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Licensing System 1834

 

 

From the Dover Telegraph, 1 February 1834.

There are 75 licensed public houses in Dover, 25 of which belong to a brewery, the firm consisting of a late jurat, a jurat, and two members of the common council. Another brewing firm has 17, the senior of which was formally a jurat, and one of his sons has just resigned his seat in the council; the whole being extensively related to different members of the corporation. A firm at Canterbury has five houses; three belonging to the Dover Bank, one to a spirit merchant in the corporation, four different brewers have one each, and the remainder are free. The last new license was in 1826, and that was granted to the late gaoler on his retirement. Several were granted previous to 1824. One license has been transferred to a new house, in consequence of a foot path, leading to the old one, being stopped up. One of the 26 houses was built by a jurat several years ago, on charity land, and a license obtained for one of his domestics who held it for a few years. It was offered for sale to another brewer who, finding he could not get the license guaranteed, declined the offer, when it was purchased by the present proprietors, and has been regularly licensed ever since. Mr Poulter, stated, that he had been a brewer in the town for ten years; and thought he had repeatedly applied, could never obtain a license. A person named Hart, had a license for seven years, and was turned out, without knowing the cause, unless it was his vote at elections. Fisher had a free license in 1824; but his brewer failing, it was refused on the ground that it belonged to the brewer and not to the publican; after being kept out of business twelve months, it was renewed. A great number of the publicans, at least two thirds, vote with the corporation at elections. Persons trading under prescriptive rights, without being free, pay no fines; but they cannot obtain a publican's license unless they purchase the freedom. The licenses for Margate, &c. were formally taken out in the court at Dover, but now the mayor, with two jurats, &c. holds a court there for that purpose. Spicer of Margate, had a free house there, but being obliged, by ill health, to reside away from it, the license was refused. A petition from his brother and several of the inhabitants, was presented to the bench; but no renewal obtained. Some time afterwards the man committed suicide, and on the appeal of his creditors, the license was restored. The number of public houses at Margate is 34: most of them are understood belong to the deputy. There are nine at St. Peter's and Broadstairs; one at Birchington, and two at Ringwould.

 

From the Kentish Gazette, 14 January 1834. Price 7d.

LICENSED VICTUALLING HOUSES in CANTERBURY.

To a question from the Commissioner:-

Mr. Peirce replied that there were 65 licensed public-houses in the city, including the barrack canteens. Up to the year 1828, there had been for a period of thirty years not more than sixty houses.

The Mayor stated that many years ago there was a great objection to increasing the number of licences. He was a wine merchant, buying his wines from the growers abroad, and wished to open a house for selling wine only, but could not obtain the license. Within the last sixty years the number of public-houses had decreased by fifteen, to his own knowledge. In 1776, during the mayoralty of Mr. Simmons, the “Shakespeare” in Butchery Lane, was licensed for the sale of London porter.

It appeared that a great portion of the houses are in the hands of brewers.

Adjourned at four o'clock.

MONDAY.

The Commission opened at ten o'clock. A great number of people assembled in the council chamber, in which the proceedings were going forward.

THE LICENSING SYSTEM.

Alderman J. Cooper said that at one time there were brewers who exercised great influence with the magistrates of the city, and established a monopoly in the trade.

Alderman Snoulten said it was a matter of notoriety that a brewer for a great number of years exercised considerable power in the return of representatives for the city, he had the command of the funds for that purpose, and it was generally supposed money was contributed from those funds to the election of Mayor. He was speaking of from 15 to 20 years ago.

The Mayor said this was before the time of the present magistrates.

Alderman Snoulten said a citizen who did not coincide in the views of this brewer, was not likely to have been elected Mayor.

The Mayor observed that if a man kept an irregular house, and the Mayor suspended his license, the brewer who owned the house interposed, and the license was transferred to another person. This fact in some measure accounted for so few new houses being licensed.

Alderman Snoulten said there was a contract as between landlord and tenant, that if the license was suspended the publican was to leave the house or pay a penalty of £100 to the brewer.

Mr. Masters considered the beer act had checked the monopoly, by allowing other beer than that of the brewers to be drank in the city. The beer was now better and cheaper.

Alderman Snoulten did not think the beer act had any influence in opening the licenses.

John Marsh, keeping the “King's Arms,” in St. Peter's, said that he was subject to a penalty of £100 in case he refused to transfer his license, on the magistrates suspending it.

Thomas Mason stated that he had applied for a license in the year 1826. Two licenses, the “Lion” and “Dolphin” had been granted in the previous year. He was unsuccessful. Alderman Henry Cooper told him he need not apply again, as the magistrates did not intend to grant any more. In the succeeding year one was granted, and two more in the rest. He brewed his own beer, the others did not.

Carter stated that he had applied for a license for a house and been refused; at the same time a sergeant at mace had obtained one for a house in the neighbourhood of seven or eight others. This was the “Cricketers.” There was no other within several hundred yards of the one he applied for.
 

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