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Sort file:- Northfleet, March, 2023.

Page Updated:- Sunday, 19 March, 2023.

PUB LIST PUBLIC HOUSES Paul Skelton

Earliest ????

Edinburgh Castle

Closed 2021

6 (126) High Street

Northfleet

01474 533893

https://whatpub.com/edinburgh-castle

Edinburgh Castle

Above photo, date unknown. Kindly supplied by John Hopperton.

Edinburgh Castle 2022

Above Google image 2022.

Edinburgh Castle sign 1992

Above sign, September 1992.

With thanks from Brian Curtis www.innsignsociety.com.

Edinburgh Castle sign 2019Edinburgh Castle sign 2019

Above signs, 2019, kindly taken and sent by Tom Duff.

 

Chatham News, Friday 10 February 1939.

A "COLD WEATHER" DRINK.

An unsuccessful application was made by Mr. M. V. Mackey, an behalf of Mr. William Sargent, for a full "on" licence for the "Edinburgh Castle," High-street, Northfleet. Mr. Mackey maintained that there were no other licensed premises within half a mile radius, and that the house was in the centre of the town. A good deal of trade came from the new Bevan's Works.

Stressing the need for the wine licence, Mr. Mackey said. "In cold weather people don't drink so much beer—they prefer wine I am told that gin-and-lime is a very good drink for keeping warm—some people drink it for slimming."

Mr. Macley explained that when visiting darts teams came to the house, many players brought their wives, who were very disappointed when they found there was no wine.

The licensee (Mr. Sargent) said. "Yes, darts is becoming very popular with the ladies now."

Mr. T. Church (opposing):- Is it not a fact that the "India Arms" are nearer to Bevan's Works than your house?

Mr. Sargent:- Yes, it is too near—the men might be seen!

Opposing on behalf of three other houses, Mr. H. Tuffee claimed that trade in that part of Northfleet was going down.

The application was refused.

 

From the https://www.kentonline.co.uk  By Alex Langridge, 5 January 2023.

Edinburgh Castle pub in Northfleet High Street could become flats as planning application submitted to Gravesham council.

Plans to convert a vacant pub into flats have been submitted after a struggle to find new owners to take over the boozer.

Edinburgh Castle, in Northfleet High Street, closed more than two years ago after hitting financial trouble and bosses decided it was no longer viable to keep it running.

The planning statement said the pub was closed "due to economic necessity" after a "change in economic and social circumstances" and it has "proved difficult to sell or let as a going concern".

As a result, the applicant has submitted plans to convert former pub – on the corner of Lawn Road – into three one bedroom flats and three one bedroom studios.

The removal of the pub fašade on the ground floor is proposed to make way and plans include additional windows, doors and Juliet balconies on the first and second floors.

The extension to the rear of the building is also set to be demolished, if approval is given.

Each flat could include a kitchen, bedroom and bathroom which will all have windows and some will be glazed for privacy.

Edinburgh Castle plan 2022

What the front of the former pub could look like. Picture: GBC / H Channa.

There is also considerations on a rooftop garden for residents however concerns have already been raised concerning a nearby school which could be seen from the top.

The applicants claim changing the former public house to residential use will not have an adverse impact on the local economy or community.

A decision on the plans submitted to Gravesham Borough Council is expected by March 1.

In 2008, there was a dispute over the patch of land behind the Edinburgh Castle which was being sold at auction by the local authority.

It was rented by then landlord Clive Selves to be used as a pub garden and despite offering double the asking price, it was still put up for sale.

A rare air raid warden post from the Second World War was also part of the land.

Edinburgh Castle plan

What the back of the building could look like. Picture: GBC / H Channa.

 

From the https://www.kentonline.co.uk By Alex Langridge, 15 March 2023.

Flats plan for Edinburgh Castle pub in Northfleet High Street approved.

Plans to convert a vacant pub into flats have been given the green light by council officers.

A revised application was submitted to Gravesham council earlier this year to convert the Edinburgh Castle, in Northfleet High Street, into six, one-bedroom apartments.

Each flat will include a kitchen, bedroom and bathroom and the extension to the rear of the building is also set to be demolished.

The removal of the pub fašade on the ground floor will make way for changes such as additional windows, doors and Juliet balconies on the first and second floors.

A public consultation was held on the application and two objections were raised. Other comments surrounded parking and road access and the need for pubs over flats.

According to the planning statement, the former boozer closed more than two years ago after hitting financial trouble and bosses decided it was no longer viable to keep it running.

However, Clive Selves – who was landlord there for 32 years – disputed that information, saying it was open longer than that and business was buzzing.

Council officers addressed this in their report and although they acknowledged the site may have been used until June 2021 said the "void period would not impact the decision-making process as this is not registered as an asset of community value."

The report added: "The site is currently falling into disrepair and has been broken into from the rear of the property."

Similar plans for the Edinburgh Castle were refused in September but officers said the new, revised application had addressed their previous concerns relating to the chimneys and look of the building.

The report concluded: "On balance a positive outcome is beneficial when considering that the building will be brought back into use as opposed to falling into disrepair as it currently is."

Permission has been granted subject to planning conditions.

In 2008, there was a dispute over the patch of land behind the public house – on the corner of Lawn Road – which was being sold at auction by the local authority.

It was rented by Mr Selves to be used as a pub garden and, despite him offering double the asking price, it was still put up for sale.

 

LICENSEE LIST

FIELD Robert 1871+ (also carman age 44 in 1871Census)

CRISP Shepherd Stedman 1872+ (Owner)

THOMPSON Henry John William 1872+

SCOTT Arthur B 1881+ (age 25 in 1881Census)

OSBORN George 1891+ (age 48 in 1891Census)

COX Charles H 1901-11+ (age 23 in 1901Census)

STEPHENSON Thomas 1913-22+

SARGENT William1930-39+ Chatham News

SELVES Clive 2008+

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