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Earliest 1962- (Name from)

Bun Penny

Closed 2011

Central Parade/William Street

Herne Bay

https://whatpub.com/upper-red-lion

Bun Penny 2009

Above photo 2009 by David Anstiss Creative Commons Licence.

Bun Penny

Above photo, date unknown, kindly sent by Garth Wyver.

Bun Penny 2010

Above photo 2010 by David Anstiss Creative Commons Licence.

Bun Penny sign 1991Bun Penny sign 1992

Above sign left, August 1991, sign right, August 1992.

With thanks from Brian Curtis www.innsignsociety.com.

Bun Penny signBun Penny sign

Above sign left date unknown. Sign right 2010.

Bun Penny 2011

Above photo April 2011, kindly supplied by Doug Pratt.

Bun Penny 2011

Above photo April 2011, kindly supplied by Doug Pratt.

 

From the http://www.kentonline.co.uk 1 September 2011.

Herne Bay pub Bun Penny destroyed in fire

The Bun Penny pub in Central Parade, Herne Bay after the fire

A popular Herne Bay pub has gone up in flames.

A fire broke out at the Bun Penny in Central Parade at 1am on Thursday.

Firefighters from the town, Whitstable and Canterbury were sent to help tackle the flames.

The building was well alight when around 20 firefighters arrived and flames had spread to both floors and the roof. It took almost three hours to bring the blaze under control.

Crews had to fight the flames from outside due to the dangerous nature of the building.

Dylan Tuck, Herne Bay crew manager, said: "It was too dangerous for crews to go inside the pub.

"It was completely gutted and the roof eventually fell in."

No one was injured and the pub was unoccupied at the time.

Kent Police said an accelerant was used to start the fire and appealed for information.

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From the http://www.canterburytimes.co.uk 18 March 2014 By L.Crudgington.

Burned out Bun Penny: Two proposals now put forward

Bun Penny 2014

The owners of the derelict Bun Penny have put forward a scheme for it to be brought back into use.

AFTER waiting years for action on the burnt-out Bun Penny, two proposals are now being considered for its future.

Councillors were told tonight (Tuesday) that the owners of the former pub on Herne Bay seafront have submitted pre-application documents with details of a scheme they hope will bring the building back into use.

And at the same meeting of Herne Bay area members panel, Mike Greenwood of the newly formed Herne Bay Free School association, said he could use the building for the community.

Mr Greenwood, warden of the Free School, said: “It is a town heritage site and it does hit you in the eye.

“If there is no current proposal for bringing it back into use for the town, not as a Tesco or a Next shop but for community benefit for societies and groups to use, I would be prepared to submit a draft outline proposal.

“I would think a quarter of a million pounds would be a ball park figure to bring it back into serviceable use.”

He said the scheme could be funded with lottery grants and that it could be managed by the Herne Bay Free School.

Mr Greenwood added: “We would use it as an activities and service delivery centre.

“If there is something already on the table I will take not one, five, not 10 but 20 steps backwards. We are not rivals. We have no interest in competing.”

Councillors were also presented with a 1000-signature petition from Nigel Hancock of the Bay Independent Retailers Group calling for urgent action to be taken on the eyesore building.

He said: “It has blighted the town for 30 months and during this time there has been rumour, counter-rumour, misinformation and information.

“It is one of the top three complaints of members of the group because it is the first thing coach passengers see when they arrive in Herne Bay.”

Council regeneration manager Patrick Rynne said it had taken so long for any action to be taken because the building was privately owned and the council's powers were limited.

He said: “The owners were in touch with us very actively until 12 or 14 months ago when they were in dispute with their insurers who have said, for whatever reason, they can't settle the claim.

“The owners said they could not do anything but members asked me to find out what can be done.

“We have now been in touch with the owners and talking with them and the owners have put in a pre application today for a scheme they want to do.”

The news was welcomed by councillors, who said the site was a key link between the seafront and the town.

West Bay councillor Peter Lee said: “I think it is important we retain some sort of commercial use such as a pub or a restaurant.

“I don't want to see another faceless block of flats. That will not be of any benefit to Herne Bay's seafront.”

The panel vowed to monitor progress with regular reports to their meetings.

