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PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest 1806-

Red Lion

Latest 1986+

(Name to)

15 The Street

Appledore

Red Lion 1900

Above photo circa 1900, kindly sent by Karl Neve.

Red Lion 1934

Above postcard, circa 1934, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Red Lion 1950

Above postcard, circa 1950, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Red Lion

Above postcard, date unknown, from Chris Cleave.

Red Lion 1956

Above postcard, 1956, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Red Lion 1958

Above postcard, circa 1958. Kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Red Lion 1958

Above postcard, circa 1958. Kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Red Lion bar 1958

Above postcard circa 1958, kindly sent by Rory Kehoe. From "Famous Old Inns of East Kent" the pub's description runs thus. "...This is not an old inn but its interior is mellowed and comfortable, with a very congenial atmosphere. The Church next door is reputed to be built on the site of an ancient fort, demolished by the French in 1380. This fort was probably built by the Danes, who at the time of King Alfred, sailed up the Rother, captured the village and entrenched themselves there." Telephone: Appledore 206.

Red Lion 1959

Above postcard, circa 1959. Kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Red Lion 1963

Above postcard, circa 1963. Kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

Red Lion beer mat

Above beermat, circa 1969, kindly sent by Mike L.

 

Around 1986 the pub name apparently changed colour to the "Black Lion." I believe this happed so not to get confused with the "Red Lion" in nearby Snargate.

 

Kentish Gazette, 2 December, 1806.

Red Lion Inn, Appledore.

Wm PACKHAM BEGS leave to inform the Public in general, he has lately fitted up the house called the "Red Lion Inn," conveniently for travellers, with good beds and stabling, wines &c. of the best quality; and by due attention and moderate charges, he hopes to merit the favours of his friends.

N. B. On Monday 22nd of December, 1806, will be his house-warming.

Dinner on table at one o’clock.

Appledore, 27th Nov. 1806.

 

Kentish Weekly Post or Canterbury Journal 4 August 1807.

STOLEN OR STRAYED.

From the Parish of Stone, in the Isle of Oxney, on Sunday night, the 26th July, 1807, or early Monday morning.

A Black Mare, aged, fourteen hands high, black mane and tail, two white feet behind, rather lap eared, tail cut.

If strayed, a reward of Half-a-Guines will be given, by giving information, so that she may be had again, to Mr. W. Packham, "Red Lion Inn," Appledore, or Mr. J. Watts, "Red Lion Inn," Hythe.

And, if stolen, a reward of Five Guineas, on conviction of the offender or offenders, by apply as above.

 

Western Times 28 November 1840.

MARRIAGE.

Nov. 12, at Northam, Mr. John Fisher, blockmaker, to Mrs. Fishwick, widow, of the "Red Lion," both of Appledore.

(I have just been informed that the above article relates to Appledore in Devon. But are leaving it here should the same mistake be made again. Paul Skelton.)

 

Southeastern Gazette, 8 March 1853.

CRANBROOK. Petty Sessions, Thursday.

(Before C. T. Pattenson, Esq., chairman, the Rev. F. Barrow, T. L. Hodges, W. P. Croughton, M. Tweedie, J. C. Schrieber, and G. R. Stevenson, Esqrs.)

The "Red Lion," Appledore, from Mr. Thos. Riddles to Mr. J. L. Overy.

 

Southeastern Gazette, 16 August 1853.

CRANBROOK. Forgery.

On Saturday last, a man named John Darnall was brought before the Rev. F. Barrow, on suspicion of having uttered two Bank of England notes. It appears that the prisoner, who is a travelling horse-dealer, attended Appledore fair on the 27th June last, and at about three o’clock in the afternoon he entered the "Red Lion Inn," kept by Mr. Overy, and asked him to cash a 10 note, at the same time shewing several other notes, which had the effect of inducing Mr. Overy to comply with his request. At about seven o’clock the same evening the prisoner went again to Mr. Overy, and obtained change for a 5 note, and on the prisoner leaving the house on this occasion Mr. Overy asked a man named Johnson, who was standing by, what the prisoner’s name was, and on being told he thereupon wrote the name of John Darnall on the back of both notes, but on sending them to the Rye bank it was discovered they were forged.

The prisoner was apprehended by Mr. Superintendent Rigg at Crittenden, on Friday evening last, where he was found at a public-house, and was selected by the superintendent from among about twenty of his companions, but as the circumstances under which the superintendent entered the house afforded the prisoner ample opportunity to part with any thing he might have had, of course nothing was found upon him.

