LORD CLYDE Pubs of Walmer

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Earliest 1860

Lord Clyde

Latest 2010

61 The Strand

Deal

01304 372201

Above shows the Lord Clyde 1900 with licensee Herbert Hilson and family at the door.

Above photo kindly sent by licensee Paul White, 22 March 2010.

Above coloured photographs by Tony Wells 2011.

Black and white sign thanks to Deal library, 1992

The pub sign shown has been taken from a set of Whitbread Inn Sign cards released circa 1952.

From "Inns of Kent"; Whitbread & Co. Ltd.; 1948.

Deal and Walmer are contiguous and there is little to choose between them. Both are graced with one of Henry VIII's charming but businesslike clover-leaf castles (that of Walmer is the official residence of the Lord Warden of the Cinque Ports), and both have played a great part in the medieval history of England. The sea fronts are architecturally enchanting, with every known period represented, but mainly Georgian and early Regency. The "Stag" at Walmer and The "Lord Clyde" are both good Regency houses within a few yards of one another, facing the sea, just waiting for history to turn another page. From without one catches the cheerful glint of a well-polished tap room, for quiet comfort is the keynote of them both. Only, at some time or another, The "Stag" has stolen a march on The "Lord Clyde" and has produced a neat little Regency balcony with canopy complete, which seems hardly fair.

Earliest found to date is the 1861 census that suggests the pub was operating around 1860.

Named after 1st Baron Clyde, also known as Field Marshall Colin Campbell (1892-1863) he was a British soldier of Scottish origin, born Colin Macliver he took his name from his mother's brother Colonel John Campbell, when only 15 he was presented to the Duke of York who enlisted him under the surname Campbell.

From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury, 11 September, 1869. 1d.

ANNUAL LICENSING DAY

The renewal of the license of Mr. Romney, the landlord of the "Lord Clyde" beer-house was opposed by the Superintendent of Police. Mr. Mourilyan, who supported the renewal, however, produced a memorial, signed by the neighbours, setting forth the good character of the landlord, and that the house was no annoyance to them, and also one signed by some gentleman in the neighbourhood, also testifying to his good character; and stated that Mr. Romney had lived many years in the service of the late Sir N. Knatchbull, also with Colonel Rae and other gentleman of position. The Magistrates immediately renewed the license.

The pub was supplied by Jude Hanbury of Canterbury at the turn of the 19th century. By 1924 the pub was supplied by the East Kent brewery who advertised the premises as including a beerhouse with stabling. Mackeson's took over later and in January 1841 placed a protection order on the building. An outlet for Fremlins in 1974. and after this saw Shepherd Neame take over the building and it it these today who still supply the beer.

The licensee Herbert Hilson eventually moved next door and opened Dainties Sweet Shop round about 1900 and in 1923 another Hilson was licensee. At present it is unknown whether they were related..

The "Alma" used to stand close by but now unfortunately closed.

From an Email received 1 January 2011

I am just researching family history and found in 1881 Census that my Great Great Grandfather William Thomas Bullen is listed as a Licensed Victualler for The Lord Clyde, Walmer Kent in 1881.

Photo of him shown below supplied by Ken Paul, his Great, Great Grandson.

Have sent for his will – had 70 pounds left to his son who is also listed as a Licensed Victualler in 1896 when he died. He was licensee from at least 1874 till at least 1891 when he retired, he died in 1896.

So will see if his son took it over when he died. His son, however, was licensee of the "Dolphin" from 1878 to 1908.

I am currently going through all other census years to see what/who was at the address 59 – 61 The Strand, Lord Clyde.

Regards, Marie Grech

Doubleview, Perth, Western Australia.

From the East Kent Mercury 16 August 1990.

SAYING CHEERS TO PHIL.

Phil Bailey has pulled his last pint at The "Clyde" in Walmer and left the pub after nearly eight years behind the bar.

Customers have been saying goodbye to Phil and his wife Cindy and a series of presentations were organised.

An official Royal Marines School of Music picture was handed over by regulars from the barracks, and staff from the National Westminster Bank, along The Strand, gave Phil an iced cake.

Above shows an advert that appeared in the Deal Mercury 2010

Above shows an advert that appeared in the Deal Gig Guide 2010.

I have just been informed that the pub was closed in the latter part of 2010.

Sign shows the information seen in the window, January 1st, 2011, both photos taken by Tony Wells.

From Porters Chartered Surveyors 1 January 2011

THE LORD CLYDE, 61 THE STRAND, WALMER, DEAL, KENT CT14 7DP

Freehold Guide Price: £220,000 PLUS VAT PLUS SAV

Prominent on Walmer Strand overlooking seafront. Easily managed, attractive one bar community public house with food potential. Single bar with central bar servery, trade kitchen, customer toilets, cellar. Three bedroom private accommodation plus lounge, kitchen and bathroom. Rear trade garden with covered smoking shelter.

Ref: PA451

From the Dover Mercury, 24 November, 2011. 70p

RICH HISTORY OF LORD CLYDE PUB

The Strand is one of the town's best assets, with its historic lifeboat house, St Saviour's Church, the line of beach huts, boats and the Deal Memorial Bandstand on Walmer Green. Many shops have been converted into homes, although many are still in business along the long row of properties overlooking the sea.

There also used to be plenty of pubs, but now only one remains, which is the "Stag."

Scaffolding is up around the former "Lord Clyde" opposite Walmer Paddling Pool, which closed about a year ago. There are plans to convert it into a restaurant.

The pub was named after "Lord Clyde," who was born Colin Campbell in Glasgow in 1792 and died In 1863.

He was an outstanding soldier, and as a young recruit adopted his uncle's name. He saw action in the Peninsular War between 1808 and 1814 and was stationed in Gibraltar, Barbados, China and India, honoured for his bravery with a knighthood and a sword of honour presented by the city of Glasgow.

He was commander-in-chief in India at the time of the Indian Mutiny and brought about the relief of Lucknow. He was promoted to the rank of Field Marshall on his return to Britain. He was buried in Westminster Abbey.

The "Lord Clyde" beer house opened about 1860 and in 1870 the landlord was imprisoned for six months' hard labour for beating his wife.

According to The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer (with Kingdown and Ringwould), the East Kent Brewery in 1923 advertised the premises as a "beer house and stabling".

From 1924 through to the 1940s it was considered to be a cosy family pub with ex-Royal Marine bandsman Billy Monckton in charge.

He was still behind the bar when the "Lord Clyde" was granted a wine licence, followed by a full licence in 1950.

Shepherd Neame took over the premises in 1971 and in the early 1970s the landlady was Ellen Pickford, a life-tong fan of comedian Max Wall, who is said to have visited the pub.

The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer (with Kingsdown and Mongeham) was written by Steve Glover and Michael Rogers, who both live in Deal. It was first published by Bygone Publishing, Whitstable.

A hardback version was on sale last year and the book is now on sale as a paperback for £15.99 from Tylers and Ropers in Deal High Street and also Deal Book Shop in Broad Street.

LICENSEE LIST

BUSHELL William (56 The Strand)