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The Bay
(St. Margaret's-at-Cliffe)
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Above photo by permission of Coastguard says "Bowling Green, "Green
Man", St Margaret's Bay. |
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Green man circa 1900. The man standing in front of the window is
George Cramp landlord of the pub at the time. |
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Green man circa 1900. |
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Above date unknown. |
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Notice the seats by the side of the road which are half boats upended. |
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Green Man St Margaret's date unknown. After 1953. |
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Green Man St Margaret's date unknown. After 1953. |
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Above three pictures are of the Green Man St Margaret's. By kind
permission of the Coastguard. Date unknown. After 1953. |
Earliest reference found so far is in the Wingham Division Ale Licence list,
which shows the "Green Man," St Margaret's at Cliffe, although I am sure they
mean Bay, to be re-licensed for the sum of 8 shillings in
1740 indicating that the pub was present before 1740.
The occupant of the Green Man in 1782 was Stephen Peake although the 1740
directory spelled his name as Peke (much investigation into the Peake family by
the late John Peake is deposited in St Margaret's History Society archives.)
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From the Dover Telegraph and Cinque Ports General
Advertiser, Saturday 2 March, 1839. Price 5d.
MYSTERIOUS CIRCUMSTANCE
Considerable excitement was caused in the village of St. Margaret's
at Cliff, on Saturday last, by the body of a female being washed up on
shore. The attention of a person of the name of Kingsford was directed
to the object from the number of sea-gulls hovering over the beach, and
who on proceeding to the spot, discovered the body in question. It
appeared to be that of a female between 30 and 40 years of age; in a
complete state of nudity, with the exception of a pair of laced
boot-shoes and white yarn stockings; from the appearance of which, there
is no doubt that the deceased had moved in the most humble sphere of
life. She had also on her finger, a wedding ring and guard, but no marks
were discovered which might tend to identify the body. An inquest was
held at the "Green Man," on Monday, before Mr. Delassaux, Coroner for
the County; when the only evidence produce was that of Kingsford, who
found the body, John Arnold, who assisted in removing it to a shed, and
Mr. G. E. Rutley, Surgeon, of Dover, who, having viewed the body, stated
that there were no external marks of violence, and that the livid
appearance about the neck and breasts were, no doubt, the effect of
decomposition. The Coroner ten addressed the Jury and stated, that there
being no means of identifying the body, now any evidence of death having
occurred through violence, the usual verdict on such occasions was,
"Found dead," which was returned accordingly.
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Certainly not the same building as we see today, as the original was bombed by
"friendly fire" and had to be rebuilt in the 1950s and now renamed the "Coastguard."
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday, 9
July, 1937.
WINGHAM PETTY SESSIONS
The County Petty Sessions were held at Wingham on
Thursday, before Viscount Hawarden, Messrs. C. J. Burgess and W. G.
Chandler, and Miss Tower.
License Transfer Refused.
Mr. N. G. Goodwin, formerly of Margate, applied for the transfer
of the licence of the "Green Man," St. Margaret's By, from Mr. J. Davis.
The Chairman said that the Magistrates felt they would have to refuse
the application as the police testimonial of the applicant was not good
enough.
Mr. Gerald Hardman (Deal), later in the morning, said that he hoped
the magistrates would allow him to make an application, although they had
already dealt with the matter. He had just been instructed on the matter,
and felt that if the magistrates were to be convinced that the
circumstances were such that it would be a gross hardship to refuse the
application for a transfer they would not think it an improper thing to
do to grant the transfer. He could only tell them that the Police did not
oppose the application for the transfer, the Superintendent was not heard
on the matter at all. The magistrates had before them references and a
Police report which he had not seen. His instructions were that the
present tenant of the "Green Man" was very ill, and the position was a
very difficult one for the persons concerned. Mr. Goodwin had first class
references from Messrs. Cobb, brewers, of Margate, and Messrs. Thompson,
brewers, of Walmer, who were satisfied with the references he produced.
He did not think those two firms of brewers were firms who would take
tenants without a very careful enquiry.
Mr. Phillips, Valuer, Canterbury, said that the present tenant had to
be removed to a nursing home. He had known Mr. Goodwin for about eighteen
months when he (Mr. Goodwin) applied to him for a licence. The brewers
said they were sorry to part with his services. Mr. Goodwin's references
at Margate were satisfactory, and his application there was granted. He
had been intimately associated with Mr. Goodwin for a year, and at
Margate he ran his premises very well, and they were spotlessly clean.
Mr. Hardman (who had been handed the report fro the police at East
Suffolk) observed that it stated that Mr. Goodwin was "a man of fairly
sober habits." It also stated that he did not conduct the "Anchor" and
the "Crown" Hotel too satisfactorily.
Mr. Phillips said that had he any knowledge that Mr. Goodwin was
anything but sober he would not have submitted his name to the brewers.
According to the references he received, Mr. Goodwin was a thoroughly
honest, sober and industrious man.
Mr. Goodwin said that before coming south he held licences at
Lowestoft. On two occasions he as warned for having customers on his
premises after hours, but was never summoned. On one occasion it was a
public house used by fisherman, and it was difficult to get them away at
times, and the other was at a commercial hotel, and travellers staying
there had friends in.
Mr. Hardman submitted that the Police report was only an expression of
opinion, and it might be wrong.
Mr. Burgess said that it was an outstanding Police report. All Police
reports he had read had been absolutely fair.
The Chairman, after the Magistrates had retired to consider the