As the witnesses, who live at a distance of about fifteen miles, could not attend, the prisoner was remanded until Tuesday next.

 

Southeastern Gazette, 23 August 1853.

CRANBROOK.

Charge op Uttering Forged Notes.

On Tuesday last, at the magistrates’ clerk’s office, before the Rev. F. Barrow, a cattle jobber named John Darnall, of Wadhurst, Sussex, was charged with having uttered two forged Bank of England notes for 10 and 5 to Mr. John Luck Overy, landlord of the "Red Lion Inn," at Appledore. The transaction which formed the ground of this accusation took place at Appledore fair on the 27th June last. The facts of the case will be best gathered from the evidence adduced before the Bench against the prisoner.

Mr. J. L. Overy stated that on Monday, the 27th June, between two and three o’clock in the afternoon, the prisoner went into his house and asked him to change a 10 note, which was done. The note produced was that changed. Witness observed the signature and the date, and placed the note in his pocket. He had no other Bank of England note at the time in his possession. About seven o’clock in the evening of the same day the prisoner went again to his house, and asked change for a 5 note, when, as witness had not sufficient change, he sent out for it, and afterwards gave the prisoner five sovereigns for the note. That produced was the same. He compared it with the 10 note previously changed, and observed that the dates were the same, as were also the signatures. He then placed both notes in his purse, and at night deposited them both in his cash-box. Witness had no other 5 note in his possession that day. Prisoner subsequently asked witness to change another 5 note, which he placed on the bar, saying that he would take two sovereigns then and the remainder in the morning, but Mr. Overy declined to change it for him. On handing the note from several prisoner had in his hand, one of the notes blew away down the passage, when witness said to the prisoner, "You don't seem very careful about your money; there’s one just blown down." Some person picked it up and gave it to him. The notes which had been placed in witness’s cash-box remained there until the 23rd, of July last, and in the interval he had no other note in his possession. On the 23rd July he gave the notes to his brother, to pay into the Rye bank, and the same evening they were returned, the bank declining to receive them. On the 3rd August instant the prisoner called again at the "Red Lion," when witness, seeing him in the tap-room by himself, immediately said, "You’re the man I’ve been wanting to find some time." Mr. Springett, a saddler, living opposite, was then called in to hear what passed, and witness tendered the notes to the prisoner, saying "You’re the man I took these notes of last Appledore fair. They are supposed to be bad, and I wish you to cash them again." The prisoner replied, "you’re mistaken, you didn’t take them of me; I hadn’t a note in my possession during the fair." He also said that he bought a horse of Mr. Cox and borrowed the money of his brother-in-law to pay for it. Witness asked him his name and told him that he should take back the notes. He spelt his name John Darnall, which was then written on the back of both the notes. Prisoner asked to look at the notes, but witness answered that as he had denied passing them, he shouldn’t look at them for 50. On the 5th August, Mr. Overy left the notes at the Rye bank, to be sent to the Bank of England, and on the 9th inst. received them back through the post, marked "Forged." On the 12th instant; the notes were given to Superintending-constable Rigg. Witness was quite positive prisoner was the same man who obtained change for the two notes. He had many opportunities of seeing the prisoner, both on the fair day and the day after.

On the application of the prisoner's legal adviser, the case was then remanded till Friday last, at twelve. o’clock.

Friday:— The prisoner was again brought up, and the following additional evidence was adduced. The prosecutor stated that on the 27th of June, when he changed the notes for the prisoner, he learned from a man named Johnson that the prisoner’s name was John Daniel, and he then wrote that name on a piece of paper and placed it on the top of the notes in his cash box. He subsequently ascertained that the prisoner’s correct name was John Darnall, and he therefore destroyed the paper on which he had written the name as Daniel. After the notes had been returned to him, by the Rye bank he went to the several markets and fairs in Kent and Sussex to endeavour to find the prisoner, but was unsuccessful, until the prisoner came to his house on the 3rd August.

