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8 New Street (Turne-againe Lane)
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Photos above and below Prince of Orange circa 1980 by Barry Smith. |
Prince of Orange 19 July 2009, photo by Stuart Kinnon.
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Above shows the Prince of Orange sign in 2007. |
Mentioned in Pigot's Directory 1840 under "Taverns and Public Houses". As a beerhouse of 1846 it presumably honoured the prince, who was
reported off Dover, with five hundred ships and transports, on 3 November
1688. His landing was much further West but the result was significant.
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From the Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports General
Advertiser, Saturday 15 March, 1845. Price 5d.
CORONERS INQUEST
On Wednesday, at 8 o'clock in the evening, an inquest was held at the
"prince of Orange," New-street, before G. T. Thompson, Esq., coroner to
the borough, on the body of ----- Tart, who was taken in a fit while in
the act of shaving himself, and never spoke afterwards.
Several witnesses were examined, and the jury, after a brief
deliberation, returned a verdict to the effect that the deceased died
from natural causes.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent Intelligencer,
10 March, 1871. Price 1d.
AIDING A SOLDIER TO DESERT
William Beercroft, a miserable-looking man of the vagrant type, was
charged with aiding a soldier to desert from the 67th Regiment,
stationed in this garrison, and with having in his possession a tunic, a
pair of braces, a belt, and a cap, the property of the crown.
Jacob Robbins, landlord of the "Prince of Orange" public-house, York
Street, said: About eight o'clock last evening the prisoner came into my
house. He left a small parcel there, and went out, as he said, to see
about a dog. He came back in about five minutes with two soldiers. He
asked for a pint of beer. I brought him in the beer and he said I might
as well make a pot of it. Prisoner then asked me if I had a private
room. I told him I had not. He said he wanted to write a letter, and I
told him that he could go into the smoking-room. He said that that would
not do, and I told him that I could not accommodate him further. He then
asked me if I had a aback yard. I told him I had, and one of the
soldiers and the prisoner then went out together into the yard. Shortly
afterwards the other soldiers followed him. The prisoner took his bundle
with him; and as the yard was full of linen, which was drying, I
followed them, in order to look after my property. When I got out on the
step leading into the yard, which was about twelve yards from them (I
could not see them very well, because the clothes were in the way), I
heard them chattering to themselves. When they observed me, one of them
said, "All right, governor, you can go back." I stood waiting in the
yard for a few minutes, and as I thought they had been there long
enough, I went towards them. When I got within two or three strides of
them I heard a noise at the back gate, and on reaching them found that
one of the soldiers had got over the wall. The prisoner had the tunic,
and belt, and the braces produced on his arm and the cap was on the
ground. I could not see whether the soldier who was getting over the
wall was dressed, or not. The soldiers were in uniform when they came
into my house. Prisoner wanted me to take the things and let him go; but
I told him he was in the wrong hands for that.
Sergeant George Smirl, of the 67th Regiment, deposed: I am a
colour-sergeant in the D company of the 67th Regiment. The braces, the
belt, the tunic, and the cap are all the property of private William
Choice, who belongs to my company. He has been absent since yesterday
afternoon. He had no right to part with his regimentals.
In reply to the Magistrates, Mr. Robbins said that the bundle the
prisoner had with him when he came into the house disappeared at the
same time as the soldier.
The prisoner had no real defence to offer; but he told a rambling
story, apparently with the object to leading the Bench to think that his
unsuspecting innocence had been imposed upon.
The Magistrates told him that he had been guilty of a grave offence,
and sent him to prison for three months, with hard labour.
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Rigden and Company had plans approved for rebuilding in 1901 and on
completion it stood on the corner with Queen's Gardens. It later passed to
Fremlin and extensive alterations to the bars were made by Ernest Lee in
1980.
Unfortunately currently closed, hopefully temporarily. (March 2008).
Another pub had displayed this sign. It traded from Stembrook and older
residents will remember it more readily as the "Ancient Druids".
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From the Dover Mercury, 1 January 2003.
All change for pub-goers.
CUSTOMERS of a Dover public house have noticed some major changes at
their local.
As well as new landlords at the Prince of Orange in New
Street, the pub has undergone a complete transformation following a
massive refurbishment costing £40,000.
Pubmaster, who own the Prince of
Orange, aimed to enhance its quality and character and it now boasts a
new kitchen as well as brand new fixtures and fittings,
The landlords,
Carl Hood and Derek Fletcher, took on the tenancy at the pub after
realising the potential it had. Having worked in the licensed industry
for many years, the pair bring a wealth of experience with them.
As well
as introducing food which includes bar snacks, an a la carte menu and
traditional Sunday roast, Carl and Derek have also organised a football
team to represent the pub in local leagues and live entertainment every
Sunday evening.
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From the Dover Mercury, 20 February 2003.
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From the Dover Mercury 20 March 2003.
Ingredients are just right at refit pub.
CHEF Carl Hood has mixed the perfect ingredients to make the Prince
of Orange in New Street, Dover, the name on satisfied customers' lips.
As the new manager, he has masterminded a £40,000 refit of the
centuries-old hostelry to create what he proudly calls "a country pub in
the middle of town".
Carl added: "It was a beer house in 1846 and was rebuilt in 1901. Now
it has a family friendly atmosphere after a four-month refurbishment
programme. We also have a pool table and new furnishings."
Carl, 35 was head chef of a top hotel before deciding on his new
challenge.
"I came to Dover and saw for myself the potential of both the town
and the Prince of Orange," he said.
"There's a fully-equipped kitchen and we specialise in producing
quality food at affordable prices, whether for bar snacks or full
meals."
The Prince of Orange Sunday roast is £4.50 but there are baguettes
and jacket potatoes with a variety of fillings, specials every day and a
vegetarian menu with unusual and mouth-watering dishes such as sweet
potato and chestnut bake, as well as veggie burgers.
With a team of trained staff to look after visitor needs, regulars
and tourists alike can be confident that The Prince's reputation for
hospitality is as strong now as it was 150 years ago.
New Look: The newly-refurbished bar at the Prince of Orange.
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From the Dover Mercury 25 January 2007.
Pub row ends in jail term.
A CONSTRUCTION worker who admitted assault, twice breaching an ASBO and
possessing cannabis has been jailed for six months.
Paul Morris, 33, of Longfield Road, Dover, breached the ASBO by
going into the Prince of Orange pub in May and assaulting Katherine
O'Reilly after an exchange of words.
After she threw her drink over him,
he retaliated and unintentionally hit her on the chin with his glass,
Canterbury Crown Court heard.
Morris said he had been reckless.
The ASBO
was handed out by Folkestone magistrates in August 2004.
One of its conditions was that Morris kept out of pubs and clubs in
Dover because of his history of alcohol-related offending.
But on July
22 last year, a CCTV operator saw him go into the Golden Lion in Priory
Street.
Police were called and Morris admitted going into the pub, but
said his ASBO had only 30 more days to run.
He also handed over to
officers a small amount of cannabis, saying it was for pain relief
because he had a back problem.
Peter Alcock, defending, said Morris
picked up a lot of work in pubs.
"The risk of harm to the public is
low," Mr Alcock added.
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From the Dover Express, 9 August 2007. Report by Rhys Griffiths.
SMOKING BAN - PUBS FEEL THE EFFECTS A MONTH ON.
The Prince of Orange in New Street, barman Ricky
Stepney said business had slowed and predicted the worse was yet to
come.
He said: "Trade has dropped quite a lot, nobody likes having to go
outside to smoke. The people who supported the ban don't come in and
when the weather changes it will get worse."
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From the Dover Express, Thursday 12 June, 2008.
Prince ready for rebirth
UNCERTAINTY surrounding the future of the Prince of Orange pub in Dover
has finally been resolved after it emerged the property has been sold to
a local pub landlord.
The New Street boozer had been on the market for
£250,000 through property agency Paramount Investments since February.
It was put up for sale by owners Admiral Taverns, who at the time said:
"it no longer fits in with our pub portfolio".
The last tenancy holders
of the Prince of Orange were husband and wife Dave and Ann Bliss of Whitfield,
(shown below) who ran into financial difficulties.
Paramount Investments
previously stated their desire for the freehold to be taken on by
someone wishing to keep it going as a pub.
Company spokesman Andy Bernyeat confirmed an offer matching the asking
price had been made. He said: "It's been sold, subject to the contracts
being exchanged.
"The idea is that it will stay as a pub. We are talking
about someone local in the trade, who wants to keep it open."
Mr Bernyeat said the sale was good news for the pub trade, which has had to
change the way it works since the introduction of the smoking ban last
year.
He said: "We are pleased that it will stay as a pub.
"We're always
glad to see pubs open. They are under a lot of pressure at the moment,
and some have had to close for various reasons."
Final paperwork is
expected to be tied up this week.
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Currently closed February 2008.
The CAMRA branch meeting of June 2008 reported that the pub had been sold
and will be reopening some time in the future. September reported that the
change of use application that was submitted had been refused and it was up
for sale again.
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From the Dover Express, Thursday 20 November, 2008.
Application to turn Prince of Orange pub into flats.
HOPES of keeping open the Prince of Orange pub in New Street, Dover,
a drinking establishment since 1846, appear to be dashed. A planning
application- has been made by Victor Evans to change the use of the pub
by the provision of four one-bedroom flats, with a first-floor extension
above a flat roof area. The ancient property, in what was once
Turn-again Lane, was rebuilt in 1901.
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LICENSEE LIST
HATTON John 1840+
POULTER James 1844
HART George Frederick 1846-58+
 