No further details of the owners' plans for the Bun Penny were revealed, and they did not respond to requests for a comment.

 

From the http://hernebaymatters.com 6 June 2014.

Bun Penny pub sold for development

The burnt out Bun Penny could soon rise from the ashes after it was sold for redevelopment. The derelict building - one of the town's most complained about eyesores since it was gutted by fire in September 2011 - was under offer last month and the sale has now been formally completed.

Estate agent Peter Goodwin, from Wilbee and Son, handled the deal and said it was the start of a new era for the building. He said: “The new owners are local but they do not want to be named for the moment. But they are very pleased it is now completed and they are hoping it will not be too long before work can start.”

New hoardings are due to go up on the site, on the corner of William Street and Central Parade, on Wednesday and a planning application has been prepared. The proposed scheme would see the former pub demolished and a new building in its place, with luxury flats on the upper floors. Mr Goodwin said: “The idea is to have commercial on the ground floor, ideally a family restaurant. That is what the new owners will be targeting and I think it is something that Herne Bay needs. The council have been very supportive and everyone is now hoping they will be able to rubber stamp the application so it can go through quickly.”

The site has attracted complaints since it was first burnt out, and councillors have insisted since July 2012 that it was “a priority”. Business leader Nigel Hancock, of the Bay Independent Retail Group, set up a petition calling on Canterbury City Council to tidy up the site and officials were discussing taking action to force the owners to act. Mr Goodwin said: “The owners have been very helpful in making sure the sale goes through smoothly and they pleased it is all finalised now. It has taken a lot of work and a lot of negotiations and I want to formally thank the old owners and the council for their help and support. Everyone is keen for the site to be brought back into use and we are all now hoping the council will feel able to continue to support this so work can start soon.”

 

Opened in 1899 when the pub was then called the "Royal Hotel," it changed name to the "Bun Penny" around 1962 and closed in 2011.

 

From http://www.ghostpubs.com accessed 17 June 2015.

HAUNTED.

And that is all that this web site says about the pub.

 

From http://www.kentonline.co.uk, by Aidan Barlow, 04 May 2015

Dismay as plans to redevelop the derelict former Bun Penny pub are delayed by changes to government regulations.

The seafront is set to be blighted by the burnt-out shell of the "Bun Penny" for another summer because of council red tape.

Plans for new flats and a restaurant were unveiled in January by businessman Dean Tevfik and architects from Ian Barber and Associates.

Their plans would require the demolition of the wrecked pub, which was gutted by fire in September 2011 and has been derelict since.

The Bun Penny has been purchased by businessman Dean Tevfik.

Officers from Canterbury City Council set a determination date for Mr Tevfik’s plans for the end of March, but the decision has been delayed until June.

Campaigner Vince McMahan believes Canterbury City Council’s planning officers are being too cautious, and putting tourism at risk.

He said: “The developers have made arrangements for the demolition so that they have a blank canvas to work with.

“The old pub has to come down, and it’s better to come down now than at the height of the season.

“The delay in the determination could mean it is July or August before it can be demolished.

“It could result in great big lorries running the demolition materials along the seafront in the height of summer. You don’t get businessmen like Dean and Ernie Tevfik coming along every day who are prepared to put money into the town to redevelop an eyesore.

“The council shouldn’t be messing developers around.”

The derelict shell has prompted campaigns from local businesses calling on the council to take urgent action to bring in new investment.

Business guru Nigel Hancock previously launched a petition to address the problem, and Shad restaurant boss Raj Miah, whose restaurant is opposite, said it was the number one concern for the town.

Bon Penny new building

How the new building on the site could look. Pic from Ian Barber & Associates.

Architect Ian Barber said the site would be part of the regeneration of the seafront.

City Council spokesman Robert Davies says demolition can only begin on the site if planning permission is granted, as it is a locally- listed building.

He added: “There has been a delay in determining the application due to changes at national government level regarding contributions from developers.

“As a result we have to review projects so that any money collected is targeted towards ensuring they comply with the new regulations.”

 

Bun Penny location 2016

Above Google image, August 2016.

 

The What Pub web site suggests that this is now a Free House but as of 1 Jan 2019 it is not yet open. Further information says flats have now been built on the site with the possibility of a coffee house being part of the building.

 

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