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Page Updated:- Wednesday, 15 December, 2021.

PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1846-

Red Rover Inn

Latest 1970

20 Castle Road / 1 Upper Dumpton Park Road

Ramsgate

Red Rover Inn

Above photo date unknown.

Red Rover Inn location 2009

Above image from Google showing the same location in March 2009.

 

I am informed that the road was renamed around about 1913.

Now a residential property.

 

From the Kentish Chronicle, 23 February, 1861.

RAMSGATE.

Isaac Gifford, of the “Red Rover,” Castle Cottages, was summoned for having his house open for the sale of beer twenty minutes before one o'clock on the morning of Sunday, the 10th instant.

Defendant pleaded guilty.

P.C. Waterman, K.C.C. stated that he was passing that way when he found the door open. He went in and saw five men standing before the bar drinking. One of them left as soon as he (the constable) went in, and one of the others endeavoured to conceal the beer under the chair.

Defendant said he had kept the house for 15 years and had never been complained of before. He was not aware the clock had struck twelve. The men said they had come from Herne Bay.

Fined 5s., and cost 9s. Money paid.

 

Kentish Chronicle 23 March 1861.

RAMSGATE PETTY SESSIONS.

Isaac Gifford, of the "Red Rover," Castle Cottages, was summoned for having his house open for the sale of beer twenty minutes before one o'clock on the morning of Sunday, the 10th inst.

Defendant pleaded guilty.

P.C. Waterman, K. C. C., stated that he was passing that way when he found the door open. He went in and saw five men standing before the bar drinking. One of them left as soon as he (the constable) went in, and one of the others endeavoured to conceal the beer under the chair.

Defendant said he had kept the house for 15 years, and never been complained of before. He was not aware that the clock had struck twelve. The men said that they had come from Herne Bay.

Fined 5s., and costs 9s. Money paid.

 

Canterbury Journal, Kentish Times and Farmers' Gazette, Saturday 30 August 1862.

Deaths. St. Lawrence.

August 23, at Castle Cottage, Mr. Isaac Gifford, of the "Red Rover Inn," at an advanced age.

 

Kentish Gazette, 24 February 1863.

A Temporary authority has been granted by the magistrates to Edward Taylor Dawson, to sell under the licence of his wife, late the widow of Isaac Gifford, of the "Red Rover," Castle Cottages, until the next transfer day.

 

From the Kentish Chronicle, 4 July, 1863.

INQUEST.

On Thursday last T. T. Delasaux. Esq., held an inquest at the “Red Rover Inn,” Ramsgate, upon the body of Elizabeth Gordon, aged 39 years, who had committed suicide this morning by throwing herself into a well at the rear of her house, 8, Castle Cottages. It appears that she has for some years been cohabiting with a man named Cherrison Smith, who has recently absconded from his home. Ever since then deceased has been in a very desponding state. She has left three children, the oldest aged 17 years. The jury returned a verdict of temporary insanity.

 

Thanet Advertiser - Saturday 08 October 1898.

2. FOR SALE, GENT'S SWIFT BICYCLE.

Thomas Bradley, "Red Rover Inn," Castle Road, Ramsgate.

 

Thanet Advertiser, Saturday 10 May 1919.

Died on way home. Sad end of Ex P.C. who served through the war.

News has this week been received in Ramsgate of the death, from cerebra-meningitis, of Staff Sergeant-Farrier Ernest Beer, Army Veterinary Corps, at the age of 41.

Mr. Beer was a well known resident of Ramsgate, having been a member of the Borough Police Force and subsequently licensee of the "Red Rover Inn," Castle Road.

He served in France and Italy, and afterwards returned to France, proceeding to Cologne with the Army of Occupation.

Mr. Beer had been an enthusiastic cricketer in Ramsgate, having played a good deal on the Warre Recreation Ground.

For particularly the whole period he was in the army he served overseas; in four years he had only 20 days leave, and a poignant fact was that he was on his way home when death occurred at a clearing station.

The deceased was a shoeing smith by trade before joining the police, and he came of a family which had been raised on the estate of Lord Guildford at Waldershare Park. He married a daughter of the late Captain Alfred Page, who was for many years skipper of the Ramsgate Harbour Tugs Vulcan and Aid. For the widow and two children the deepest sympathy is felt.

 

Thanet Advertiser, Tuesday 20 December 1938.

Drawing New Year. No drinks after 11 p.m.

In spite of the arguments put forward by Mr. M. C. C. Daniel, Ramsgate magistrates, on Monday, follow the example of Margate magistrates last week in rejecting an application for extension of hours at Ramsgate public houses running into New Year's Day, which falls on a Sunday.

Mr. Daniel, who represented 89 Ramsgate licensees, applied for liquor licence extensions and till 11 p.m. on Christmas Eve and Boxing Day and from 10 p.m. on 31st December to 2:15 a.m. on New Year's Day.

The magistrates sittings were the Mayor of Ramsgate (Alderman A. B. C. Kempe,) Col. E. E. Ogier, Mr. C. J. Fells, Mr. H. J. Perry, Alderman W. T. Smith and Councillor Mrs. F. L. Dunn.

Mr. Daniel made a similar address to Ramsgate magistrates as he did to the Margate bench, pointing out that they had already granted extensions to hotels to enable them to continue and celebrate the coming in of the New Year. He was only asking that the man in the street - the working man - should have the same facilities for seeing in the new year as those people who have means and the desire to visit hotels in Ramsgate and Thanet and continue their festivities to a late hour.

The Best Judges.

It might be said that there was no demand for the extension but if that was the case why should 89 licences trouble to come and make the application?, asked Mr. Daniel. Surely the best judges of demand in the licensing trade were the licences themselves? He suggested that the demand would be greater if the extensions were granted until 12:15 then if it were grounded until 11:30 p.m.

After mentioning the other points which he emphasised at Margate, Mr. Daniel concluded "I ask you, sir, what harm can this application do? It seems to me that it is perfectly reasonable and one in the interests of the town that you should grant."

Mr T. Hoppit, who was also making application on behalf of a number of licences and clubs, said he supported Mr. Daniel's remarks in the highest possible terms. He thought Ramsgate should be put a little more on the map for the New Year extensions.

The Mayor then asked Mr. H. Freeman, licensee of the "Red Rover Inn," what sort of demands there was for New Year's extensions.

Mr. Freeman, who did not apply for any New Year's extensions but for an hour on Christmas Eve, Boxing Day and 27th December said he personally did not get a great demand for it.

Mr. Hoppit said there was a demand in the case of his client.

After a brief retirement, the magistrates announced that the extensions will be granted until 11 p.m. on each occasion.

 

LICENSEE LIST

TURNER George 1841-47

GIFFORD Isaac 1847-Aug/62 dec'd (age 74 in 1851Census)

DAWSON Edward Taylor Feb/1863-1867+

DAWSON Sarah Mrs 1871-82+ (age 70 in 1871Census)

BRADLEY Thomas 1890-1903+ (age 36 in 1891Census) Kelly's 1903

BEER Ernest 1907+

KEEN Edward 1913+

Last pub licensee had BOWES Albert Edward 1914-22+

FREEMAN Harry 1929-53

WOTTON Thomas K 1953-55+

WELLINGS Henry 1957+

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Kelly's 1903From the Kelly's Directory 1903

 

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