Cross-examined by Mr. Morgan, who appeared on behalf of the prisoner:— On the 22nd July witness enclosed the two notes with other money in an envelope, which he took himself to his brother at Stone, and gave them to him at about eleven in the forenoon. He received them back again on the evening of the 23rd, and after that made enquiries where the prisoner was to be found. It was about one o’clock on the afternoon of the 3rd August, when the prisoner came to his house, and after he had spoken to Darnell, the latter said, "I understand from Mr. Body that you say you took two notes from me at Appledore fair, which are supposed to be forged?" He added that he had come on purpose to see about it, exclaiming "Here I am; if you say the notes are forged, why not give me in custody at once?" Witness replied "I don’t know yet that they are forged, but they won’t cash them at the Rye bank." Prisoner said "If you want me at any time, I’ll write you a note in a day or two as to where I am." He also said he would come again in a day or two. He did return on the following Friday. Witness had never said that he took them from a man named Guest.

Robert Overy, of Stone, out of business, deposed to receiving the notes from his brother on the morning of the 22nd July last, and taking them on the following day with other money to the Rye bank, where he gave them to Mr. Bellingham, in the presence of Mr. Vidler. The notes were not out of his possession from the time he received them, until he gave them to Mr. Bellingham.

John Chapell Midler, clerk in the Rye bank, stated that on the 3rd July the last witness went to the bank, and paid the two notes produced to Mr. Bellingham, who handed them to witness, and he returned them to John Luck Overy in the evening the same day. About the 3rd August the same notes were brought back to be sent to the Bank of England to ascertain whether they were forgeries. They were returned in a few days branded "forged," and witness then enclosed them to John L. Overy in a letter.

James Barton, inspector of Bank notes in the Bank of England, proved that he had examined the notes produced, and both were forgeries; no notes were issued from the bank bearing date the same day as those in question.

Marcirus Seccombe Rigg, superintendent of police, stated that having received the two notes produced from Mr. J. Overy on the 12th inst., he apprehended the prisoner the same afternoon. He read the warrant to him, when he denied the charge. On the following day (the 13th inst.,) he took the prisoner before a magistrate, for the purpose of being remanded, but no evidence was at that time taken against him, and he was cautioned by the magistrates not to say anything then. Witness heard him say "I was not in Overy’s house the whole of that day."

John Springett, saddler, who lives opposite the "Red Lion" at Appledore, was called by Mr. Overy over into his taproom on the 3rd inst., where he saw the prisoner. Mr. Overy said, "This is the man I took the notes of." Prisoner denied it, and said he had never changed a note at the fair, nor had he one in his possession at the time. He had bought a horse there, but had to borrow the money of his brother-in-law to pay for it. Heard Mr. Overy ask him how he spelt his name, and saw the name written on the back of the notes.

John Butcher stated that at last Appledore fair, on the. 27th June, he was called in to assist the constables. Was in the "Red Lion from" six until half-past seven in the evening. Saw the prisoner standing by the bar, where he received some change from Mr. J. L. Overy. He also observed what appeared to be a Bank of England note blown out ot the prisoner's hand down the passage, when some person picked it up and gave it to the prisoner, who put it in his pocket. The prisoner had other papers in his hand. Witness had previously known the prisoner and was certain he is the same man.

David Munn, of Appledore, shoemaker, stated that at last Applodore fair he assisted Mr. Overy as waiter, and saw the prisoner in Mr. Overy’s house twice that day. The last time was about three o’clock in the afternoon.

The prisoner, who declined to say anything in his defence, was then committed for trial, but bail for his appearance was taken, himself in 200 and two sureties in 100 each.

 

From the Maidstone Journal and Kentish Advertiser, Tuesday 2 December 1862.

Appledore. Root and fruit show.

On Thursday last the annual show took place in a marquee in front of the "Lion Inn." The show was said to be inferior, both in respect of quality and quantity of the things exhibited, to that of last year, and still more behind previous shows. As a whole, however, the exhibition was a credible one to the producers, and if nothing very extraordinary was shown, there was nothing but what was deserving of commendation. An unfavourable season prevented the roots from being what they would have been; nevertheless the wurtzel exhibited was very fine. There were also some remarkable large specimens in the fruit class. Of the flavour of the desert fruits the company had an opportunity of judging after dinner, as it was all served up. The dinner was served by Mr. Parkes's best style. A. Cock, Esq., provided, and T. Walker, Esq., occupied the vice-chair; and among the company were the Rev. T. N. Bourke, (Appledore), Rev. H. B. Heyward (Sandgate), Messrs., P. P. Pollard., (sec), B. Ames, H. Riddell, Pearson, B. Brown, Bus (Appledore), T. Elliott (Playden), J. Catt (Rye), W. Smith (Woodchurch), Jacob Kingsnorth (Appledore), Wickes (Woodchurch), B. Garnham (Tenterden), C. Avery (Rolvenden), J. G. Terry "Wittersham), T. Body (Wittersham), C. Dunster (Appledore), Fullager (Woodchurch), &c., &c. A number of toasts were drunk, and a very pleasant evening spent.