application, said that it had been decided not to grant a temporary
transfer that day, but to make further enquiries from the Police first,
to see what they meant. The full transfer would come before the Court at
Dover next week.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 16
July, 1937.
WINGHAM PETTY SESSIONS
"Green Man," St. Margaret's.
The adjourned application for the transfer of the licence of the
"Green Man," St. Margaret's, from John Davis to Gerald Nettleton
Goodwin, came before the Justices for further consideration.
Mr. J. H. Mowll, appearing for the brewers, said his client had
decided to go no further with that application and asked for the
temporary transfer to Mr. Dredge, Manager Messrs. Thompson, Brewes. The
present licensee, Mr. Davis, was very ill indeed and asked that he might
be excused attendance at any further transfer there might be.
The Magistrates granted a temporary transfer of the licence to Mr.
Dredge.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 26
June, 1953.
RE-BUILDING THE "GREEN MAN"
Rural Council Dislike the Design
FURTHER progress in the re-development of St. Margaret's Bay from its
war and gale-damaged condition is foreshadowed by the proposal of the
brewers, Messrs. Thompson and Son, Ltd., to rebuild the "Green Man."
But Dover Rural Council, whose coast protection works at the Bay have
just been completed, do not like the design which the brewers have
submitted.
A report before the Council at their monthly meeting recommended
that, under the building by-laws, the plans submitted should have
approved for five years only as the materials proposed to be used
included short-lived materials.
On planning grounds, the final decision lies with the County Planning
Department, and the Rural Council decided to inform that department that
they object to the present design and suggest that they should be given
power to approach the brewers direct with a view to obtaining a more
satisfactory design.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News, Friday 5
March, 1954.
RE-BUILDING THE "GREEN MAN"
Above shows a view of the work in progress this week
Hopes that the "Green Man," St. Margaret's Bay, would be rebuilt and
ready in time to welcome visitors by Easter received a set-back during
the recent unusually cold spell when brick-laying was stopped. Despite
this, work of digging foundation trenches and clearing away excessive
rubble went on and Messrs. Jenners, of Dover the firm of builders who
are doing the work for Messrs. Charrington's, the brewers, hope that it
will not be very long after Easter before the premises are ready.
The building was transformed from a quaint 600-year-old inn to a
state of chaotic rubble during the war when it was used as part of a
Commando course. If, when these soldiers put their training into
practice against the enemy, it was half as efficient as it was to that
homely little pub at the Bay, then they more than played their part in
the winning of the war.
Claims that the building is 600 years old and that the building was
shattered by Commandos during the manoeuvres and not by enemy action
have been backed up by discoveries made in the cellar which extends back
into the face of the cliff at the rear of the building. Here we found
several old coins dating back to 1378, a practice grenade, which was
taken into custody by the local policeman, several rounds of both used
and blank ammunition and some typical "British Tommy" phrases written on
the walls.
Before the war the building had a frontage of some forty yards from
which teas were served to visitors. This forefront will now be replaced
by a car park for customers, with open tearooms both on a veranda in
front of the building, on the ground floor, and on a specially prepared
flat roof above the main building.
A lot has been done to restore as far as possible the flint facings
on the wall. The builders even have hopes of retaining two drunken
looking chimney stacks to gibe the premises a kind of antique look
despite the fact that a lot of modern materials have had to be used.
The northern end of the building will be two-storey, with living
accommodation for the licensee.
Bay windows will give diners a clear view of the Straits and, with
the new sea wall and the recently-erected groynes holding back the
shingle, bathing at St. Margaret's Bay should, in future, be popular.
The license of the "Green Man" has been held in abeyance for some
thirteen or fourteen years and the premises' re-opening will be the
first sign of permanent business returning to this once popular bay.
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From the Dover Express and East Kent News. 26 April, 1963.
"Green Man" Raided.
A thief forced his way through the cellar flap of the Green Man
public house in the Bay on Thursday night last week and stole £10 in
cash. He ignored the stock.
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Still the Green Man in 1965 according to Kelly's directory of 1965, this pub
was later re-named the "Coastguard".
This is the closest pub to France a mere 20 miles away being situated just off
the beach at St Margaret's Bay.
In was in the Bay that the Channel Tunnel Co began the first test boring in
1865. The bore discovered coal and the Channel tunnel project was pigeon-holed.
LICENSEE LIST
PEAKE Stephen 1740-82+

DREW Stephen 1858+

CRAMP George 1861-1900
        
BERRY George Henry 1900-Nov/21+
    
WELLARD William Alfred Nov/1921-24+
 
DAVIS Mr J 1930-Sept/37
  
GRAY Mr C W Sept/1937-Mar/1939+
  
COLSON Mr R H Mar/1939+

HAWKINS George A 1957-60

George Berry was also captain of the St, Margaret's Fire Brigade
From Wingham Division Ale Licences 1740 Ref: KAO - QRLV 3/1
From Melville's Directory 1858
From the Post Office Directory 1874
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1889
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1890
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1891
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1895
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1896-97
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1898
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1899
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1899-1900
From the Post Office Directory 1913
From the Post Office Directory 1914
From the Post Office Directory 1918
From the Post Office Directory 1922
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1924
From the Post Office Directory 1930
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1932-33
From the Post Office Directory 1938
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1938-39
From the Dover Express
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