63 Clarence Street (Union Street ) (Star Street 1853)

Gravesend

Above photo, post 1925. Kindly supplied by John Hopperton.

In 1869-70 the pub was part of a consortium who were advertising their goods of selling tea in response to grocers' selling beer and wine. (Click for further details.)

The pub was rebuilt in 1925, closed in 1966 and demolished around about 1973. Although John Hoperton says the pub was rebuilt in 1925 and the two photos above show two distinctively different looking buildings, Michael Norman is queering whether they are actually of the same place and says the following:- "The pre-1925 one bears the Truman's regalia, but I don't think Truman's had a presence in the town until 1930 when they took over Russell's. Also the post-1925 building looks as if it could be 19th century, although I'm no expert. The 'shape' of the later pub matches the information on my 1865 OS map of Gravesend. So I wonder if the earlier building might be a case of mistaken identity." Unfortunately I no longer have John Hopperton's email, so if anyone has the answer to the above, or his email, please let me know.

The original pub was situated next door to the "Jolly Sailor."

Above plaque says the following:- TOWN CENTRE DWELLINGS. On the site of this car park once stood approximately 200 residential dwellings, public houses, places of worship and schools dating from the mid 19th century. The area was cleared in the mid 1960s as part of the town centre redevelopment. This footpath follows the original line of Clarence Street and listed below are landmarks taken from an OS map dated 1865. North Street, South Street, Peppercroft Street, Upper Milton British School. Zion Chapel. Milton hall, "Kings Arms Ph," "Prince Regent PH," "Victory PH," "Jolly Sailor PH," and the "Star Hotel." Car park refurbishment funded by Gravesham Borough Council and Department for Communities and Local Government. Above photo showing the area today (2013.) Windmill Hill is in the background.

Above map 1863 showing the "Jolly Sailor" pink, "Victory" blue.

Project 2014 has been started to try and identify all the pubs that are and have ever been open in Kent. I have just started to map out the pubs that exist or existed in Gravesend, but need local knowledge and photographs, old and current if you have any.

As the information is found or sent to me, including photographs, it will be shown here.

Thanks for your co-operation. Every email is answered and all information referenced to the supplier.

This page will be updated as soon as further information is found.

LICENSEE LIST

GARDNER Richard 1832-39+

PHILLIPS William 1840-47+

CREED Francis Henry 1853-55+

WILSON Sergeant 1858+

WILSON L Argent 1861+ (age 42 in 1861)

TYLER W 1862+

YONWIN Charles 1865+

ROBINSON P 1869-70+

ALLEN John 1874+

FOLKMAN William Thomas 1878+

PAY Charles 1881-82+ (age 52 in 1881)

BLAKE Henry 1891+

CURLE John Alfred 1903-13+ (age 55 in 1911)

SARGENT William 1922+

PRIDMORE Ernie & Pearl pre 1950s

https://pubwiki.co.uk/Victory.shtml

http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/victory.html

From the Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34

From the Kelly's Directory 1903

Census