proceed
if he could acquire the building at the right price. This would be an
admirable use, the building, or at least its facade would be preserved,
the location is excellent and East Kent is well-known for such projects.
The question is whether it is now a realistic proposal."
The Inspector said the proposed redevelopment scheme had some
striking merits. It was a highly imaginative conception providing 40
small homes in a most acceptable and attractive living environment, and
was a thoughtfully designed building characteristic of its time with a
most interesting form and profile.
"Nevertheless, I have serious doubts as to its suitability for this
prominent and sensitive location. It might well be said, for example,
that at the pivot point at the turn of Victoria Parade into Deal Castle
Road, where a show of strength or a positive motive might be needed, the
building steps down to a low level in a show of weakness.
"Indeed, from a distant view, where the "Queen's Hotel" serves so
well, I fear the stepped down storeys, the raking roof lines and the
almost free-standing lift tower and dome might give the impression of a
well-constructed ruin when seen against the trim and regular lines of
the adjoining terraces. But more importantly, by raising to its maximum
height of about 19.7m with a stout overhang on its top storeys on 15.5m
from the south-facing windows of the terrace houses on Ranelagh Road, it
"bullies" these houses as much as does the "Queen's Hotel."
"It appears that there are living rooms in the semi-basements as well
as the ground floors of these houses and I believe they will be
seriously deprived of daylight as well as sunlight.
The report ended: "Having concluded that planning permission should
not be given for the redevelopment as proposed, and that in these
circumstances consent should not be given for the demolition of Marine
Lodge, the question of the "Queen's Hotel" remains.
"The applicants affirm that if their redevelopment proposals are not
given permission they will revise them, although they also affirm that
without the site of Marine Lodge it would not be worthwhile. In either
event the Queen's would lie exposed to the weather and would rapidly
deteriorate further. I am aware that the cost of covering the building
would entail an extensive and expensive support system especially in
such an exposed position. This appears to me to be an unreasonably heavy
financial burden to place on the owners.
"I also find it unrealistic to accept the argument that all the
financial consequences of the file could be expected to be fully met by
successful insurance claims. Further, it appears to me that the
prospects of a ready and reasonable sale to a developer who would make a
financially successful conversion to an acceptable use is fairly remote.
The object in any event, would simply be the retention of a facade of
controversial architectural merit which would need a good deal of
From the East Kent Mercury, 11 August, 1982.
THE END OF THE QUEEN'S
AND JOE IS DEAD TOO.
In the week when Deal's Queen's Hotel was finally demolished came
news of the death of one of its best-known managers. Mr. Joe Stryczek.
Stryczek died in his native Poland. He was 71 and leaves a widow, two
children and grandchildren.
Mr. Stryczek had six years as a director-manager at the "Queen's,"
and after that was manager at the "Granville Hotel," St. Margaret's Bay.
He returned to Poland on retirement in January 1981.
He fought with the Polish Army against Germany in 1939 and escaped by
way of Romania and Turkey to join the British Army in the Middle East.
He took part in the Desert Campaign against Rommel and, with the
Polish Corps under the legendary General Anders, fought in the epic
battle for Monte Cassino.
From the East Kent Mercury, 14 September, 1983.
QUEEN'S SITE PLANS GET GO-AHEAD - AT LAST
Development plans for the former "Queen's Hotel" site on Deal
seafront have been given the go-ahead at last.
After an amazing attack on the architects by one counsellor, the
Planning Committee gave permission for six town houses, 44 flats, a
coffee lounge and basement car park on the site.
But they want talks with the applicants, A. A. Horner, Ltd. of
Folkestone, over the window designs which Cllr. Mrs. Gwladys Payne
described as "zany and alien."
The counsellors had already had talks with architects John Clague
Ltd. and had made comments on their original plans.
Looking at the latest designs, Cllr Noland Sargent asked why the
architects couldn't submit a "simple" plan which would merge with the
rest of the seafront.
"It could be an hotel, which Deal sadly lacks," he said. Their
imagination should have gone a bit further than this.
They look like chicken houses - perhaps they will be used for
Planning Director Mr. David Stuart said the committee had raised
several points which, in his view, the applicant had complied with.
