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13-14 Queen Street
The Cause is Altered, date unknown. |
Above photo of the Cause is Altered, date unknown. |
From the Dover Express 28 March 1969.
It was once a smugglers' haunt
SAD night on Saturday. Not only were they closing down another Dover pub
but it was the closure of the town's oldest pub. I managed to get in
among the drinkers at the ancient Cause is Altered in Queen Street as
the last pints were pulled. And it's not only those who enjoy a pint who
were sad to see this pub close down ready for the demolition men who
will be making way for a new road.
Take Miss Olive Rookwood, the former
teacher at the boys' county school, who now lives at the nearby Battle
of Britain Homes. She's no drinker but it made her sad this week to know
that yet another old pub had closed.
"It's very, very sad to see these places of historic interest being
pulled down. It's really dreadful. And they call it progress," she
lamented at her flat.
The date of this now closed hostelry is hard to fix. But there seems no
doubt that it was the oldest in town and was probably welcoming
customers three hundred years ago.
Like many of these old places the building is surrounded by legend and
gossip. They say it used to be the haunt of smugglers and when the
licensee Mr. Bourne in the nineteenth century decided to change the
house for
the better he also altered the name to The Cause is Altered.
For years I
was under the impression that the clock face on the ceiling of the
public bar, complete with ancient numerals, was a device to tip off
smugglers that the Excise men were about.
But no. Now I'm told by Mr.
Fred Simpson, of Markland Road - who works for Mackesons, the owners
- that the device was a primitive game of chance played by the customers.
Mackesons took The Cause is Altered over when they merged with Fremlins.
Queen Street won't seem the same again. I hope the stone set in the
wall commemorating Cow Gate will at least be saved and re-instated when
the authorities finally get round to building the York Street road.
Perhaps, despite the frenzy of the years ahead, passers by will have time
to stand and stare. And remember the pub. Perhaps.
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Above photo of the Cause is Altered side view circa 1970.
Taken from
Prince of Wales Sea Training School Society web site. |
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On the north side at the top of Queen street until it was needlessly
destroyed, as it turned out, to make way for the York Street dual
carriageway, stood an ancient inn, bearing the curious name "The Cause
is Altered." This house was just within Cowgate, and must have been
there long before that gate was removed. The name was in bold raised
letters over the door, and an old inhabitant told the author that he saw
that particular sign fixed there before he went to sea in the year 1826.
The sign of this house was originally "The Black Horse," and being
situate in a lonely spot on the walls, was a resort of smugglers, but
when Mr. Bourne took the house at the beginning of the nineteenth
century, he resolved to make a change for the better, and put up the new
sign "The Cause is altered."
Information taken from John Bavington-Jones' book "A Perambulation of
the Town, Port and Fortress of Dover", 1906. (Reprint in The South Kent
Gazette, October 31st, 1979.)
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The Cause is Altered public house (pictured right) at the top of Queen
Street, was demolished in June 1971 to make way for the York street dual
carriageway. Because it was one of Dover's few surviving ancient
buildings and probably the oldest in domestic occupation, there was a
campaign to save it or preserve a remnant - such as a plaque on the
corner which recorded that "Here stood Cow Gate, taken down by order of
the Corporation, 1776." Next door was St. Mary's Infants' School which
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Known previously as the "Blacksmith's Arms" and later as the "Carpenter's
Arms", it was the property of Mackeson at the close.
On the corner with Princes Street, it was licensed prior to 1826 and was
said at the end to be at least three hundred years old. It was reputedly
part of the local smuggling chain at one time and an underground tunnel was
said to connect it with at least one other pub in that connection.
It stood just inside the town wall at Cow Gate and a stone in the wall of
the pub informed the public that the gate was removed in 1776.
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Various theories have been advanced concerning the name. Some thought it
was changed to appease Cromwell in 1649. Others suggested it marked its
end with the smuggling fraternity but perhaps more likely, the name
descended from "Cows and Halters". It is fairly certain that it was the
"Carpenter's Arms" in 1805 |
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Theories on the change of name.
From Country Life 14th August 1969.
SIR,-This inn, The Cause is Altered, on the slope of the hills
leading up to the Western Heights at Dover, is shortly to be demolished
to make room for the new roadway leading from the docks to the A.20. It
is believed to be Dover's oldest inn, and much speculation surrounds its
unusual name.
It is thought by some to have
originated from Restoration times, when Dover and east Kent generally,
having been very pro-Roundhead, suddenly found that the restored Charles
II was to land at Dover and make a triumphant journey through
the county. An opportunist landlord wished to make it quite clear that
he was now on the popular side. Could this be so; or are there other
inns of the same name with a quite different origin?
JOHN MANNERING, River House, River, Dover, Kent,
From The Dover Mercury 29 October 1998.
WE know the name of Dover hostelry the Cause is Altered was changed in
1826 because it had a bad reputation due to its links with smuggling. So
the new landlord, Mr Bourne, decided to give it-a new image.
I have a list of names of Inns from about 1792. We also know there was a
"Blacksmith Arms" in Queen Street in 1824. Mr Bavington Jones in his book
on Dover said he was told by a sailor that it was the Black Horse, but
there was already an Inn of that name where "The Eagle" now stands.
There has been a suggestion it was linked with the Cavaliers and
Roundheads, but the change would have needed to be much earlier.
I
discovered, however, there was a Cause is Altered in Ipswich which could
go back to the Civil War period.
When visiting that city, walking up a long road, I found the pub
which was a fairly modem building and they had changed the name to the
Case is Altered, with the sign showing a bewigged judge.
In the early 19th century there could have been a steady trade between
these two ports and this may have been a suggestion by a regular
seafaring customer.
Joe Harman.
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The last drinks were served on 22 March 1969. Some local groups would
have liked the walls left standing but the authorities decided in September
1972 that the whole must come down. |
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Nineteen-year-old Dixie Smith, daughter of the landlord, pulls a pint
... one of the last.
Dover's oldest
pub to close
DOVER'S oldest public house, the Cause is Altered in - Queen Street,
closes its doors for the last time on Monday night (21 March 1969). The building is
coming down to make way for the new York Street by-pass.
Once the haunt of smugglers the pub used to be The Black Horse but its
name was changed in the eighteenth century. Dover citizens and pressure
groups tried to save the pub but failed to persuade the planners. Now
licensee Mr. Don
Smith, who has been at the Cause is Altered for 14 months, is to take
another pub at Maidstone. It is hoped to save the ancient stone set in
the wall, marking Cowgate, and to reinstate it when York Street is
built. |
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The walls contained two plaques which may well have been preserved. It
was said at the time that the site was needed to house one end of a
pedestrian bridge and on that assumption the demolition was authorised by
Dover Corporation in March 1973; By August of 1991, as I retype this page
little of interest has yet materialised on the site.
Above the Cause is Altered almost down 1972.
Taken from
Prince of Wales Sea Training School Society web site. |
Site of The Cause is Altered in 1973. |
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From the Dover Express 9th February 1973.
Ancient link with past not worth preserving - say residents
GET rid of them. That's what local people are saying about the remains
of the Cause is Altered public house by the side of the York Street
trunk road. But there are plans to preserve the walls, and to grass the
surrounding area so that people can sit there.
"It will become a public convenience for hitch-hikers," said Mr. George
Austin, of the Battle of Britain Homes which stand next to the site.
Putting seats there and grassing the area over will simply be an
invitation to them to spend the night there, or use it as a toilet."
Mrs. Bessie O'Connor, who also lives in one of the flats there, thinks
the land could be better used by making a pathway down to the new road.
"At the moment, all us old
people from these flats have to walk around that site, and then down on
to the road.
"It might not be very far if you're young and fit, but when
you can't walk very far anyway, it's almost impossible."
Her husband,
Mr. Frank O'Connor, is unable to make
the journey.
"It would be much better to have a path leading down there on to the
pavement. Who wants to remember an old pub anyway? I can't
stand the places."
Folkestone Road resident Mr. Herbert Jackson, said he wouldn't mind
the walls being preserved if they were original.
"But they're not," he said. "They've been patched up a couple of times,
and there's even some brick work in them, so they're not exactly old."
Mrs. O'Connor suggested that if they wanted to mark the spot where the
Cow Gate once stood - as a plaque in the pub wall used to do - they should
include that on a gate there.
Meanwhile, the subject is likely to be raised again at the next Works
Committee meeting of the council.
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LICENSEE LIST
WATTS Andrew 1832-39+
 
