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Published 24 May 2001

 

 

Riddle no more
REMEMBER the picture below of an old Folkestone charabanc, which featured in Memories a few weeks ago? I asked if any reader could identify where it was taken and received an e-mail message from Peter Bamford, of Shorncliffe Crescent, Folkestone, to tell me it was taken in Cheriton.

I was shown a copy of the picture by author Roy Humphreys, of Hawkinge, who was lent some interesting old postcards of Wills "Pullman" cars, as they were known, by Peter Wills. He is a descendant of the once well known Cheriton charabanc proprietor, 'Father' Ernest Wills.

The charabanc was built at the Maltby Motors' workshops in Sandgate and first registered in 1912.
Peter Bamford, who is secretary of Folkestone & District Local History Society, writes: "The photograph of the charabanc outing was taken on the main road outside Cheriton Baptist Church.

"I have the same photo in my collection and I would say it was a Men's Bible Class outing.

"The houses that can be seen in the background of the picture are those in Surrenden Road and the fenced area is now made up of shops but, in those days, was known as the Ashley Grange sports ground.

"To the right can be seen the original wall of the church grounds. It was given up later to allow a pavement to be laid."

Peter goes on to say that the Church itself was opened in July 1908 by Mrs Lloyd George. Earlier a corrugated building had been used for worship, from 1901 and was later used as a church hall, before being demolished sometime in the 1950s.

Among his other pictures Peter says he has a similar postcard dated 1912, of another Wills charabanc, with the registration number FN 517.

And Peter is still hoping to find out more about the occasion when a big lineup of about a dozen
Cheriton Baptist Church, around the 1910-20 period, for what was obviously a major church event.

Peter's postcard picture of the busy scene was featured in Memories back in December. To remember the event, of course, you would have to be getting on for around 100 years old but perhaps there is a picture of the event in someone's family album somewhere, with some kind of caption. You never know!

Incidentally the reference to charabancs being built in Sandgate reminds me that I
1882 to change the name of the main street, which was extremely narrow in one spot, back from "Broadway" to High Street.

It had been given the name Broadway back in 1871 and, in some of the old photographs of Sandgate, one certainly gets the impression of a broad sweep of road in the centre.

But the High Street certainly narrowed considerably at either end of the town.

Anyway, back in 1882 the town council was unanimous in voting to revert back to "High Street."
DAVE Brycason, of Tontine Street, Folkestone, who is keenly interested in any memorabilia concerning the Titanic disaster, has been researching the subject for a long time and is hoping I will come across something to help him while combing the 1901 Herald file for items for the "From Our Files" feature.

Dave is trying to find out more about the early life of Elizabeth Nye (nee Ramell), born in 1882, who was a survivor of the sinking of the Titanic. The Herald, in May 1912 referred to the drowning of Elizabeth's sweetheart off a Folkestone pier, butjjias been unable to find any
THIS former Cheriton based charabanc in the fleet of the late Ernest Valentine Wills, who lived in Cheriton, featured among a collection of photographs shown to me by Roy Humphreys, of Hawkinge. Some of them have already been featured in Memories, and like those, this postcard picture is owned by Peter Wills, of Cheriton, a descendant of the popular coach proprietor. The charabanc group is pictured outside the Prince of Wales public house in Guildhall Street, Folkestone, of the old coaches assembled outside the was reading recently of proposals back in
 

"White elephant at Hythe gets new management

*1 QH1 WILLIAM R Cobay, credited with hav-ing brought the Metropole to the Leas, took over the lease of Hythe's “white elephant" — the Seabrook Hotel (later called Imperial} built by the South Eastern Railway Company. The hotel had proved ahead of its time. It didn't attract quite the numbers of visitors by rail as expected^ development and attractions of Hythe being slower to materialise than Hythe MP Sir Edward Watkin and his fellow directors had anticipated. It had been hoped that the Gordon Hotels group would take over the property, but negotiations fell through. Alterations planned by the new bosses were to include numerous passenger lifts and other improvements and close links were to be maintained with the Hythe Golf Club. Earl Radnor was adding another attraction at Folkestone, laying out a drive from the Upper Sandgate Road along the base of the Plain and under the old Sandgate Lift bridge into the lower road which, said Felix would prove a boon to invalids and the elderly because it was so sheltered from the keen north and easterly winds.
 
Death railway survivor in Leas stage manager role

*1 QC1 CYRIL Ernest Dixon, who was a PoW X90X in Japanese camps and slaved and sweated with thousands of others on the notorious Railway of Death, was the subject of a feature in the Herald about his work as Stage Manager at the once highly popular town landmark, the Pleasure Gardens Theatre. The town bade farewell to Alfred John English, for over 30 years MD of the town's Folkestone Express newspaper^ who died aged 84. The paper folded after its works and offices were destroyed in 1940 when a long-range shell crashed into the World’s Stores, in High Street and fire gutted adjoining buildings. The paper was founded by his father John English. Alfred, a mason and golf enthusiast, became the MD In 1906 in succession to his elder brother Tom English. One of the “Glorious Glosters" Pte Reg Knowles, 29, was reported missing In Korea. Two new Folkestone Rowing Club boats ^Freddie Reich,” named after a local man who was a great club supporter over many years, and “Bob Baker” named after the club secretary of 21 years, Mr R.J. Baker, were christened at the club headquarters at Sandgate where members were celebrating a first class season in their 99th year.

 
Soldiers help firemen fight fire, saving horses in stable

1QOA HYTHE firemen manning their steam fire engine fought a blaze which destroyed a car, a taxi and a motorcycle combination in an outbuilding at the Dukes Head Inn on the Dymchurch Road on a Sunday morning. Water had to be pumped from Hythe Canal. King's Own Royal Regt soldiers camping on the Green freed seven horses in adjoining stables as a violent gale fanned flames. The outbuilding belonging to Mackesons, the brewers, was completely gutted. Mr H Spencer Apps, MD of Martin Walter Ltd garages, was made Transport Officer for the district during the General Strike of 1926 and afterwards told how his organisation had, in a typical day, loaded up 30 lorries with pork, vegetables and other foods, the consignments being escorted by police to their various destinations. He went on to talk of “The spirit of patriotism displayed by many people ... evidenced by the splendid fleet of motor cars which the owners place at my disposal for dispatch of mails to Dover, Canterbury, New Romney and district day after day - and theyfind their own petrol into the bargains Young men too, willingly lent their motorcycles, free of charge, for carrying dispatches and other work, he said.
 
Give pets identity discs - or risk losing them - warning

4 Q7C^ theatre and capacity audience came JLtJ IO back to the Leas Pavilion after an interval 25 years ago in what promised to be a successful season of drama. Howard Theatre Productions presented the comedy “The Grass is Greener” to launch the 1976 season, the first of programme of 20 productions. Local pet owners received a shock warning that stray animals caught in the port area could be put down because of the threat of rabies. One dog, which had no identity disc, was found straying in the harbour and might have been killed, had the owner not come forward, just in time. A Folkestone man and a woman visitor were praised by Police after they saved a woman from drowning. The 50 year old woman from London had been staying in Sandgate. There was a feather in the cap for local craftsman Tony Lambert, a french polisher, when striking replicas of the Crown jewels he made were sent to America for its Bicentenary celebrations. They went on show at Dunhill's offices in New York, a director of which was Michael Walter, son of Max Walter and Mrs Walter, of Cheriton Road. The most expensive school never to be built In the town was causing red faces among KCC officials. The abortive project for a new school at Enbrook Road on the Golden Valley estate was thought to have cost 100,000. Work started despite warnings the land was unstable, but was soon abandoned.

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