Cllr. Mrs. Payne then launched her attack.
"I find it most extraordinary that the architect could be so
insensitive to criticism of he design," she said.
"He must have taken umbrage and this must be the reason for this
noughts and crosses effect.
"It is zany and alien and how anyone could have done anything so daft
I don't know.
"The ridiculous portholes and triangles ruin it. He meets us part way
and then sticks in some more.
"I don't like the little square, big triangle, little square, big
triangle. It's revolting."
Mr. Stuart said that the problem was that individual committee
members "like officers" had their own view on how the designs could be
"The point we have got to accept is that there are certain basics -
scale, massing and materials - which you have discussed with the
architect and he has met.
"I think he is entitled to have a formal decision on his
"Whether some of these details are sufficient for you to oppose the
scheme I would suggest they are not."
The applicant was concerned about the delay, he said, and he had
submitted an identical application so that if it was refused he could
lodge an appeal but continue negotiations to get over the council's
"He may feel your requirements change from meeting to meeting," said
Council Chairman Cllr. Walter Robertson said he found the amended
designs more appealing than the original plan.
"I find it a bit massive and I think it will look a little heavier
than the rest of Prince of Wales Terrace," he said.
Cllr. Mrs. Payne still maintained the windows looked "funny and
And Cllr David Gledhill said all they were talking about was
aesthetics. "I think the design is exciting and imaginative."
Cllr Mrs. Payne commented; "I don't think it's imaginative. The first
one was imaginative.... imagination gone wrong."
The committee approved the plans, but reserved its approval of the
window design so that further negotiations could take place.
From the Dover Mercury, 1 September , 2011.
HISTORY SOCIETY PANS PROPOSAL FOR HOTEL SITE
TWENTY-FIVE years ago plans to develop the site of the old Queen's
Hotel were criticised by the Deal Society as being unsympathetic to its
Proposals for the key seafront site of the once imposing building
were being considered by the district council's planning committee.
Faced with the Deal Society's criticism, councillors were told that
the architects responded saying they were "fully aware of the site's
The block of flats that replaced the hotel is called The Queens after
the building it replaced, though it began life with a different
"South Eastern Hotel" was built in 1892 for the South Eastern Railway
Company after the railway line had been connected to Deal, making
seaside holidays more accessible and accommodation more in demand.
Designed by church architect James Brooks, it was his largest secular
Local builder James West built the 62-bedroom hotel, which was
renamed the "Queen's Hotel" after the Railway Company sold the building.
It finally closed for business in 1977.
On Thursday, April 9, 1981, a mystery blaze swept through the
building in the early bows of the morning and fire-fighters were at the
scene for more than 24 hours.
Photographer Basil Kidd captured the drama and his pictures are
featured in Basil's Deal, by Judith Gaunt.
Forensic experts were called to the former hotel and eventually
detectives decided the blaze was "an act of vandalism which got out of
Ownership of the land changed several times over the years. There
were opposing views on whether to retain or demolish the building and
various plans were submitted, including one to convert it into an old
In September, 1981 a public inquiry was held to consider an
application to demolish the building. Permission was given, new plans
were approved and eventually in 1989 "that black hole", as one district
councillor called it, was erased and building began to once again change
the skyline on Deal seafront.
From an email received 10 October 2013.
I just saw the history of The "Queens Hotel" at Deal, which certainly
stirred some fond memories. I don't have much information to add, I'm
afraid, except that I used to stay there when I was a BMW Technician.
BMW had their training establishment in Dover in the 1970s - when BMW
cars were the latest thing - and always billeted us in The "Queens." The
place was in decline by that time, but was still a fabulous old hotel,
full of character. The photo of 'Mr Joe' brought back memories, too. Joe
was a lovely man, and it was a joy to see his face again after all these
To the utter disgust of us grease-monkeys, BMW decided not to use The
"Queens" in 1974, and put us instead in the "Holiday Inn," to be kept
awake all night by lorries! I never saw The "Queens" or Joe Stryczek
Thank you for the memory.
Kind regards Chris Manning
RICHWOOD Captain E D (Manager 1961+)
WEINREB Adam & STRYCZEK Joseph
Owned by Adam Weinreb
Library archives 1974