BOURNE John 1840

BOURNE Mrs Mary Ann 1847-67 end
 
FLETCHER 1867
PREBBLE Thomas William Philpot 1867-74

PREBBLE Mrs Susannah 1882-91
 
PREBBLE Miss Ellen 1895-99
 
PREBBLE Mrs Grace Ellen 1901
BOURNE Richard Reeve 1903-14
  
NORRIS Albert George 1914-26 end
  
BALLARD Albert Thomas 1926-32 end

HARPER Alfred Harold 1932-40 end
 
MARSH F. S. R. 1943-49 end
KNOTT Herbert Stephen William 1949-52 dec'd

KNOTT Mrs Rosina 1952-53+

JONES Mrs. A. 1956-63 dec'd

SMITH David 1959-68 end
SMITH Donald G. 1968-69 end
From the Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34
From the Pigot's Directory 1839
From the Pigot's Directory 1840
From Bagshaw Directory 1847
From Melville's Directory 1858
From the Post Office Directory 1874
From the Post Office Directory 1882
From the Post Office Directory 1891
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1895
From the Kelley's Directory 1899
From the Post Office Directory 1903
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1909
From the Post Office Directory 1913
From the Post Office Directory 1922
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1923
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1924
From the Post Office Directory 1930
From Pikes Dover Blue Book 1932-33
From the Post Office Directory 1938
From the Kelley's Directory 1950
From the Kelley's Directory 1953
From the Kelley's Directory 1956
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