WRAY John 1854?
ESCOTT Mrs Sarah 1874
HUDSON George Mar/1877+
RIGDEN 1878
FAGG William 1879
TURNER John 1879 end
GILLETT J 1897 end
SCOTT George junior 1897-98 end
CLAYSON Isaac Stephen 1898-99
WILLIAMS Mrs Eliza F 1901
FRANCIS H 1901-3 end
MARTIN W or MAITH 1904-09 end
MARTIN Charles 1909
MAITH W 1909 end
ROBINSON Charles 1910-Apr/12
DEETH Percy 1913?
HINKS George Alfred Apr/1912-22 dec'd
PAY Mrs Edith M 1922 only
HARRISON Raymond or W R 1922-25 end
REES Albert 1925-27 end
DENT Edward Barry 1927-42 end
   
MARTIN W 1942
NICE Charles Frederick 1942-56 end
   
McLERNON Horace Percival Victor 1955 ?
BEER Peter William 1957-66 end
EADES Cyril J 1966-78 end
Whitbread Fremlins
McNELLY M 1978
WYLDEBORE Frank 1978
LEE Ernest 1980-84 end
BANNAN James 1984+
HOOD Carl & FLETCHER Derek 2003+
BLISS Dave to 2008
The Dover Express reported George Hinks to be from Faversham.
From the Pigot's Directory 1840
From Bagshaw Directory 1847
From Melville's Directory 1858
From the Post Office Directory 1874
From the Kelly's Directory 1899
From the Post Office Directory 1901
From the Post Office Directory 1913
From the Post Office Directory 1922
From the Post Office Directory 1930
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1932-33
From the Post Office Directory 1938
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1938-39
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1948-49
From the Kelly's Directory 1950
From the Kelly's Directory 1953
From the Kelly's Directory 1956
Library
archives 1974
From the Dover Express
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