DOVER KENT ARCHIVES

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Page Updated:- Saturday, 31 July, 2021.

PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1863

(Name from)

Lord Warden

Latest 1980+

5 Mill Road (in 1871 census)

13 Mill Road (in 1881) & Hamilton Road

Cemetery Road 1869 Deal Licensing Register

Deal

Lord Warden circa 1955

Above photo kindly sent from Steve Glover. Date circa 1955.

Lord Warden 1975

Above photo, 1975, kindly sent by Benita MacLennan.

Lord Warden, 1997

Above and below photographs kindly sent by Patricia Streater and shows the pub just before demolition. It was taken in March 1997.

Lord Warden, 1997
Lord Warden sign 1991Lord Warden sign 1991

Lord Warden signs August 1991.

Above with thanks from Brian Curtis www.innsignsociety.com

Lord Warden site 1998

Above photo kindly supplied by Patricia Streater show the new building on the site of the "Lord Warden" November 1998. At that time the shops were "Alldays" and "Golden Curry, Takeaway."

 

The Deal Licensing Register states that the pub changed name from the "Sydenham Green" on 10 September 1863.

The text Lord Warden (P.H.) is shown on Kent Sheet 58.04 (LVIII.4) being a reprint of ‘First Edition 1873' Old Ordnance Survey Maps published by Alan Godfrey Maps.

 

From the Deal, Walmer and Sandwich Telegram, 29 April, 1871.

Petty Sessions.

C. A. Smith, landlord of the "Lord Warden" public house, Mill Road, charged with keeping house open for sale of beer during prohibited hours, viz. at 11.45 a.m. on Sunday last.

Dismissed on payment of costs 6s. 6d.

 

From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury, 29 April, 1871. 1d.

PUBLIC HOUSE OFFENCES

Charles Alfred Smith, landlord of the "Lord Warden," public-house, Mill Road, was summoned, upon the information of the Superintendent of Police, for having his house open before half-past 12 on Sunday, the 23rd inst., viz., at a quarter to 12. Defendant did not deny the fact, and gave the following explanation:- The mother of his servant, Mrs. Moss, occasionally came in to help her daughter, as she had not been well for some time. She was there on Sunday last, and when she had done her work in the morning Mrs. Smith gave her some lunch and with it some beer, but the old lady preferred taking it home, and just as she left the house the Superintendent came to the door.

After consulting together, the Magistrates said that although defendant had broken the law, still they thought it was more in ignorance and they had no desire to record a conviction against him, and they would therefore allow the summons to be withdrawn if he paid the costs, 6s. 6d.

Defendant at once paid the money, and said that he was out for a walk on the morning in question, or in all probability the offence would not have occurred. He had always kept a respectable and orderly house, but he was obliged to have the house open on Sunday to enable the tenants to fetch their water.

 

From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 12 October, 1883. 1d.

SERIOUS ACCIDENT

Mr. Smith, the landlord of the “Lord Warden Inn,” Cemetery Road, was chopping down an old wooden out-house on Wednesday afternoon last, when he accidentally brought the hatchet across his hand, severing the tops of the two fore-fingers.

 

From the Deal, Walmer, and Sandwich Mercury, 15 December, 1900.

SANDWICH POLICE COURT

Stephen Tyler, labourer, and Mary Ann Adams, widow, both of Deal, were charged with being drunk and disorderly, near the "Lord Warden," the previous evening.

P.C. Hogben said he was called about 9.45 the previous evening, to the First Lane. Defendants were then opposite the "Lord Warden." They were both drunk and made use of very bad language. He took them into custody, and the male prisoner became very violent, and witness had to obtain assistance.

The Mayor said the Bench had decided to take a lenient view of the case, and both prisoners would be sent to prison for 7 days, with hard labour.

 

Jim & Win MacLennan 1978

Above photo showing licensees Jim & Win MacLennan circa 1978, but not taken at the Lord Warden in the photo. Kindly sent by Benita MacLennon.

From an email received 30 July, 2012.

These photos were taken in the mid 1980's when I was a regular customer here.

Andrew brown and mate 1980s

The photo above is myself and my mate wearing the glasses.

Lord Warden bar maids 1980s

The picture above showing the two bar maids.

I would love to see any more photos if possible.

Regards,

Andrew Brown.

From an email received 6 August, 2012.

Please find below one picture I can find of my late father when he was the licensee at The Lord Warden pub in Deal c. 1980.

I believe that the barmaid closest in the picture above was a Lyn or Michelle Fox who lived just across the road from the pub – I may be wrong though.

Ian McDonald Foster

Regards

Paul Foster.

 

Unfortunately demolished and new buildings put on the site. Thanks to Patricia Streater for that information. She follows up by saying "The Hamilton Road end of this building was an Alldays store but is now a Co-Operative. The other end, with the address of 185 Mill Road, is a Chinese & Oriental Cuisine Takeaway and a Co-Operative shop.

 

A Charrington & Co. outlet in 1974. Library archives 1974

 

LICENSEE LIST

Last pub licensee had ESTES James White Sept/1863+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

SMITH J 1867+ The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

SMITH Charles Alfred 1871-91+ (also grocer age 42 in 1871Census) Post Office Directory 1874Kelly's 1878Post Office Directory 1882Post Office Directory 1891

DUNN George Egbert 1899-1934+ Kelly's 1899Kelly's 1903Pikes 1908Post Office Directory 1913Deal library 1914Post Office Directory 1922Kelly's 1934

MOREY Walter Albert 1938+ Post Office Directory 1938

MacLENNAN James 1974-76 Library archives 1974 Charrington & Co

FOSTER Ivan Macdonald late 1970s-1980

https://pubwiki.co.uk/LordWarden.shtml

 

Post Office Directory 1874From the Post Office Directory 1874

Kelly's 1878From the Kelly's Directory 1878

Post Office Directory 1882From the Post Office Directory 1882

Post Office Directory 1891From the Post Office Directory 1891

Kelly's 1899From the Kelly's Directory 1899

Kelly's 1903From the Kelly's Directory 1903

Pikes 1908From Pikes 1908

Post Office Directory 1913From the Post Office Directory 1913

Deal library 1914Deal Library List 1914

Post Office Directory 1922From the Post Office Directory 1922

Post Office Directory 1938From the Post Office Directory 1938

Library archives 1974Library archives 1974

Deal Licensing RegisterDeal Licensing Register

The Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and RogersThe Old Pubs of Deal and Walmer by Glover and Rogers

 

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