 

From the Dover Express, Friday 9 May 1930.

Dover man charged with passing bad coin.

On Saturday at Ashford Police Court, before Sir Charles Igglesden. Henry Leslie Smith (30), 8, Castle Hill Road, Dover, was charged with uttering a counterfeit coin, reported to be a florin, to Nellie Bean, at Appledore, with intent to defraud, well-knowing the same to be counterfeit.

Police Sergeant W. Marshall, of Appledore, said that at 2 p.m. the previous day he received certain information as a result of which he went to the "Red Lion Inn," Appledore, where he saw the accused. He told him he was a police officer and asked whether the accused had purchased a packet of cigarettes at the Appledore Bakery. Accuse replied, "I did." Witness asked what money he tended in payment, and the accused said he offered a two shilling piece. Having cautioned him, witness showed the two shillings (produce,) and the accused said, "If I passed it, I was unaware that it was a bad one." There was a glass of beer standing on the counter, and witness asked whether it was the accused. He replied "It is." Witness ask what money he tendered for it, and he replied, "A two shilling piece." In the accused's presence, witnessed asked the landlady to place the days takings on the counter. This she did, there being five two shilling pieces. Witness through the accused's attention to the one (produced) and Smith said, "That may have been the one and, if so, I was not aware it was a bad one. Witness took him to the Ashford police station, and at 7:45 p.m., after enquiries had been made, charged him with the offence. Accused replied, "I do not wish to say anything."

Sir Charles pointed out that one of the "coins" had notches on it, and witness explained that these were aware witness had tested the coin with his teeth.

Sir Charles:- You must have pretty strong teeth!

Upon this evidence, superintendent F. J. Pattenden asked for a remand until Friday next. This was granted, the hearing being fixed for 10 a.m.

Asked whether he wish to apply for bail, the accused said that he did not know anyone who would stand security. He was there upon remanded in custody.

 

From Barclay, Perkin's Anchor Magazine. Volume XIII, No.9 September 1933. Kindly sent by Rory Kehoe.

THE RED LION AT APPLEDORE.

Red Lion 1933

This house, like the "World's Wonder" at Warehorne, both belonging to Messrs. Style & Winch Ltd., on the border of Romney Marsh, has recently been reconstructed and modernised. Our photograph shows the very striking improvements in the appearance of the news house compared with the old. The same applies to the "World's Wonder."

A third house, the "Carpenter's Arms" at Hadlow, has also been rebuilt but no picture of this is given as the new building is the same design as the "World's Wonder" and is furnished and fitted with equal regard to modern comforts.

The Surveyor's Department, at Medway Brewery, under Mr P G Searles, LRIBA, is responsible for the design and supervision of the erection of the three houses.

The photo captions read...

BEFORE RECONSTRUCTION...

Red Lion new build

AND AFTER.

 

LICENSEE LIST

PACKHAM William 1806-07+

BOON William 1828+ Pigot's Directory 1828-29

SNOAD William 1832+ Pigot's Directory 1832-34

DUNSTER Ann 1841+ (age 50 in 1841Census)

RIDDLES Thomas to Mar/1853

OVERY John Luck Mr Mar/1853+

FOWLE Walter to 1859

PARKS Esau 1861+ (age 63 in 1861Census) (Lion Inn)

WOOD William 1871+ (age 33 in 1871Census)

NEVE Walter 1874-76+

NOAKES William 1881-1911+ (widower age 79 in 1911Census) Kelly's 1903

HARVEY Harry Mark 1922+ Post Office Directory 1922

HOLLENSBEE Henry J 1930+ Post Office Directory 1930

NOAKES Clifton W 1938+ Post Office Directory 1938

KAY Lance & Veronica 1969+

https://pubwiki.co.uk/RedLion.shtml

 

Pigot's Directory 1828-29From the Pigot's Directory 1828-29

Pigot's Directory 1832-34From the Pigot's Directory 1832-33-34

Kelly's 1903From the Kelly's Directory 1903

Post Office Directory 1922From the Post Office Directory 1922

Post Office Directory 1930From the Post Office Directory 1930

Post Office Directory 1938From the Post Office Directory 1938

CensusCensus

 

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